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Akagami_Shanks
10/14/17 10:34:56 AM
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10/14/17 10:35:06 AM
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The Admiral
10/14/17 10:36:25 AM
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@Nomadic_View

Who else got warned for saying that her completely unsubstantiated claims that had no evidence might have been false?
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Antifar
10/14/17 10:36:37 AM
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Through a letter from Attorney Karen Koehler on Friday, the accuser asked for the investigation to be halted.

Today she is telling the Auburn Police Department and the King County Prosecutors Office to put a halt to the criminal investigation of Cornell Haynes, Jr. (aka Nelly). She will not testify further in a criminal proceeding against him.

She never wanted notoriety. She never wanted a dime from that man," the statement added.

She wants to go back to school and to graduate. And this she cannot do if she remains hidden in her room, crying her heart out.


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Nepsy
10/14/17 10:37:47 AM
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Typically the accused is guilty until proven innocent, ESPECIALLY for black males.

Glad this time that won't be the case here.
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__aCEr__
10/14/17 10:39:32 AM
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Ya know I never knew what Nelly's real name was.
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thronedfire2
10/14/17 10:40:31 AM
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Antifar posted...
Through a letter from Attorney Karen Koehler on Friday, the accuser asked for the investigation to be halted.

Today she is telling the Auburn Police Department and the King County Prosecutors Office to put a halt to the criminal investigation of Cornell Haynes, Jr. (aka Nelly). She will not testify further in a criminal proceeding against him.

She never wanted notoriety. She never wanted a dime from that man," the statement added.

She wants to go back to school and to graduate. And this she cannot do if she remains hidden in her room, crying her heart out.


hm


So sounds like she was harassed to the point she just wants to be left alone now
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Akagami_Shanks
10/14/17 10:41:29 AM
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we will never know the full truth but obviously this wasn't a very winnable case for her if she dropped it just like that, I don't care what the letter says, people can say anything
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JRaasin
10/14/17 10:46:56 AM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
we will never know the full truth but obviously this wasn't a very winnable case for her if she dropped it just like that, I don't care what the letter says, people can say anything


Wow
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The Admiral
10/14/17 10:50:03 AM
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thronedfire2 posted...
So sounds like she was harassed to the point she just wants to be left alone now


Her name wasn't publicly released. Who was harassing her?
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Nomadic View
10/14/17 11:05:11 AM
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The Admiral posted...
@Nomadic_View

Who else got warned for saying that her completely unsubstantiated claims that had no evidence might have been false?


I dont really know who specifically.
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The Admiral
10/14/17 11:05:57 AM
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Oh, I thought you had been warned. I might be thinking of @glitteringfairy
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pls
10/14/17 11:07:41 AM
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Innocent until proven guilty. Nelly did nothing as far as the law is concerned. Without evidence, we can't say he is guilty.
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Nomadic View
10/14/17 11:07:50 AM
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But it looks like exactly what I got warned for saying is what happened.
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Nomadic View
10/14/17 11:08:22 AM
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The Admiral posted...
Oh, I thought you had been warned. I might be thinking of @glitteringfairy


Yeah, I was warned too. I just dont know who else was warned.
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Nomadic View
10/14/17 11:17:02 AM
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Apparently.
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CruelBuffalo
10/14/17 11:18:29 AM
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Spooking posted...
If you dare question an accuser you get warned here? Wow...

Depends how you question in. Some of you guys need to learn basic etiquette. Shame your parents never taught you. (General you, not you specifically)
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RickyTheBAWSE
10/14/17 11:19:00 AM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
Spooking posted...
If you dare question an accuser you get warned here? Wow...

Depends how you question in. Some of you guys need to learn basic etiquette. Shame your parents never taught you. (General you, not you specifically)

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The Admiral
10/14/17 11:19:05 AM
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If you assumed Nelly raped her based on the zero evidence from the original story, you were fine.

