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TrevorBlack79 10/15/17 7:46:31 PM #158:	Ippa555 posted... -Gavirulax- posted... Ippa555 posted... All Muslims either want to kill gay people or side with people who do. My own relatives who are indeed still very much Muslim beg to differ, several of which attended my very gay ceremony. You're either intentionally dishonest or even more bigoted than the people you're raging against. Your relatives fall in the category of "siding with people who do". If you don't want to be associated with the group, then leave the group. It's that simple. I, too, remember when I was 12 and everything was black and white. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:888500339] in Just FYI: ... [t:75881331]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ippa555 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>-Gavirulax- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ippa555 posted...</cite> <quote>All Muslims either want to kill gay people or side with people who do.</quote> My own relatives who are indeed still very much Muslim beg to differ, several of which attended my very gay ceremony. You're either intentionally dishonest or even more bigoted than the people you're raging against.</quote> Your relatives fall in the category of "siding with people who do". If you don't want to be associated with the group, then leave the group. It's that simple.</quote> I, too, remember when I was 12 and everything was black and white.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 10/15/17 7:47:17 PM #159:	Ippa555 posted... -Gavirulax- posted... The ideology is absolute, the people aren't. Saying you hate all Muslims (or that others should hate all Muslims) is an extremely ignorant thing to say. While I have made many points against my own family for why Islam is a s*ty religion, I'm certainly not going to hate them for being Muslim (the few that still are). And they don't hate me for being gay either, hence the people not being robots. By your fatuous logic, I should hate them because I'm gay - maybe in a simple world where all humans follow an ideology to the letter, but not in any actual intellectual discussion. The ideology is absolute, the people aren't. Saying you hate all Nazis (or that others should hate all Nazis) is an extremely ignorant thing to say. While I have made many points against my own family for why Nazism is a sty idealogy, I'm certainly not going to hate them for being Nazis (the few that still are). And they don't hate me for being Jewish either, hence the people not being robots. By your fatuous logic, I should hate them because I'm Jewish - maybe in a simple world where all humans follow an ideology to the letter, but not in any actual intellectual discussion. Islam =/= Nazism --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:888500380] in Just FYI: ... [t:75881331]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ippa555 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>-Gavirulax- posted...</cite> <quote>The ideology is absolute, the people aren't. Saying you hate all Muslims (or that others should hate all Muslims) is an extremely ignorant thing to say. While I have made many points against my own family for why Islam is a sty religion, I'm certainly not going to hate them for being Muslim (the few that still are). And they don't hate me for being gay either, hence the people not being robots. By your fatuous logic, I should hate them because I'm gay - maybe in a simple world where all humans follow an ideology to the letter, but not in any actual intellectual discussion.</quote> The ideology is absolute, the people aren't. Saying you hate all Nazis (or that others should hate all Nazis) is an extremely ignorant thing to say. While I have made many points against my own family for why Nazism is a s*ty idealogy, I'm certainly not going to hate them for being Nazis (the few that still are). And they don't hate me for being Jewish either, hence the people not being robots. By your fatuous logic, I should hate them because I'm Jewish - maybe in a simple world where all humans follow an ideology to the letter, but not in any actual intellectual discussion.</quote> Islam =/= Nazism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ippa555 10/15/17 7:47:48 PM #160:	averagejoel posted... Islam =/= Nazism You're right. It's actually much worse. The significant majority of Muslims worldwide are racist, sexist, and homophobic. LGBT are slaughtered like animals, women are treated as slaves, and children are raped in EVERY SINGLE Muslim majority country on the planet. --- i5-3450 @ 3.1GHz, 250GB SSD, 8 GB RAM, GeForce GTX 950 + PS4 + XB1 + Wii U <cite>Ippa555 posted [p:888500412] in Just FYI: ... [t:75881331]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>Islam =/= Nazism </quote> You're right. It's actually much worse. The significant majority of Muslims worldwide are racist, sexist, and homophobic. LGBT are slaughtered like animals, women are treated as slaves, and children are raped in EVERY SINGLE Muslim majority country on the planet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 10/15/17 7:48:45 PM #161:	Ippa555 posted... Your relatives fall in the category of "siding with people who do". If you don't want to be associated with the group, then leave the group. It's that simple. Do you legit believe that his family want to see him dead because of his sexuality? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:888500477] in Just FYI: ... [t:75881331]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ippa555 posted...