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Antifar
10/20/17 5:46:44 PM
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https://theintercept.com/2017/10/20/brooklyn-teen-police-rape-consent/

ON SEPTEMBER 28, attorney Michael David filed notice of a claim against the New York Police Department, the City of New York, and two unnamed police officers, referred to as John and Jim Doe. These plainclothes cops, alleged the claim, brutally sexually assaulted and raped his 18-year-old female client. David told me that within a day, he needed to amend the claim: The officers had been identified by police in the press as Brooklyn South narcotics detectives Richard Hall and Edward Martins.

What was strange, said David, was that within only two or three hours of me filing, there was a story leaked to the New York Post saying that the detectives were claiming that the sex they had with my client in custody was consensual. They hadnt even been named yet. The attorney told me that he believes the police were trying to get ahead of the story.

At a time of elevated public awareness about police violence and sexual assault, these detectives apparent defensive tack raises troubling questions about the way cops approach these national plagues. Let us be clear: Someone in police custody cannot give consent, in any meaningful sense of the word, to the officer holding them.

laiming to have received consent, whether it is based in any truth or not, betrays a policing culture that refuses to recognize its own outsized power over those it alleges to protect and serve. The Brooklyn District Attorneys Office is currently investigating the case to determine whether the claim of consent is credible under law, but the fact that consent seems to be on offer as a defense at all speaks to how the police themselves view rape a dynamic that needs immediate redress.

The accusations against Hall and Martins detail brutal rape in no uncertain terms. The young woman, who goes by the name Anna Chambers on social media but is withholding her legal name, says that on September 15, she and two male friends were driving near Brighton Beach. They were pulled over by the undercover detectives for being in a park after closing time, and their car was searched. The police found drugs in a bag next to Chambers; one friend was also found with pills on his person. The cops handcuffed only Chambers and drove her away in an unmarked van.

The teen alleges that the police drove to a nearby Chipotle parking lot and then, while she remained handcuffed, forced her to perform oral sex on them. One officer, she said, then raped her before leaving her on a street corner near the 60th Precinct. According to her attorney, she went to a hospital that night and was given a rape kit. Law enforcement sources told the New York Post that DNA found on Chambers matched the two officers, a fact confirmed by the teens attorney.

Im so hurt by this situation, Chambers told me via Twitter direct message, before referring me to her lawyer. David said, Shes devastated, She doesnt leave home, shes extremely depressed, and has been victimized again by these cops saying it was consensual. He added, This was a kidnapping, and this was rape.

An NYPD spokesperson said on Wednesday that both officers have been suspended and that the Internal Affairs Bureau is working with the district attorney in the ongoing investigation. The New York Post reported Wednesday evening that a grand jury has been convened to hear evidence against the two officers. The detectives should have been arrested that night, said David.

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itachi15243
10/20/17 5:52:13 PM
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How the fuck do you possibly give consent when handcuffed and taken away by two men who have a major position of authority over you?
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FrozenXylophone
10/20/17 5:52:33 PM
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put them in jail
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Antifar
10/20/17 5:53:08 PM
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itachi15243 posted...
How the fuck do you possibly give consent when handcuffed and taken away by two men who have a major position of authority over you?

This is a very good question.
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MC_BatCommander
10/20/17 5:54:41 PM
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Even if she consented, it is still grossly inappropriate and unprofessional to have sex with someone in custody and they should still be fired.
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1NfamousACE_2
10/20/17 5:55:26 PM
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And they let her go?

Hahaha, fire these guys and put them in jail
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FrozenXylophone
10/20/17 5:56:26 PM
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...
And they let her go?


the probably told her to comply and let them rape her and they would let her go

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Axiom
10/20/17 5:56:29 PM
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Antifar posted...
Claiming to have received consent, whether it is based in any truth or not, betrays a policing culture that refuses to recognize its own outsized power over those it alleges to protect and serve.

Truth. Fuck these cops
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MacDaMurderer
10/20/17 5:59:33 PM
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How many cops covering for these fuck boys
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1NfamousACE_2
10/20/17 6:01:23 PM
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This is why Kaepernick kneeled!
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SmidgeIsntBack
10/20/17 6:02:23 PM
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MacDaMurderer posted...
How many cops covering for these fuck boys


How many fuck boys in this topic will cover for these cops
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TommyG663513
10/20/17 6:03:26 PM
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MacDaMurderer posted...
How many cops covering for these fuck boys


This. More than two cops need to be fired and spending time in jail over this.
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Ammonitida
10/20/17 6:07:59 PM
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MacDaMurderer posted...
How many cops covering for these fuck boys

None.
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A_Good_Boy
10/20/17 6:11:35 PM
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...
This is why Kaepernick kneeled!

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Coolppl Owns
10/20/17 6:12:45 PM
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pigs
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LordMarshal
10/20/17 6:13:00 PM
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No one cares. Thats the problem.
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Ammonitida
10/20/17 6:17:04 PM
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...
This is why Kaepernick kneeled!


The woman in this case is white.
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A_Good_Boy
10/20/17 6:18:45 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
This is why Kaepernick kneeled!


The woman in this case is white.

And?
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GOOMFalse
10/20/17 6:19:34 PM
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Gross
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Ammonitida
10/20/17 6:22:10 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Ammonitida posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
This is why Kaepernick kneeled!


The woman in this case is white.

And?