If you doubted that Nelly raped her based on the zero evidence in the original story, you got warned.
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RickyTheBAWSE
10/14/17 11:20:25 AM
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The Admiral posted...
If you assumed Nelly raped her based on the zero evidence from the original story, you were fine.

If you doubted that Nelly raped her based on the zero evidence in the original story, you got warned.


it's never that black and white, and you know it.

way to oversimplify.
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Tezlok
10/14/17 11:51:45 AM
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I wonder if he threatened her family to get her to drop the case
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YourDrunkFather
10/14/17 12:04:38 PM
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Wow. I'm shocked. Really
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hockeybub89
10/14/17 12:07:28 PM
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The Admiral posted...
If you assumed Nelly raped her based on the zero evidence from the original story, you were fine.

If you doubted that Nelly raped her based on the zero evidence in the original story, you got warned.

Both should have been moderated. Though since you are Mr. Statistics, you should be cool with people assuming accusers are truthful given that only a small percentage of rape accusations are fake.
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PepsiWithCoke
10/14/17 12:09:02 PM
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MuscleHamster0
10/14/17 12:09:05 PM
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they'll probably be people breaking TOU in here but mods wont touch em unless I say something insenstive go figure.
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Gunpo
10/14/17 12:22:59 PM
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Tezlok posted...
I wonder if he threatened her family to get her to drop the case

Or maybe paid her a large amount
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glitteringfairy
10/14/17 12:27:18 PM
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No I was warned for it
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glitteringfairy
10/14/17 12:29:17 PM
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https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/573081-hellhole/75875219#10

Even made a topic about it on hellhole and I've gotten zero response. My moderation dispute had gone unanswered for 9 days now
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Roxborough4Ever
10/14/17 12:29:52 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
No I was warned for it


there has to be a way to get your karma back
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Ararararagi
10/14/17 12:30:25 PM
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Damage is done.
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Deadpool_18
10/14/17 12:32:14 PM
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Nomadic View posted...
But it looks like exactly what I got warned for saying is what happened.


The mods here believe anyone when they say they were raped, regardless of the evidence or, in this case, severe lack of.
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Deadpool_18
10/14/17 12:33:31 PM
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Tezlok posted...
I wonder if he threatened her family to get her to drop the case


If we even suggested the victim did something comparably shitty that message wouldve been modded.
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glitteringfairy
10/14/17 12:34:17 PM
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Roxborough4Ever posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
No I was warned for it


there has to be a way to get your karma back

It's not the karma, it's the principle of the matter. I was warned for doubting an accusation that had zero evidence. I've disputed, I've made a topic on hellhole, and I've gotten no response in either. A 9 day wait on a dispute is absurd. The mods are wrong and nobody wants to own up to it
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muchdran
10/14/17 12:36:40 PM
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Fuck bionic it's ironic, slammin haters like Onix.
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muchdran
10/14/17 12:37:14 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Roxborough4Ever posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
No I was warned for it


there has to be a way to get your karma back

It's not the karma, it's the principle of the matter. I was warned for doubting an accusation that had zero evidence. I've disputed, I've made a topic on hellhole, and I've gotten no response in either. A 9 day wait on a dispute is absurd. The mods are wrong and nobody wants to own up to it

Mods are crooked as shit
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Nomadic View
10/14/17 1:38:40 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Roxborough4Ever posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
No I was warned for it


there has to be a way to get your karma back

It's not the karma, it's the principle of the matter. I was warned for doubting an accusation that had zero evidence. I've disputed, I've made a topic on hellhole, and I've gotten no response in either. A 9 day wait on a dispute is absurd. The mods are wrong and nobody wants to own up to it


I just rolled my eyes and hit accept. I wish I would have contested mine later though.

When you get a response tag me and let me know what they said.
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apocalyptic_4
10/14/17 1:41:53 PM
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Anyone who keeps up with hip hop or is familiar with nelly would know this is BS.