</cite> <quote>Your relatives fall in the category of "siding with people who do". If you don't want to be associated with the group, then leave the group. It's that simple.</quote> Do you legit believe that his family want to see him dead because of his sexuality?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/15/17 7:49:04 PM #162:	Ippa555 posted... -Gavirulax- posted... Ippa555 posted... All Muslims either want to kill gay people or side with people who do. My own relatives who are indeed still very much Muslim beg to differ, several of which attended my very gay ceremony. You're either intentionally dishonest or even more bigoted than the people you're raging against. Your relatives fall in the category of "siding with people who do". If you don't want to be associated with the group, then leave the group. It's that simple. Humans in general are evil and accessories to atrocity by the edgy logic you are displaying in this topic. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:888500489] in Just FYI: ... [t:75881331]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ippa555 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>-Gavirulax- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ippa555 posted...</cite> <quote>All Muslims either want to kill gay people or side with people who do.</quote> My own relatives who are indeed still very much Muslim beg to differ, several of which attended my very gay ceremony. You're either intentionally dishonest or even more bigoted than the people you're raging against.</quote> Your relatives fall in the category of "siding with people who do". If you don't want to be associated with the group, then leave the group. It's that simple.</quote> Humans in general are evil and accessories to atrocity by the edgy logic you are displaying in this topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ippa555 10/15/17 7:50:20 PM #163:	Darmik posted... Do you legit believe that his family want to see him dead because of his sexuality? No, but they are siding with people who do though. Knowingly or not. hockeybub89 posted... Humans in general are evil and accessories to atrocity Yeah pretty much --- i5-3450 @ 3.1GHz, 250GB SSD, 8 GB RAM, GeForce GTX 950 + PS4 + XB1 + Wii U <cite>Ippa555 posted [p:888500559] in Just FYI: ... [t:75881331]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Do you legit believe that his family want to see him dead because of his sexuality? </quote> No, but they are siding with people who do though. Knowingly or not. <cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Humans in general are evil and accessories to atrocity</quote> Yeah pretty much</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 10/15/17 7:50:46 PM #164:	Ippa555 posted... averagejoel posted... Islam =/= Nazism You're right. It's actually much worse. If you ever had any credibility I'd hate to see what's left of it after this one. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:888500577] in Just FYI: ... [t:75881331]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ippa555 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>Islam =/= Nazism </quote> You're right. It's actually much worse. </quote> If you ever had any credibility I'd hate to see what's left of it after this one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 10/15/17 7:51:31 PM #165:	Ippa555 posted... You're right. It's actually much worse. objectively incorrect The significant majority of Muslims worldwide are racist, sexist, and homophobic. LGBT are slaughtered like animals, women are treated as slaves, and children are raped in EVERY SINGLE Muslim majority country on the planet. just for fun: name some Muslim majority countries that haven't been touched by British or American imperialism --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:888500619] in Just FYI: ... [t:75881331]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ippa555 posted...</cite> <quote>You're right. It's actually much worse.</quote> objectively incorrect <quote>The significant majority of Muslims worldwide are racist, sexist, and homophobic. LGBT are slaughtered like animals, women are treated as slaves, and children are raped in EVERY SINGLE Muslim majority country on the planet.</quote> just for fun: name some Muslim majority countries that haven't been touched by British or American imperialism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 10/15/17 7:57:04 PM #169:	Ippa555 posted... averagejoel posted... just for fun: name some Muslim majority countries that haven't been touched by British or American imperialism Excuses excuses. It doesn't change the reality of the situation we are in. and the reality is that the homophobia in Muslim-majority countries can be traced back to colonialism http://scroll.in/article/810093/orlando-shooting-its-different-now-but-muslims-have-a-long-history-of-accepting-homosexuality --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:888500894] in Just FYI: ... [t:75881331]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ippa555 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>just for fun: name some Muslim majority countries that haven't been touched by British or American imperialism </quote> Excuses excuses. It doesn't change the reality of the situation we are in.