Current Events > British MP and ex diplomat says returning Isis fighters should be killed.

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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/killing-british-jihadists-is-only-option-says-rory-stewart-hf3bwhxc3

What do you think?

Personally, I'm of the belief that people who willingly choose to go join such a vile barbaric organisation can't be reintegrated into society. Those who think they can, need their heads examined for defects.

I don't see a problem with killing them tbh.
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No problem with me. You join ISIS, youre an enemy of the state.
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Death to all terrorists, even if they joined ISIS just to be a receptionist or something. This is one of the few scenarios where zero tolerance policies are preferred. Even if they posted on facebook that they are very sorry for abandoning america and want to come home.
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Sorry, you dun goofed. buh bye.
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Fuck those terrorists.
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Kill them all
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The Admiral posted...

No problem with me. You join ISIS, youre an enemy of the state.

St0rmFury posted...

Fuck those terrorists.

Yep, and yep.

I can't see anything good coming from any of them being allowed to reenter the state they left.
If they do manage to circumvent the state and illegally enter, they should be shot for treason.
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well they should at the very least be tried for crimes against humanity. Don't just let them come back like nothing happened.
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fire810 posted...

well they should at the very least be tried for crimes against humanity. Don't just let them come back like nothing happened.

Tried and exectuted.

We tried Nazis at Nuremberg for similar levels of shittery. Then we hung them.
So, let's treat these barbarians exactly the same.
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We should at least make them fight each other or something
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Seems a pointless statement given death penalty is outlawed here
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eston posted...

We should at least make them fight each other or something

A jihadi hunger games would be something I'd PPV
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it'd be like killing soldiers who surrender, pretty barbaric
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AffligemFR posted...

Tried and exectuted.

Yeah, FUCK THE LAW!!!

Funkydog posted...

Seems a pointless statement given death penalty is outlawed here

Have the trials held abroad and then carry it out (the execution).
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JE19426 posted...

AffligemFR posted...

Tried and exectuted.

Yeah, FUCK THE LAW!!!

Do you not know what tried means?
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mortimerjames posted...

it'd be like killing soldiers who surrender, pretty barbaric

What about the low rank war crime Nazis who had surrendered? Pretty sure they still got hung like they deserved.
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eston posted...

Do you not know what tried means?

Yes, it doesn't mean we can do whatever we want to them.

The Admiral posted...

No problem with me. You join ISIS, youre an enemy of the state.

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AffligemFR posted...

Funkydog posted...

Seems a pointless statement given death penalty is outlawed here

Have the trials held abroad and then carry it out (the execution).

While anyone who joins up with ISIS or any other terrorist group is utter scum and deserve to be killed and forgotten, allowing the government to legally kill those it deems a terrorist seems a step to allowing them the right to kill people again. They just need to strip them of their citizenship and claim they have terrorist leanings.
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What if they're lying and have a plan to bomb some place? Keep them out tbh
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mortimerjames posted...

it'd be like killing soldiers who surrender, pretty barbaric

Bro.... It's Isis..... really?
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Funkydog posted...

AffligemFR posted...

Funkydog posted...

Seems a pointless statement given death penalty is outlawed here

Have the trials held abroad and then carry it out (the execution).

While anyone who joins up with ISIS or any other terrorist group is utter scum and deserve to be killed and forgotten, allowing the government to legally kill those it deems a terrorist seems a step to allowing them the right to kill people again. They just need to strip them of their citizenship and claim they have terrorist leanings.

They'd still be a problem somewhere else.
Stamp their lives out and forget they ever existed. Flush their remains out into sea.
I'd be happy to have a government discretionary mandate to do this abroad.
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They choose their path. Time for them to accept the consequences.
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AffligemFR posted...

They'd still be a problem somewhere else.
Stamp their lives out and forget they ever existed. Flush their remains out into sea.
I'd be happy to have a government discretionary mandate to do this abroad.

I've no issue if they are killed while fighting them. Heck, I support them being killed this way.

But once they've surrendered, I'm less certain is all. Giving our government more control over who has rights or not in these matters just makes me uncomfortable as they already are able to waive enough rights of people they merely suspect are terrorists.
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AffligemFR posted...

mortimerjames posted...

it'd be like killing soldiers who surrender, pretty barbaric

What about the low rank war crime Nazis who had surrendered? Pretty sure they still got hung like they deserved.

What about the Germans who were a member of the Nazi party, but never commited any crimes? What happened to them?
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It's a hard thing allowing them to come back because if you put them in jail then can radicalized the prison population.

Thompson posted...

What about the Germans who were a member of the Nazi party, but never commited any crimes? What happened to them?

They were investigated and then released.

I say we hunger games it with groups of 100 at a time on an island (pubg style), then have 100 winners do the same thing and so on and so forth until theres only one left, and we promise him freedom.

But then we hang him by his balls.
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Funkydog posted...

AffligemFR posted...

They'd still be a problem somewhere else.
Stamp their lives out and forget they ever existed. Flush their remains out into sea.
I'd be happy to have a government discretionary mandate to do this abroad.

I've no issue if they are killed while fighting them. Heck, I support them being killed this way.

But once they've surrendered, I'm less certain is all. Giving our government more control over who has rights or not in these matters just makes me uncomfortable as they already are able to waive enough rights of people they merely suspect are terrorists.

The government isn't waiving away anyone's rights on a mere shaky suspicion of being terrorist affiliated.

These are terribly evil, misguided and nihilistic animals. Guilty of crimes and deeds that make you sick just thinking about.
These are not humans worthy of continued existence. If this is so abundantly obvious, whether they die in combat or by a hangmans noose is surely irrelevant.
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Tekutso posted...

