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PumpkinCoach
12/12/17 9:24:23 PM
#101:


I'm still in the tank for Yang Jiwon, but yeah, I can see that. I also fully expect NC.A, and probably Euijin to overtake her at some point since the rankings right now are mostly based on early hype. Same with Timoteo.

And yeah, Mixnine. Maaan, Suran really has in for Eyedi for some reason. Plus having no practice segment at all for 2 girl dance teams, and like half of one for the third was some bullshit. Actually both shows have been abandoning the girl group side to an extent, which is unfortunate. Hopefully they readjust now that there are less people to handle.

The contrast between the shows remain more interesting than the shows themselves. I haven't seen Mixnine's elimination, but The Unit handled it very differently from the Produce 101 style. I have some thoughts, which I'll have to lay out some time.
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PumpkinCoach
12/12/17 9:47:34 PM
#102:


oh yeah, and some good news is that Happyface pulled Dreamcatcher out of Mixnine to focus on other activities like their European tour.

I feel for the final group on Mixnine. They're going to be milked for all their worth on a proposed world tour, while the show would have done nothing for them. The groups with small followings, and the hype trainees from better survival shows are basically doing charity on this show.
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paerarru
12/13/17 10:13:44 PM
#103:


Watched The Unit.

Shrug. I don't know what to say, it's just the name of the game. I can't believe Eunji dropped 8 spots and got eliminated. Sorry for Saebyeol man, if she hadn't dropped and there was no immunity she would have been 45th. Also don't want Soya gone, what the hell. Also shouldn't be getting eliminated. And yeah those are my three biggest disappointments. And Lena broke my heart at the end. Well, what a tearjerker all around. Yeah The Unit is really going for the most humane survival show award. What's with all the Rain though. I mean I don't mind him but, just weird. Good episode though.

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Hopefully they readjust now that there are less people to handle.

Yeah, again just par for the course.

oh yeah, and some good news is that Happyface pulled Dreamcatcher out of Mixnine to focus on other activities like their European tour.

Nod. That is good news, I guess, I mean for how much screen they were getting. Apparently they were planning on doing it all along, or at least that's the story now. I found this little gem of a comment:

"Thank God they left. Being stuck in YGs dungeon is the worst of all horror concepts they could try."

The groups with small followings, and the hype trainees from better survival shows are basically doing charity on this show.

The show is terrible but the thing is I love the contestants. You know what's funny, I was watching ep. 6 right and I go oooh I really like this girl, so pretty, she looks like Elris Bella. Hahahahaha... smh. Talk about way too many people to keep track of. I also actually enjoyed a lot of the boys performances. To be honest I didn't pay them much attention on The Unit, I mean again after 7 episodes I still only recognize maybe a dozen of them, but Mess9 I enjoyed. Maybe it was the competition aspect with the girls. Huh, it got me.
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PumpkinCoach
12/14/17 4:49:17 AM
#104:


Aw man. Subin, Serri, and Ahyoung left Happyface. They're saying Dal Shabet will not disband, but really come on.

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For The Unit, at least Semmi was saved (though barely) and Haena had immunity, or it could have been worse for Matilda. Hate to see Sejun and Chaesol go as well, even if it was mostly expected based on their rank. Also, it has to sting for Han Seoin to be eliminated on the same episode where they showed she won the vocal position battle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phtvvvWry2o

how can the voters go so wrong.

Elimination episode was an interesting one. Rain managed to give two pep talks, and even some one-on-one counselling with him or Jo Hyuna. If this was a show for trainees, someone might say they were being coddled, let alone a show for debuted idols, but that's very much in keeping with the tone of the show. If Produce 101/Mixnine are like previews of the harshness of the industry at large, The Unit almost feels like a respite from it. Again, I like the comforting atmosphere, but it does push the competition aspect of it to the back. I see some fans worrying about the flagging ratings, and the lack of drama and competitiveness is often cited. There might be something to that, though personally, I think it being more humane gives it a unique identity, which is important given how many survival shows there have been lately. I think perfomances are letting it down moreso than the rest of the show, but more on that later.

Focusing on the rankings, the lack of competitiveness was especially acute this episode. Produce 101 makes it a ceremony, with guest hosts and grand entrances. On The Unit, everyone's sat in a small auditorium in casual clothes rather than their MV uniforms. Again, it's consistent with the show's general approach, but Produce 101 understands that elimination episodes are as much about feeding the voting viewer's egos as about the trainees themselves. It's why they make such a big deal out of it, and why they end on bowing to the "national producers". The Unit, in contrast, is a bit insular. People give speeches but it's addressed to the room rather than out to the nation. Rain doesn't even announce the vote count, and there's no build-up for the audience's benefit. Twice now Rain has offered condoloscenes by saying that you can never predict who will become big and the person eliminated here can end up more popular in the future, which is sound life advice, but maybe not the best way to hype up the show.

paerarru posted...
You know what's funny, I was watching ep. 6 right and I go oooh I really like this girl, so pretty, she looks like Elris Bella. Hahahahaha... smh.