</quote> and the reality is that the homophobia in Muslim-majority countries can be traced back to colonialism http://scroll.in/article/810093/orlando-shooting-its-different-now-but-muslims-have-a-long-history-of-accepting-homosexuality</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funbazooka 10/15/17 8:16:40 PM #175:	averagejoel posted... Ippa555 posted... averagejoel posted... just for fun: name some Muslim majority countries that haven't been touched by British or American imperialism Excuses excuses. It doesn't change the reality of the situation we are in. and the reality is that the homophobia in Muslim-majority countries can be traced back to colonialism http://scroll.in/article/810093/orlando-shooting-its-different-now-but-muslims-have-a-long-history-of-accepting-homosexuality It traces back to the Quran. <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:888501947] in Just FYI: ... [t:75881331]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ippa555 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>just for fun: name some Muslim majority countries that haven't been touched by British or American imperialism </quote> Excuses excuses. It doesn't change the reality of the situation we are in.</quote> and the reality is that the homophobia in Muslim-majority countries can be traced back to colonialism http://scroll.in/article/810093/orlando-shooting-its-different-now-but-muslims-have-a-long-history-of-accepting-homosexuality</quote> It traces back to the Quran.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 10/15/17 8:23:31 PM #178:	-Gavirulax- posted... Make no mistake, I am no defender of Islam (and likely criticize it a great deal more than you do, accurately as well). But you're not looking for any sort of honest discussion here, you're solely in the business of spreading fallacious nonsense. Because to admit that the religion is in need of a massive reform, something many of the "apologists" are more than willing to acknowledge, means you can't paint people with a broad stroke and enact laws against them. It should be clear to anyone with half a brain that Islam needs to be reformed, but to these type of people that solution takes to long and they want an easy solution, which inevitably comes to a total shutdown of any Muslim anywhere. I don't care how much they deny it, plenty of these people would be more than happy to have a policy immediately deporting any Muslim in the US AND outlawing the religion. There's a reason why whenever theres anything that could slightly be linked they go to that insult first --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:888502314] in Just FYI: ... [t:75881331]...</cite> <quote><cite>-Gavirulax- posted...</cite> <quote>Make no mistake, I am no defender of Islam (and likely criticize it a great deal more than you do, accurately as well). But you're not looking for any sort of honest discussion here, you're solely in the business of spreading fallacious nonsense.</quote> Because to admit that the religion is in need of a massive reform, something many of the "apologists" are more than willing to acknowledge, means you can't paint people with a broad stroke and enact laws against them. It should be clear to anyone with half a brain that Islam needs to be reformed, but to these type of people that solution takes to long and they want an easy solution, which inevitably comes to a total shutdown of any Muslim anywhere. I don't care how much they deny it, plenty of these people would be more than happy to have a policy immediately deporting any Muslim in the US AND outlawing the religion. There's a reason why whenever theres anything that could slightly be linked they go to that insult first</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 10/15/17 8:27:33 PM #179:	shockthemonkey posted... Mal_Fet posted... shockthemonkey posted... Your version of equal rights is everyone is free to discriminate against LGBT people without government interference. Youre openly fine with discrimination against LGBT people. Actually I support the freedom to trade voluntarily in all cases, even if a place won't sell to straight white men. By your logic, I am therefore anti straight white men. Right? So youre pro-everyone and you never have to actually justify it. Lol what do I gotta do to justify it? Shill for aging socialist politicians like you do? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:888502547] in Just FYI: ... [t:75881331]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Your version of equal rights is everyone is free to discriminate against LGBT people without government interference. Youre openly fine with discrimination against LGBT people. </quote> Actually I support the freedom to trade voluntarily in all cases, even if a place won't sell to straight white men. By your logic, I am therefore anti straight white men. Right?</quote> So youre pro-everyone and you never have to actually justify it.</quote> Lol what do I gotta do to justify it? Shill for aging socialist politicians like you do?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 10/15/17 8:46:38 PM #181:	shockthemonkey posted... If the best you have is I dont care what happens to them, Stop right there, bud. Didn't we go over earlier how the public doesn't favor businesses that discriminate? And not only that, but the policies YOU favor actually benefited the Christian bakery in the end. Outrage over the govt's reaction to them not baking a cake netted them double what they lost in the court case from donations all around the country. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/bakery-refused-make-cake-lesbian-couple-raises-record-breaking-donations-n394066 So you see, my solution actually punishes people for discriminating against LGBT people while yours rewards them with sympathy and donations. Yet somehow you're the one who is supposed to be pro-LGBT? Give me a break XD --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:888503519] in Just FYI: ... [t:75881331]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>If the best you have is I dont care what happens to them,</quote> Stop right there, bud. Didn't we go over earlier how the public doesn't favor businesses that discriminate? And not only that, but the policies YOU favor actually benefited the Christian bakery in the end. Outrage over the govt's reaction to them not baking a cake netted them double what they lost in the court case from donations all around the country. