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masticatingman
10/15/17 1:02:57 PM
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Has anyone read about how male-to-female transsexuals in Iran are given government funds to facilitate their gender transitions? It's been a thing for a few decades now...I guess the logic is that it's better to have transsexuals instead of regular gay dudes. Apparently transsexualism is not proscribed in Islam, technically, while homosexuality is. I find this train of thought fairly laughable whatever the case.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transsexuality_in_Iran

If you're a firm believer in Christianity or Judaism, you believe in a religion that is just as against homosexuality as Islam is. Of course, if you're a Christian or Jew, that means you're also indebted to reading a holy book which lashes out at adulterers more than homosexuals.
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hockeybub89
10/15/17 1:08:25 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
Meanwhile, in the lefty topics,

"A gay Catholic?? Paradox!"

Personally I see no reason why LGBT people shouldn't hate and fear a religion that in most parts of the world still regards gay people like the Christians did 200 years ago.

You couldn't help but go straight to Butt Liberals.
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hockeybub89
10/15/17 1:10:15 PM
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The Admiral posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Again, if you use the slaughtering of gay people as a reason to justify not taking in refugees, youre not actually helping anything. Youre not pro-LGBT if you only use them as a political talking point. Theyll continue to be murdered, and sure the idiots will condemn the killings, but those same idiots will oppose actually helping anyone.


Pretty dumb logic. Just because I'm against my neighbor beating his wife, that doesn't mean I have to invite her into my house and let her come live with me. I'd rather that shithead husband simply change his behavior and get his act together, which is the same expectation I have of the oppressive countries in the Middle East.

So no one should take her in and she should hope her husband changes before she dies?
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creativerealms
10/15/17 2:09:13 PM
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Yes what Muslim ran countries do is worse then what happens here. What happens in African Christian countries is also worse then what happens here. So you are not as bad so what?
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Mal_Fet
10/15/17 2:31:06 PM
#108:


creativerealms posted...
Yes what Muslim ran countries do is worse then what happens here. What happens in African Christian countries is also worse then what happens here. So you are not as bad so what?

So nothing.

But isn't it sort of odd how the people who want to punish christian bakers for not baking a cake seem really defensive of an ideology that demands people kill homosexuals, and quite often do?
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CocteauQuintplt
10/15/17 2:33:46 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Too bad most of Islam doesn't meet that standard, huh?

I have no love for Islam, Mal.

I'm just pointing out that hating muslims doesn't make you pro-LGBT. that's all


Mal_Content hates both groups equally, to be fair
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A_Good_Boy
10/15/17 2:34:23 PM
#110:


Mal_Fet posted...
creativerealms posted...
Yes what Muslim ran countries do is worse then what happens here. What happens in African Christian countries is also worse then what happens here. So you are not as bad so what?

So nothing.

But isn't it sort of odd how the people who want to punish christian bakers for not baking a cake seem really defensive of an ideology that demands people kill homosexuals, and quite often do?

I don't see anyone here defending conversion therapy. Where are you getting that from?
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Mal_Fet
10/15/17 2:40:19 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
creativerealms posted...
Yes what Muslim ran countries do is worse then what happens here. What happens in African Christian countries is also worse then what happens here. So you are not as bad so what?

So nothing.

But isn't it sort of odd how the people who want to punish christian bakers for not baking a cake seem really defensive of an ideology that demands people kill homosexuals, and quite often do?

I don't see anyone here defending conversion therapy. Where are you getting that from?

I dunno, where are YOU getting that from? Who said anything about conversion therapy?
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C_Pain
10/15/17 2:42:02 PM
#112:


this is a pure toxic troll topic (a TTT)

just graphs and insults and accusations

mwah
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Mal_Fet
10/15/17 3:05:40 PM
#114:


shockthemonkey posted...
No one is defensive of the ideology used to justify killing gays.

Lol what? Are you serious here?

Just look at the mod reaction to anyone disparaging Islam or Muhammad. I have plenty of screenshots of moderations I've gotten because I dared to criticize them. Not muslims in general, just the religion.

shockthemonkey posted...