He kneeled for "racial injustice".
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A_Good_Boy
10/20/17 6:23:02 PM
#22:


Ammonitida posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Ammonitida posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
This is why Kaepernick kneeled!


The woman in this case is white.

And?


He kneeled for "racial injustice".

And?
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MacDaMurderer
10/20/17 6:25:21 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Ammonitida posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
This is why Kaepernick kneeled!


The woman in this case is white.

And?


He kneeled for "racial injustice".


And police brutality. Is this not police brutality?
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E32005
10/20/17 6:27:27 PM
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itachi15243 posted...
How the fuck do you possibly give consent when handcuffed and taken away by two men who have a major position of authority over you?

You cant

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Ammonitida
10/20/17 6:28:02 PM
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MacDaMurderer posted...
Ammonitida posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Ammonitida posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
This is why Kaepernick kneeled!


The woman in this case is white.

And?


He kneeled for "racial injustice".


And police brutality. Is this not police brutality?


Police brutality IS the racial injustice.
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Bishop9800
10/20/17 6:30:02 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
This is why Kaepernick kneeled!


The woman in this case is white.


And?
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megamanfreakXD
10/20/17 6:32:30 PM
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I wish I could do that and get a paid vacarion
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Kitt
10/20/17 6:33:05 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Ammonitida posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
This is why Kaepernick kneeled!


The woman in this case is white.

And?

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Kitt
10/20/17 6:34:15 PM
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megamanfreakXD posted...

Wat...
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CruelBuffalo
10/20/17 6:34:26 PM
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She cannot consent, but why do they keep saying teen when the person is 18? Was she under 18 during the rape?
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1NfamousACE_2
10/20/17 6:35:25 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
She cannot consent, but why do they keep saying teen when the person is 18?


Eighteen
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Funbazooka
10/20/17 6:35:32 PM
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How do we know it wasn't her offer to give them sex and let her go? Wouldn't surprise me in the least bit.

Doesn't excuse their actions. They're still crooked cops obviously, if they're allowing criminals to give them something so they won't be arrested.
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CruelBuffalo
10/20/17 6:35:50 PM
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
She cannot consent, but why do they keep saying teen when the person is 18?


Eighteen


Which is legally an a-dult
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Makeveli_lives
10/20/17 6:36:02 PM
#34:


MacDaMurderer posted...
Ammonitida posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Ammonitida posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
This is why Kaepernick kneeled!


The woman in this case is white.

And?


He kneeled for "racial injustice".


And police brutality. Is this not police brutality?

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Pitlord_Special
10/20/17 6:37:13 PM
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The NYPD is called the biggest gang in New York for a reason
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Nundulan
10/20/17 6:38:03 PM
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Coolppl Owns posted...
pigs

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Funbazooka
10/20/17 6:38:04 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
She cannot consent, but why do they keep saying teen when the person is 18?


Eighteen


Which is legally an a-dult

Ever notice how 18 yr old males are almost always referred to as adults or men in the media? Double-standard for women.
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CruelBuffalo
10/20/17 6:38:57 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
She cannot consent, but why do they keep saying teen when the person is 18?


Eighteen


Which is legally an a-dult

Ever notice how 18 yr old males are almost always referred to as adults or men in the media? Double-standard for women.


Well I mean this is a lawyer trying to make it sound as awful as possible. If it was a male who was raped Im sure he would have said the same thing.
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megamanfreakXD
10/20/17 6:39:35 PM
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MC_BatCommander
10/20/17 6:40:17 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
She cannot consent, but why do they keep saying teen when the person is 18?


Eighteen


Which is legally an a-dult

Ever notice how 18 yr old males are almost always referred to as adults or men in the media? Double-standard for women.


idk man, after the Mike Brown shooting I seem to recall lots of "white officer shoots black teen"
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iron jojo
10/20/17 6:41:10 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
Even if she consented, it is still grossly inappropriate and unprofessional to have sex with someone in custody and they should still be fired.

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KiwiTerraRizing
10/20/17 6:41:31 PM
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So the police are literally fucking people now.
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gamepimp12
10/20/17 6:41:57 PM
#43:


Funbazooka posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
She cannot consent, but why do they keep saying teen when the person is 18?


Eighteen


Which is legally an a-dult

Ever notice how 18 yr old males are almost always referred to as adults or men in the media? Double-standard for women.


18 minority men
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Prestoff
10/20/17 6:44:09 PM
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Consent or not, you don't have sex with someone under your arrest in handcuffs.
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eston
10/20/17 6:45:58 PM
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They didn't even try to make it look like a legit arrest at all. They literally picked her up for the sole purpose of raping her
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Bishop9800
10/20/17 7:11:40 PM
#46:


Remember folks, this is just a "isolated incident".
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1NfamousACE_2
10/20/17 7:26:14 PM
#47:


Bishop9800 posted...
Remember folks, this is just a "isolated incident".


and I'm sure these cops were outstanding individuals with great service records.
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E32005
10/20/17 7:31:03 PM
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
Remember folks, this is just a "isolated incident".


and I'm sure these cops were outstanding individuals with great service records.

guys, guys, there are bad people on BOTH sides!
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The Catgirl Fondler
10/20/17 7:31:23 PM
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Pigs gonna oink.
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untrustful
10/20/17 7:43:26 PM
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Blue Lives Matter when they don't generate a corrupt environment where this is allowed to happen. There must've been witnesses to this that kept their mouths shut because guys like these have sway over the department.
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