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/bakery-refused-make-cake-lesbian-couple-raises-record-breaking-donations-n394066 So you see, my solution actually punishes people for discriminating against LGBT people while yours rewards them with sympathy and donations. Yet somehow you're the one who is supposed to be pro-LGBT? Give me a break XD</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 10/15/17 8:53:13 PM #183:	You're arguing that morons donating to a cause means you're more pro LGBT than someone? Time to log off Mal lol --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:888503864] in Just FYI: ... [t:75881331]...</cite> <quote>You're arguing that morons donating to a cause means you're more pro LGBT than someone? Time to log off Mal lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ippa555 10/15/17 8:59:41 PM #184:	Mal_Fet posted... Stop right there, bud. Didn't we go over earlier how the public doesn't favor businesses that discriminate? So the government should have done nothing during the civil rights era? Just continue to let the majority of businesses discriminate based on race? --- i5-3450 @ 3.1GHz, 250GB SSD, 8 GB RAM, GeForce GTX 950 + PS4 + XB1 + Wii U <cite>Ippa555 posted [p:888504212] in Just FYI: ... [t:75881331]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Stop right there, bud. Didn't we go over earlier how the public doesn't favor businesses that discriminate? </quote> So the government should have done nothing during the civil rights era? Just continue to let the majority of businesses discriminate based on race?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UncleBourbon33 10/15/17 9:09:09 PM #186:	It's just pointing out the hypocrisy of liberals who say they're pro-LGBT but silent on Islam. --- https://i.imgur.com/aqrImUY.gif <cite>UncleBourbon33 posted [p:888504715] in Just FYI: ... [t:75881331]...</cite> <quote>It's just pointing out the hypocrisy of liberals who say they're pro-LGBT but silent on Islam.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 10/15/17 9:16:52 PM #187:	UncleBourbon33 posted... It's just pointing out the hypocrisy of liberals who say they're pro-LGBT but silent on Islam. Not wanting to expel Muslims from the country and outlawing Islam =/= silent on Islam. When will you understand that? --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:888505143] in Just FYI: ... [t:75881331]...</cite> <quote><cite>UncleBourbon33 posted...</cite> <quote>It's just pointing out the hypocrisy of liberals who say they're pro-LGBT but silent on Islam.</quote> Not wanting to expel Muslims from the country and outlawing Islam =/= silent on Islam. When will you understand that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 10/15/17 9:37:05 PM #189:	UncleBourbon33 posted... It's just pointing out the hypocrisy of liberals who say they're pro-LGBT but silent on Islam. What exactly do you want people to say on Islam? That terrorism and Sharia Law are shitty? Only the fringiest of crazy leftists don't view that as a default state of mind. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:888506245] in Just FYI: ... [t:75881331]...</cite> <quote><cite>UncleBourbon33 posted...</cite> <quote>It's just pointing out the hypocrisy of liberals who say they're pro-LGBT but silent on Islam.</quote> What exactly do you want people to say on Islam? That terrorism and Sharia Law are shitty? Only the fringiest of crazy leftists don't view that as a default state of mind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 10/15/17 9:52:30 PM #190:	shockthemonkey posted... So you dont care what happened to LGBT people, You're so dense it's almost sad. Ippa555 posted... So the government should have done nothing during the civil rights era? Most civil rights issues were about removing existing government regulations that treated people differently under the law based on their race, which I'm completely in support of. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:888507081] in Just FYI: ... [t:75881331]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>So you dont care what happened to LGBT people,</quote> You're so dense it's almost sad. <cite>Ippa555 posted...</cite> <quote>So the government should have done nothing during the civil rights era? </quote> Most civil rights issues were about removing existing government regulations that treated people differently under the law based on their race, which I'm completely in support of.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MangaFan462 10/16/17 8:37:54 AM #191:	FYI, siding with Muslims to get at conservatives and moderates is a horrible thing to do. http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/many-killed-in-deadliest-single-attack-in-somalias-history/article19869308.ece --- Posted using GameFlux https://i.imgur.com/Il34cSX.jpg / https://i.redd.it/zwfbqetu2b8y.jpg <cite>MangaFan462 posted [p:888527945] in Just FYI: ... [t:75881331]...</cite> <quote>FYI, siding with Muslims to get at conservatives and moderates is a horrible thing to do. http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/many-killed-in-deadliest-single-attack-in-somalias-history/article19869308.ece</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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