You already admitted the OP was spot on in its assessment. You say that the invisible hand will shut down discriminatory businesses (which you know is false) but you think the government needs to regulate what kind of religion is allowed in.

No, discriminatory businesses do get shut down thanks to customer preference against such behavior, and the government can and does regulate what sort of people are allowed in.
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HylianFox
10/15/17 3:14:52 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Just because I'm against my neighbor beating his wife, that doesn't mean I have to invite her into my house and let her come live with me. I'd rather that shithead husband simply change his behavior and get his act together


Which is the wife's fault... how?
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Mal_Fet
10/15/17 3:17:08 PM
#117:


shockthemonkey posted...
Imagine if one day suddenly Mal understood context or figured out how to reply to an entire though instead of just one line.

I don't need to quote every line of your shitpost to respond to all of it.

Being against Islam is inherently pro-LGBT and it's also not the same thing as being against Muslims, yet the usual suspects such as yourself will pretend otherwise because you will defend minority populations even when their ideology doesn't deserve to be defended.
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hortanz
10/15/17 3:28:04 PM
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is this topic worth reading at all or do people just continue attacking islam as if that's equivalent to attacking tc's point instead of proving it
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Mal_Fet
10/15/17 3:37:59 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Imagine if one day suddenly Mal understood context or figured out how to reply to an entire though instead of just one line.

I don't need to quote every line of your shitpost to respond to all of it.

Being against Islam is inherently pro-LGBT and it's also not the same thing as being against Muslims, yet the usual suspects such as yourself will pretend otherwise because you will defend minority populations even when their ideology doesn't deserve to be defended.

Nothing about you is pro-LGBT and youre delusional if you think denying Muslims asylum based on their religion is just being anti-Islam.

Lol I like how you realized your original point is indefensible and are now trying to shift goalposts to the muslim ban that doesn't exist.
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Ippa555
10/15/17 4:19:29 PM
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Hating Muslims doesn't make you pro-LGBT. That said. Pro-LGBT people should hate Muslims.
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BLAKUboy
10/15/17 4:23:39 PM
#123:


hortanz posted...
is this topic worth reading at all or do people just continue attacking islam as if that's equivalent to attacking tc's point instead of proving it

The latter.
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prettyprincess
10/15/17 4:51:13 PM
#124:


C_Pain posted...
this is a pure toxic troll topic (a TTT)

just graphs and insults and accusations

mwah

nobody wanted to admit to reading the chart wrong
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Prestoff
10/15/17 5:05:47 PM
#126:


Ippa555 posted...
Hating Muslims doesn't make you pro-LGBT. That said. Pro-LGBT people should hate Muslims.


I disagree, they shouldn't hate Muslim people but they should have a great disdain for the Islam religion in general, especially its view on Homosexuality.
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Ippa555
10/15/17 5:09:27 PM
#127:


Prestoff posted...
I disagree, they shouldn't hate Muslim people but they should have a great disdain for the Islam religion in general, especially its view on Homosexuality.

Islam by itself wouldn't be a problem without all the Muslims
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Funbazooka
10/15/17 5:16:13 PM
#128:


Why feel ashamed about hating Islamists? Why feel ashamed about opposing backwards religion if and when it's incompatible and a threat towards Western values? There's nothing to feel ashamed about.
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prettyprincess
10/15/17 7:06:35 PM
#134:


Ippa555 posted...
See how stupid that logic is?

I do, but I don't think you did
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Mal_Fet
10/15/17 7:09:11 PM
#136:


shockthemonkey posted...
What in the fuck are you even talking about now? My original point was that TC is right, youre not pro-LGBT at all, and trying to justify yourself as pro-LGBT because youre anti-Muslim is dumb as fuck.

If you stick up for Islam in any capacity that precludes you from being pro-LGBT

Also, in what sense am I not pro LGBT? Because I want everyone to be subject to the same laws?
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Darmik
10/15/17 7:13:29 PM
#137:


Mal_Fet posted...
Also, in what sense am I not pro LGBT? Because I want everyone to be subject to the same laws?