I say we hunger games it with groups of 100 at a time on an island (pubg style), then have 100 winners do the same thing and so on and so forth until theres only one left, and we promise him freedom.

But then we hang him by his balls.

Sounds like the sort of thing ISIS would do themselves, tbh.

If we do kill them, we should at least do it humanely. No need to become like ISIS themselves when dealing with them.
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AffligemFR posted...

The government isn't waiving away anyone's rights on a mere shaky suspicion of being terrorist affiliated.

These are terribly evil, misguided and nihilistic animals. Guilty of crimes and deeds that make you sick just thinking about.
These are not humans worthy of continued existence. If this is so abundantly obvious, whether they die in combat or by a hangmans noose is surely irrelevant.

They are monsters, are surely deserve to die, I agree. I would have no issue if the local governments in the area they are fighting had them executed and would hope whatever government they claimed citizenship to before wouldn't intervene. I'm just torn on letting our own governments execute it owns citizens, even if by means of revoking citizenship, given death penalty is outlawed entirely here.
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Thompson posted...

AffligemFR posted...

mortimerjames posted...

it'd be like killing soldiers who surrender, pretty barbaric

What about the low rank war crime Nazis who had surrendered? Pretty sure they still got hung like they deserved.

What about the Germans who were a member of the Nazi party, but never commited any crimes? What happened to them?

Um some of those Germans didn't have a choice. Westerners who leave the west to go fight for Isis ARE making a choice.
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Extradite them to a country that will execute and let them do it. The Iraqis would love to try and hang ISIS members.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Extradite them to a country that will execute and let them do it. The Iraqis would love to try and hang ISIS members.

Doesn't have to be Iraq, but yeah sure.
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mortimerjames posted...

it'd be like killing soldiers who surrender, pretty barbaric

While terrorists are enemy combatants, they are definitely not equivalant to soldiers fighting for their country. Lmao @ holding soldiers and terrorists in the same regard
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Funkydog posted...

Tekutso posted...

I say we hunger games it with groups of 100 at a time on an island (pubg style), then have 100 winners do the same thing and so on and so forth until theres only one left, and we promise him freedom.

But then we hang him by his balls.

Sounds like the sort of thing ISIS would do themselves, tbh.

If we do kill them, we should at least do it humanely. No need to become like ISIS themselves when dealing with them.

Weak af
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passports should be destroyed and citizen ship revoked
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Throw them off a roof. Wrap their corpses in Isis flags. Burn them. Film it. Send it to Isis populated areas as propaganda.
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You know ISIS is bad when a diplomat is like "yeah, just fucking kill em"
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AffligemFR posted...

fire810 posted...

well they should at the very least be tried for crimes against humanity. Don't just let them come back like nothing happened.

Tried and exectuted.

We tried Nazis at Nuremberg for similar levels of shittery. Then we hung them.
So, let's treat these barbarians exactly the same.

Eh, tbf we pardoned all those Japanese scientists who literally turned captured POWs into live experiments, performing vivisections on them and everything. Even though we did it for the research, it's still kinda lame to use the whole Nazi thing as an excuse.

That being said, the only way I'd be for an Isis fighter coming back alive is if they were to become an informant if some sort, and were put under strict supervision
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Aw come on guys. You wouldn't want some "rehabilitated" ex-Isis member who used to behead infidels, stone gay people, and burn people alive to be your neighbor? What are you bigots or something? /s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPVyvSoInGM
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AffligemFR posted...

The Admiral posted...

No problem with me. You join ISIS, youre an enemy of the state.

St0rmFury posted...

Fuck those terrorists.

Yep, and yep.

I can't see anything good coming from any of them being allowed to reenter the state they left.
If they do manage to circumvent the state and illegally enter, they should be shot for treason.

Wait till you hear about the kind of shit Sweden and other parts of Europe are doing to help the returning terrorists.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/231707
http://www.eurasiareview.com/30062017-sweden-gives-returning-isis-fighters-new-identities-to-help-them-start-over/
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Give them a fair trial and punishment, cause that's what civilized people do
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you guys have an unhealthy lust for blood, makes you wonder

are you really any that different from the returning isis fighters?
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AllTheFoxIGive posted...

AffligemFR posted...

The Admiral posted...

No problem with me. You join ISIS, youre an enemy of the state.

St0rmFury posted...

Fuck those terrorists.

Yep, and yep.

I can't see anything good coming from any of them being allowed to reenter the state they left.
If they do manage to circumvent the state and illegally enter, they should be shot for treason.

Wait till you hear about the kind of shit Sweden and other parts of Europe are doing to help the returning terrorists.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/231707
http://www.eurasiareview.com/30062017-sweden-gives-returning-isis-fighters-new-identities-to-help-them-start-over/

What the fuck

In America if you sexually harass someone you need to go door-to-door to tell people nearby that you're a sex offender, and in Sweden you can be complicit in the rape and murder of dozens of women and they'll try to hide it from everybody on your behalf

Fucking psychotic
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mortimerjames posted...

you guys have an unhealthy lust for blood, makes you wonder

are you really any that different from the returning isis fighters?

Yes, for the obvious reason that none of us commit terrorism.

What a stupid question.
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We didn't execute every Loyalist after the Revolutionary war.

We didn't execute every Nazi after WWII

We shouldn't just go killing anyone who was apart of ISIS after they're defeated either.

Some of the fighters were young teenagers when they were recruited and made a terrible decision based on being fed misinformation by people who specialize in radicalizing young kids. They're not completely blameless, and they should be punished for their actions, but killing them is not the way to go.
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justaguy3492 posted...

We didn't execute every Nazi after WWII

No but just about every captured concentration camp officer was put on trial and most were executed
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