Claim came out of no where and nelly if all people isn't the type to do this especially in his own trailer before a show.
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The Admiral
10/14/17 1:42:01 PM
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9 days is absolutely ridiculous. This means the entire staff knows it wasn't a violation, but no one wants to deal with forwarding it back to the acting mod... which I'm sure was one of the senior mods who frequents CE and is known for this kind of nonsense.

This is exactly why I'm glad Allen is scrapping the current dispute system.
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AlternativeFAQS
10/14/17 1:42:50 PM
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hey guys she wants the case dropped because of the attention, not because she's recanting it
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Nomadic View
10/14/17 1:45:43 PM
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If the moderations that a moderator is overturned at a rate that is way out of line with the average, then that moderator should be put on some type of probationary period where he tries to get his ratio back in line. If he cant then he should be removed from service.
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hockeybub89
10/14/17 1:45:51 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Roxborough4Ever posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
No I was warned for it


there has to be a way to get your karma back

It's not the karma, it's the principle of the matter. I was warned for doubting an accusation that had zero evidence. I've disputed, I've made a topic on hellhole, and I've gotten no response in either. A 9 day wait on a dispute is absurd. The mods are wrong and nobody wants to own up to it

The only wrong thing is that they don't moderate posts that assume the accused did it as well.
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Nomadic View
10/14/17 1:51:32 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Roxborough4Ever posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
No I was warned for it


there has to be a way to get your karma back

It's not the karma, it's the principle of the matter. I was warned for doubting an accusation that had zero evidence. I've disputed, I've made a topic on hellhole, and I've gotten no response in either. A 9 day wait on a dispute is absurd. The mods are wrong and nobody wants to own up to it

The only wrong thing is that they don't moderate posts that assume the accused did it as well.


Personally, I think the better alternative would be to moderate neither, but at the very least be consistent.
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Akagami_Shanks
10/14/17 1:54:41 PM
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AlternativeFAQS posted...
hey guys she wants the case dropped because of the attention, not because she's recanting it

she's going to get even more attention for dropping the case than she would have if it went through and it was proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Nelly did rape her.
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The Admiral
10/14/17 2:00:51 PM
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Like I asked before, who is giving her this attention? Unlike Nelly, who was publicly accused of being a rapist without evidence, this woman's name was never released.
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Darksaber310
10/14/17 2:01:59 PM
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I was there in that thread while it all happened, had to be the biggest shit-show I've seen. Every other post was modded (granted you had the usual trolls) but I saw one (paraphrasing, I think it was Glittering's) get modded for literally gently suggesting that we wait for more info without condemning either party. It was ludicrous. Literally anyone who expressed reasonable doubt on Nelly's side or even expressed sentiments of innocent until proven guilty was hammered.
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glitteringfairy
10/14/17 2:18:29 PM
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Nomadic View posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Roxborough4Ever posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
No I was warned for it


there has to be a way to get your karma back

It's not the karma, it's the principle of the matter. I was warned for doubting an accusation that had zero evidence. I've disputed, I've made a topic on hellhole, and I've gotten no response in either. A 9 day wait on a dispute is absurd. The mods are wrong and nobody wants to own up to it


I just rolled my eyes and hit accept. I wish I would have contested mine later though.

When you get a response tag me and let me know what they said.

Yea man I'll let you know. If I ever get a response LOL
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apocalyptic_4
10/14/17 2:33:36 PM
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Darksaber310 posted...
I was there in that thread while it all happened, had to be the biggest shit-show I've seen. Every other post was modded (granted you had the usual trolls) but I saw one (paraphrasing, I think it was Glittering's) get modded for literally gently suggesting that we wait for more info without condemning either party. It was ludicrous. Literally anyone who expressed reasonable doubt on Nelly's side or even expressed sentiments of innocent until proven guilty was hammered.


I remember the topic, I usually side with the mods on moderation but in that case they were blatantly wrong.
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A_Good_Boy
10/14/17 2:34:34 PM
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Woah, someone that accused a celebrity of raping them dropped the case? When does that ever happen except for all the time? Good job on those moderators from a dying video game message board for setting the record straight.
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