Mal_Fet posted...
_Near_ posted...
I don't trust any of those people who complain about throwing gays of buildings in one breath, and in the next tell me that it's fine for shops open to the public to against gay people.

One of these things is not like the other, one of these things just doesn't belong...

There's no contradiction between thinking a business should have the right to serve whoever they want and thinking it's not ok to kill innocent people.


It's pretty obvious you don't care about gay people being treated equally dude.
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Mal_Fet
10/15/17 7:15:44 PM
#138:


Darmik posted...
It's pretty obvious you don't care about gay people being treated equally dude.

Whatever you need to tell yourself to continue living in the delusion that you're the good guy.
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prettyprincess
10/15/17 7:21:01 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
If you stick up for Islam in any capacity that precludes you from being pro-LGBT

what if you are idk say a gay muslim who would rather see reform on the violent tenets of the religion?
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Mal_Fet
10/15/17 7:23:14 PM
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prettyprincess posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
If you stick up for Islam in any capacity that precludes you from being pro-LGBT

what if you are idk say a gay muslim who would rather see reform on the violent tenets of the religion?

If you want to reform Islam then you have probably accepted that Islam sucks. Why else would you want to reform it?
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Mal_Fet
10/15/17 7:25:10 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
What in the fuck are you even talking about now? My original point was that TC is right, youre not pro-LGBT at all, and trying to justify yourself as pro-LGBT because youre anti-Muslim is dumb as fuck.

If you stick up for Islam in any capacity that precludes you from being pro-LGBT

Also, in what sense am I not pro LGBT? Because I want everyone to be subject to the same laws?

Alright bud lets hear you actually explain how youre pro-LGBT, real curious to see that one

Your sexuality shouldn't affect what rights or entitlements you get, nor should it affect how the law regards you. Same goes for gender and skin color.

How's that
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A_Good_Boy
10/15/17 7:26:43 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
What in the fuck are you even talking about now? My original point was that TC is right, youre not pro-LGBT at all, and trying to justify yourself as pro-LGBT because youre anti-Muslim is dumb as fuck.

If you stick up for Islam in any capacity that precludes you from being pro-LGBT

Also, in what sense am I not pro LGBT? Because I want everyone to be subject to the same laws?

Alright bud lets hear you actually explain how youre pro-LGBT, real curious to see that one

He doesn't want to kill them, and that's about it.
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prettyprincess
10/15/17 7:31:27 PM
#148:


Mal_Fet posted...
Why else would you want to reform it?

wanting to reduce the negative aspects of a thing and enchance the positive aspects of a thing is a universal aspect of perception and the same reason anything is reformed
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Mal_Fet
10/15/17 7:31:42 PM
#149:


shockthemonkey posted...
The best you have is a generic diatribe about how people should be equal? Yeah that definitely offsets years of anti-LGBT shitposting.

Lol, so apparently wanting people to have equal rights is no longer good enough.

Tell me, what exactly am I missing here to be pro-LGBT? Must I also find transwomen sexually attractive?
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Darmik
10/15/17 7:32:42 PM
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Are gay people expected to hate religions and religious people in general too? Seems like a pretty bad outlook to have.
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Ippa555
10/15/17 7:39:37 PM
#152:


-Gavirulax- posted...
Again, your analogy is absolutely terrible and (as I said) intellectually dishonest

Why

-Gavirulax- posted...
I'm curious, would you do the same for Christianity?

Yes
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Darmik
10/15/17 7:40:19 PM
#153:


Ippa555 posted...
All Muslims either want to kill gay people or side with people who do.


Wow.
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Mal_Fet
10/15/17 7:44:39 PM
#156:


shockthemonkey posted...
Your version of equal rights is everyone is free to discriminate against LGBT people without government interference. Youre openly fine with discrimination against LGBT people.

Actually I support the freedom to trade voluntarily in all cases, even if a place won't sell to straight white men. By your logic, I am therefore anti straight white men. Right?
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