Current Events > College professor: Algebra and geometry perpetuate white privilege

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In today's example of college stupidity:

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10005

A math education professor at the University of Illinois argued in a newly published book that algebraic and geometry skills perpetuate unearned privilege among whites.

Rochelle Gutierrez, a professor at the University of Illinois, made the claim in a new anthology for math teachers, arguing that teachers must be aware of the politics that mathematics brings in society.

On many levels, mathematics itself operates as Whiteness. Who gets credit for doing and developing mathematics, who is capable in mathematics, and who is seen as part of the mathematical community is generally viewed as White, Gutierrez argued.

Gutierrez also worries that algebra and geometry perpetuate privilege, fretting that curricula emphasizing terms like Pythagorean theorem and pi perpetuate a perception that mathematics was largely developed by Greeks and other Europeans."

Math also helps actively perpetuate white privilege too, since the way our economy places a premium on math skills gives math a form of unearned privilege for math professors, who are disproportionately white.

Are we really that smart just because we do mathematics? she asks, further wondering why math professors get more research grants than social studies or English professors.

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Wasn't Algebra created by ancient Muslims?

gafemaqs posted...

Wasn't Algebra created by Muslims?

Came in to post this.
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That's cool

Republican Senate nominee: Gay marriage ruling "even worse" than pro-slavery decision

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Hey, an Admiral race-baiting topic, it has been a while
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That professor is fucking stupid

gafemaqs posted...

Wasn't Algebra created by Muslims?

No, but they did contribute to it.
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Samurontai posted...

I'm deflecting

Yes, we can see that. There is already a topic on that issue, feel free to use that one.
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Samurontai posted...

That's cool

Republican Senate nominee: Gay marriage ruling "even worse" than pro-slavery decision

The deflection is strong with this one.

The Admiral posted...

https://www.campusreform.org

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Isn't this old news? Could have sworn this argument and discussion have been brought up here before
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Man, what a dumb thing this person said. Some people sure are dumb.
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I refuse to believe this is real, this has to be satire.

Samurontai posted...

That's cool

Republican Senate nominee: Gay marriage ruling "even worse" than pro-slavery decision

LOL this dude is shook
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The Admiral posted...

Samurontai posted...

I'm deflecting

Yes, we can see that. There is already a topic on that issue, feel free to use that one.

Not deflecting, pointing out that you get triggered by the tiniest things

NathanX95 posted...

Samurontai posted...

That's cool

Republican Senate nominee: Gay marriage ruling "even worse" than pro-slavery decision

The deflection is strong with this one.

"Idk what deflecting is"
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Numbers arent racist.
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Prestoff posted...

That professor is fucking stupid

gafemaqs posted...

Wasn't Algebra created by Muslims?

No, but they did contribute to it.

Afaik, it's an ongoing debate on who to attribute the birth of modern algebra to: a greek or a Persian.
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Stay the fuck out of my STEM. You can bitch all you want about whiteness and privilege in subjects that can afford that level of stupidity, but when you weaken the rigors of STEM, people die. I don't want my structural engineer or medical doctor learning about how their skin color makes them bad people. I want them to learn how to build a bridge and perform surgery without killing people.
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And once again it is revealed that the majority of professors are liberal psychopaths. This guy needs to be fired for publishing that garbage racist trash.

voldothegr8 posted...

I refuse to believe this is real, this has to be satire.

Samurontai posted...

That's cool

Republican Senate nominee: Gay marriage ruling "even worse" than pro-slavery decision

LOL this dude is shook

Ye, kinda like how you're shook everytime I post in one of your topics lmao
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COVxy posted...

The Admiral posted...

https://www.campusreform.org

Ah, the hard hitting opinions of campus reform. I can't believe Admiral was the first to make this topic, considering the widespread circulation and popularity of the source, and how hot opinions of professors from the university of Illinois are right now.

Just kidding, literally a non-story about an opinion of an unknown shared by Admiral in a design to cause arguments about race
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Is that a Triggernometry class?

Are we really that smart just because we do mathematics? she asks, further wondering why math professors get more research grants than social studies or English professors.

oh so that's what this is all about
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Also, it's probably not satire considering stuff like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9SiRNibD14

davyheinz posted...

Numbers arent racist.

Actual racism is getting harder and harder to find these days. But the demand for racism to be outraged over is growing rapidly from the left, so they're reaching deeper into their collective ass to find examples.
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The Admiral posted...