Ha yeah, this happened to me a few times. The lack of stage names throws me.

Mixnine's elimination episode was all over the place. Sometimes it felt like it was being shown at fast forward, other times YG is asking two people the exact same question so they can give the exact same stock answer about how they hope all of them passed. They spliced in a bunch of audition clips, sometimes right before a contestant is eliminated. It was like, "this person you've never seen before is out, but oh, this is the sad backstory for why you should care".

I was a bit reductive when I said the show would have done nothing for them. For an unknown trainee it's still some recognition, and in general there's the opportunity to work with and learn from their peers and the trainers which is nice. Mostly, I'm focused on Lee Soomin, so for her it's like she came in with a lot of hype, and has disappeared into getting no screen time on a show with 0% viewer ratings, while the show benefits from having her hardcore fanbase on the hook. And of course, for a group like Dreamcatcher, they're losing money by stalling their promotions for Mixnine, and it's unlikely to pay off for them if they stayed.
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GTN
12/15/17 2:04:00 PM
#106:


i need 3 more cards d: where are the boosters

or i can sell them for $1.40 each assuming people want to buy them!
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PumpkinCoach
12/15/17 7:53:33 PM
#107:


Yeonjung - Marry You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_TR-otjamc


Long:D, Doyeon - All Night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR9U3-As8eA


i miss doyeonjung
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paerarru
12/16/17 4:07:26 PM
#108:


PumpkinCoach posted...
Aw man. Subin, Serri, and Ahyoung left Happyface. They're saying Dal Shabet will not disband, but really come on.

:'( Well, the girls hung in there as much as they could, I think.

Watched M9 elims. Sori rise! And Soomin, wooo, I wasn't expecting her to turn out that strong. Survival veteran, big respect! :p

They spliced in a bunch of audition clips, sometimes right before a contestant is eliminated. It was like, "this person you've never seen before is out, but oh, this is the sad backstory for why you should care".

Mmm is it just me or have you noticed that it's changed in tone a little bit? I think because of the ratings they decided to, I don't know how to put it, I'd say soften up but hey this was still the biggest slaughter in the history of survival shows. But it seems to me like they're backpedaling in some ways, I don't know like suddenly focusing more on the trainees story, etc. And yeah, sometimes it's too fast, other times it drags. Like you said there's some schizo editing going on for sure.

I was a bit reductive when I said the show would have done nothing for them. For an unknown trainee it's still some recognition, and in general there's the opportunity to work with and learn from their peers and the trainers which is nice.

Sure, depending on how busy (and productive!) you can be somewhere else or not, it's not a complete waste of time at all. The girls are just there as more of a pretty little sideshow for the boys, anyways. I mean that's just becoming more and more clear, if they're going to rank them together then there won't even be any need to choose between them at the end. By the time the final episode rolls around I doubt there will even be 9 girls left.
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double_oh
12/16/17 4:54:16 PM
#109:


I got into Dal Shabet late. Shame about the news, but the were always one of those groups that couldn't just quite break out. Oh, well. Woohee on IG is all I need anyways.
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PumpkinCoach
12/16/17 6:38:58 PM
#110:


Dal Shabet had a good run. They were consistently the girl group fodder line - if someone were to order relevant girl groups by popularity, they'd be at the bottom, but at least they'd always be listed.

best Dal Shabet song (BBB is a close second):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMj0HkksUtU


paerarru posted...
Mmm is it just me or have you noticed that it's changed in tone a little bit?

I feel like YG is trying to re-habilitate his image a bit, but that's that's about it. I wasn't fond of the Yongchae edit, where they talked about her negative image, then showed a bunch of clips which weren't bad, but can be construed as such if primed for it. It was one example of her confidence and two examples of voicing something unpopular for the benefit of the team.

also - https://twitter.com/ultkmj/status/940601763027042304

they need keep her around as long as possible.

paerarru posted...
By the time the final episode rolls around I doubt there will even be 9 girls left.

Right? I'm guessing they'll change the elimination method at some point to even the odds, but it'd also be funny if the finals were Top 9 boys vs. Ryujin and Soomin.
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12/18/17 2:02:50 AM
#111:


skimming topic, saw discussion on paige/del rio and then "video of the incident" and my mind instantly thought not again. glad they were unrelated posts
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Menji
12/18/17 10:47:45 AM
#113:


Wow very sad. RIP.
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PumpkinCoach
12/18/17 12:11:03 PM
#114:


damn

RIP
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paerarru
12/18/17 2:05:38 PM
#115:


I think about the members the most, what they must be feeling. Let alone his family...

