Current Events > So is transgenderism a social or biological construct?

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This isn't about if it's right or wrong, good or bad. I personally believe you should do whatever the fuck (if you are above a certain age), but I don't want this topic to be about that.

I always understood it to be a biological thing. You have the opposite genders brain in the wrong body.

But many of the things you do in transition is to mimick social cues.

For example, a Make to female trans starts wearing skirts, wears makeup, high heels, goes shopping, played with Barbie's, etc. The thing is, these are social constructs.

What if hundreds of years ago men were decided to wear makeup and skirts? Would m2f consist of them doing these things?

I hear transgirls say stuff like "I knew when I was trans because I perfered playing with dolls and doing my makeup instead of soccer and videogames". However what is female about makeup and dolls? These aren't inherently female.

Thoughts?
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What if hundreds of years ago men were decided to wear makeup and skirts?

Rome.
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The real answer is we don't know yet. A reasonable conjecture in my opinion is a little bit of both.

I really dislike this modern notion that something being of a social construct makes it any less real or concrete. These things are often two way streets in that the way human beings socially organize will impact brain development and vice versa.
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i think its biological. ive seen enough transgeder MtF and their facial structures are similar.
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I would say it's both, and for some people the pendulum probably swings more toward one than the other
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Biological. It's in the brain.

I mean, I don't wear dresses or play with dolls or anything. I'm a casual person. Sure, I do happen to like makeup but I mean cmon.
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It can be either one depending on what SJWs need it to be at that particular moment for whatever argument they're trying to make.
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For me it was mainly a social issue. I always thought of myself as a woman, and it distressed me greatly to not be treated as such socially, so much so that I became a self-loathing recluse for over 15 years. This has been basically entirely alleviated in the last few years since I no longer get treated as a male.

This is not to say that there weren't physical components, but they weren't what caused me to hate life. I do greatly prefer my body and life the way it is now.

MachoManSavage posted...

What if hundreds of years ago men were decided to wear makeup and skirts? Would m2f consist of them doing these things?

I also see that you don't even know history regarding those. Women weren't given anything more complex than a loincloth for most of history, all garments such as skirts and such were designed for men and worn by them. Pants weren't even a thing for much of history, their design and creation was a massive waste of time, money and effort for all but the richest to afford.

Makeup was used pretty unevenly at first as well, often as warpaint for most of history for men at first.
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just because someone wears makeup and/or dresses in feminine attire (i.e. dresses/skirts), it doesn't mean that they identify as female.

and transgender people have existed all throughout history, so idk if it's just a social construct
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Biological.
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