Gutierrez also worries that algebra and geometry perpetuate privilege, fretting that curricula emphasizing terms like Pythagorean theorem and pi perpetuate a perception that mathematics was largely developed by Greeks and other Europeans."

There is a debate on this. I was introduced to it after reading "Mathematics for the Nonmathematician" which primarily serves as a light history of math text. The book is decades old but some criticism of it is the author's love affair with Europeans while downplaying Egyptians (pretty much calling them simpletons, I posted a screenshot of the text in cechat once), Middle Easterners, and the Chinese
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

Also, it's probably not satire considering stuff like this:

Definitely not satire. There is severe insecurity among social science academia, mostly likely because many of them know they've dedicated their life to peddling nonsense while their academic peers in STEM fields are making meaningful and substantive contributions to the world. Was only a matter of time before someone articulated stupidity like this.

This is sadly not the first professor to make these kinds of comments, either.
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The Admiral posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Also, it's probably not satire considering stuff like this:

Definitely not satire. There is severe insecurity among social science academia, mostly likely because many of them know they've dedicated their life to peddling nonsense while their academic peers in STEM fields are making meaningful and substantive contributions to the world. Was only a matter of time before someone articulated stupidity like this.

This is sadly not the first professor to make these kinds of comments, either.

That explains a lot, actually. I mean, imagine putting so much time and effort and money into building up a framework of lunacy and nonsense, and then realizing that your framework doesn't actually solve any problems in reality.

The Admiral posted...

Gutierrez also worries that algebra and geometry perpetuate privilege, fretting that curricula emphasizing terms like Pythagorean theorem and pi perpetuate a perception that mathematics was largely developed by Greeks and other Europeans."

That's because it was.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

The Admiral posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Also, it's probably not satire considering stuff like this:

Definitely not satire. There is severe insecurity among social science academia, mostly likely because many of them know they've dedicated their life to peddling nonsense while their academic peers in STEM fields are making meaningful and substantive contributions to the world. Was only a matter of time before someone articulated stupidity like this.

This is sadly not the first professor to make these kinds of comments, either.

That explains a lot, actually. I mean, imagine putting so much time and effort and money into building up a framework of lunacy and nonsense, and then realizing that your framework doesn't actually solve any problems in reality.

And that's how we get feminist glaciology:
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0309132515623368
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s0nicfan posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

The Admiral posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Also, it's probably not satire considering stuff like this:

Definitely not satire. There is severe insecurity among social science academia, mostly likely because many of them know they've dedicated their life to peddling nonsense while their academic peers in STEM fields are making meaningful and substantive contributions to the world. Was only a matter of time before someone articulated stupidity like this.

This is sadly not the first professor to make these kinds of comments, either.

That explains a lot, actually. I mean, imagine putting so much time and effort and money into building up a framework of lunacy and nonsense, and then realizing that your framework doesn't actually solve any problems in reality.

And that's how we get feminist glaciology:
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0309132515623368

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HAHAHAHAHAHA

XHJYFL posted...

That's because it was

Do you have any more insight or are you just being an armchair expert right now
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any race of person can abuse the knowledge that two points can be connected to make a line
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The Admiral posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Also, it's probably not satire considering stuff like this:

Definitely not satire. There is severe insecurity among social science academia, mostly likely because many of them know they've dedicated their life to peddling nonsense while their academic peers in STEM fields are making meaningful and substantive contributions to the world. Was only a matter of time before someone articulated stupidity like this.

This is sadly not the first professor to make these kinds of comments, either.

If they realize they've been peddling nonsense than why do they continue peddling nonsense? What's stopping them from going "wow I fucked up" and going to an actual important STEM field?
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only a white man would come up with a shape as stupid as a parallelogram. a parallelogram is a shape that is borne out of concepts of privilege and unequal power structures.

a PoC (Person of Color) mathematician would historically have create da shape that is practical and necessary due to their diminished social stance in the world, such as a rectangle or triangle - powerful, sturdy shapes. Their shapes are created not out of curiosity but out of necessity, and unfortunately the reality is that we cannot achieve significant progress by focusing just on necessity.

A white (or white-presenting) mathematician, on the other hand, is able to create a shape such as a parallelogram, a shape with no real-world application and no foundation in reality. No building will ever be a parallelogram, no city designed in those dimensions. It is a shape entire constructed to take advantage of decades of oppression and prejudice.

If we were to deduce the area of a parallelogram, it would be something like this:

Area = (Power) (Privilege)

Every time I see a parallelogram, I feel sick to my stomach as I see yet another attempt of the white man to enforce his imperialistic tendencies over yet another field.
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XHJYFL posted...