RIP
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12/19/17 2:01:44 PM
#116:


im not too big on it right now, but i hope it gets better.
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12/20/17 2:02:50 PM
#117:


random thought: i completely forgot my desktop wallpaper was the chester united background till just now, i never use my desktop/never change the background
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12/21/17 2:02:51 PM
#118:


hi
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12/22/17 2:01:42 PM
#119:


nakamura/tj perkins
bray wyatt
kane
braun strowman
styles/ambrose/orton
luke harper

john cena vs goldberg
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PumpkinCoach
12/22/17 8:51:45 PM
#120:


the unit and mixnine are both much better post-elimination. i have no idea why they went with such a high number of contestants to begin with.
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double_oh
12/23/17 2:17:00 PM
#121:


PumpkinCoach posted...
the unit and mixnine are both much better post-elimination. i have no idea why they went with such a high number of contestants to begin with.


Casting a wide net. More contestants = more chances one becomes a "star" among the viewers.
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PumpkinCoach
12/23/17 2:31:07 PM
#122:


the net is still wide! both shows are now down to numbers around what produce 101 started with, and i really think having more than that becomes detrimental.
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double_oh
12/23/17 8:02:04 PM
#123:


Oh, wow. Had no idea. Never got into these shows. That's crazy to see.
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PumpkinCoach
12/23/17 11:27:08 PM
#124:


i've seen entirely too many, especially considering the first produce 101 is the only truly good one.
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12/25/17 2:00:33 AM
#125:


cant go on gamefaqs cant go on twitter cant go on facebook cant go youtube

spoilers everywhere for summerslam/big brother
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12/26/17 2:00:33 AM
#126:


ulti, remember when you said you would be more aware of this? please be more aware of this.

especially on rusev day.
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12/27/17 2:01:40 AM
#127:


read as student orgy

either way it will be worth it!
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Snrkiko
12/27/17 8:38:39 PM
#128:


younha younha younha younha younha
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Snrkiko
12/27/17 9:45:10 PM
#129:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvKCVJWi0tU


listen
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12/29/17 2:00:32 AM
#130:


i havent been following, what are we voting for (what is gsj? i assume cbii is character battle 2)
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12/30/17 2:01:41 AM
#131:


<a href="/community/korayashi">@korayashi</a> <a href="/community/i_like_beards">@i_like_beards</a>
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double_oh
12/30/17 2:41:59 AM
#132:


wtf.
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PumpkinCoach
12/30/17 4:02:05 PM
#133:


oh that's just the bump bot.

so i'm kinda not feeling the new younha album.
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PumpkinCoach
12/30/17 9:08:10 PM
#134:


omg lee soomin, kim sihyun, eyedi, and hayoon on a song produced by ilhoon?

this is a dream.
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PumpkinCoach
12/30/17 10:40:40 PM
#135:


i missed the gayos

Blackpink - So Hot (Blacklabel Remix)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csCCdQLqcVY


what have they done to so hot
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01/01/18 2:02:50 AM
#136:


i'm a filthy casual!
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PumpkinCoach
01/01/18 12:26:32 PM
#138:


i still need to make mine. i was trying to cut it down earlier, and it just ended up longer.
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double_oh
01/01/18 10:43:58 PM
#139:


So, KBS possibly getting back into action. Some staff has returned to work, pending the removal of the network's president (I think). Failure to have him removed by the end of the month will result in continued striking (active employees returning to strike).
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PumpkinCoach
01/01/18 11:50:49 PM
#140:


solidarity with the workers
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PumpkinCoach
01/02/18 2:59:23 AM
#141:


PumpkinCoach posted...
i still need to make mine. i was trying to cut it down earlier, and it just ended up longer.

update: there are now 117 songs on my shortlist.
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PumpkinCoach
01/02/18 3:09:38 AM
#142:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7IpXmqdFSw


this should totally be on there, but there's no studio version :(

going to feel so mixed if they give this to fromis.
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PumpkinCoach
01/02/18 2:31:10 PM
#144:


shortlist makes it sound more rigorous than it actually is. it's just an unorganized playlist i've updated over the year when i remember to, sometimes on a whim, and then a bunch of songs thrown in recently. the top 30 or so was in order at one point, but about 30 songs have been added since.
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PumpkinCoach
01/03/18 10:40:39 AM
#145:


Momoland - Bboom Bboom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQGRg8XBnB4


s. tiger's still got it
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01/04/18 2:02:56 PM
#146:


nk
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PumpkinCoach
01/04/18 3:32:12 PM
#147:


PumpkinCoach posted...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQMNWubVwAAzr98.jpg
https://twitter.com/cubeunited/status/937607840088260608

omg yes ;_; it's a start at least.

now watch them cancel it later...

hey guess what
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Menji
01/05/18 11:36:44 PM
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PumpkinCoach
01/06/18 10:10:27 PM
#150:


man, whatever happened to that december comeback for luna
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