The Admiral posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Also, it's probably not satire considering stuff like this:

Definitely not satire. There is severe insecurity among social science academia, mostly likely because many of them know they've dedicated their life to peddling nonsense while their academic peers in STEM fields are making meaningful and substantive contributions to the world. Was only a matter of time before someone articulated stupidity like this.

This is sadly not the first professor to make these kinds of comments, either.

If they realize they've been peddling nonsense than why do they continue peddling nonsense? What's stopping them from going "wow I fucked up" and going to an actual important STEM field?

They've invested so many years and so much money into their useless PhDs that they're unemployable, so they continue to prop up that framework.

gafemaqs posted...

Wasn't Algebra created by ancient Muslims?

No. Indians did (as in South Asian Indians). The original Al-Gebra text was mostly copied from Indian sources with a few additions.

This is fake news because I'm white and I stopped giving a fuck about math when it started inconveniencing me. The only thing geometry is good for is the fact that they call a shape "rhombus" which is just a silly and whimsical name and it tickles my funny bone.
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I'm not sure I understand the point she's trying to get across, but then again I'm only reading a couple of paragraphs about it on the internet so I think it would be kind of stupid for me to outright dismiss the entire book
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Samurontai posted...

Not deflecting

Next you'll argue that water isn't wet
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lol
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XHJYFL posted...

The Admiral posted...

Gutierrez also worries that algebra and geometry perpetuate privilege, fretting that curricula emphasizing terms like Pythagorean theorem and pi perpetuate a perception that mathematics was largely developed by Greeks and other Europeans."

That's because it was.

Indians contributed a lot to the development of math.

Math professor should stay within his field of math instead of talking out of his ass on a subject outside of his expertise.
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Romulox28 posted...

only a white man would come up with a shape as stupid as a parallelogram. a parallelogram is a shape that is borne out of concepts of privilege and unequal power structures.

a PoC (Person of Color) mathematician would historically have create da shape that is practical and necessary due to their diminished social stance in the world, such as a rectangle or triangle - powerful, sturdy shapes. Their shapes are created not out of curiosity but out of necessity, and unfortunately the reality is that we cannot achieve significant progress by focusing just on necessity.

A white (or white-presenting) mathematician, on the other hand, is able to create a shape such as a parallelogram, a shape with no real-world application and no foundation in reality. No building will ever be a parallelogram, no city designed in those dimensions. It is a shape entire constructed to take advantage of decades of oppression and prejudice.

If we were to deduce the area of a parallelogram, it would be something like this:

Area = (Power) (Privilege)

Every time I see a parallelogram, I feel sick to my stomach as I see yet another attempt of the white man to enforce his imperialistic tendencies over yet another field.

lmao
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She has been doing this shit since 2014 apparently

https://theeducatorsroom.com/mathematics-political-post-session-rochelle-gutierrez/
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Bloodychess posted...

Samurontai posted...

Not deflecting

Next you'll argue that water isn't wet

Nope, that'd be an inconsequential argument and that's something that your side is notorious for doing, not me

<:^)

I bet you'd argue water wasn't wet if a liberal claimed it was though tbf
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I wonder how much force and depth is required to pull something like this out of someones ass. I refuse to believe that any brainpower was involved.
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somethingtofear posted...

I wonder how much force and depth is required to pull something like this out of someones ass. I refuse to believe that any brainpower was involved.

The SJW arena has become like the Super Mario Brothers speedrunning community. It's so hard and competitive to keep one-upping other previous record holders that in order to get attention, you need to be really creative with your stupidity nowadays.

And surely this will end well for society.
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Well I'm sure this is the full story. Say what you will about Admiral, but his topics are always fair to both sides.

The Admiral, why did you tell me you're not alt-right or supremacist the other day? Just curious. I mean you clearly are.

XHJYFL posted...

The Admiral posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Also, it's probably not satire considering stuff like this:

Definitely not satire. There is severe insecurity among social science academia, mostly likely because many of them know they've dedicated their life to peddling nonsense while their academic peers in STEM fields are making meaningful and substantive contributions to the world. Was only a matter of time before someone articulated stupidity like this.

This is sadly not the first professor to make these kinds of comments, either.

If they realize they've been peddling nonsense than why do they continue peddling nonsense? What's stopping them from going "wow I fucked up" and going to an actual important STEM field?

cause STEM is too hard
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yeah, whoever is trying to say math is racist is beyond a buffoon and shouldn't be taken seriously
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