Current Events > Some people in Canada want to ban pit bulls...

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFa8HOdegZA

Sounds like a pretty divisive political thing

Is there actual evidence that pit bulls are more dangerous than other dogs?
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Some people in Canada

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frozenshock posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFa8HOdegZA

Sounds like a pretty divisive political thing

Is there actual evidence that pit bulls are more dangerous than other dogs?

No.

And some places already have. It's idiotic. Iirc places in the US have at least considered bans too
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frozenshock posted...

Is there actual evidence that pit bulls are more dangerous than other dogs?

More aggressive towards other dogs, yes. However, dog-aggression and people-aggression are different things, and around people Pitbulls are total sweethearts.
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the breeding of chihuahuas, pit bulls and other small dogs should be banned because those dogs live their lives with birth defects that make their lives suffering (trouble breathing, bulgy eyes that have no protection, difficulty eating, etc).

Anisoptera posted...

the breeding of chihuahuas, pit bulls and other small dogs should be banned because those dogs live their lives with birth defects that make their lives suffering (trouble breathing, bulgy eyes that have no protection, difficulty eating, etc).

Pit bulls? Don't you mean bulldogs? I thought the only real "issue" with pit bulls was hip dysplasia which isn't even unique to them.
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They are banned in my country: They will be put to death.

They are banned in a lot of the Denver metro area but not the state of Colorado which leaves some wiggle room. Someone may do a longer commute if they really want to keep their Pit Bull and they really want to live near Denver.

frozenshock posted...

Is there actual evidence that pit bulls are more dangerous than other dogs?

No. There isn't.
s0nicfan posted...

frozenshock posted...

Is there actual evidence that pit bulls are more dangerous than other dogs?

More aggressive towards other dogs, yes. However, dog-aggression and people-aggression are different things, and around people Pitbulls are total sweethearts.

This. All of this.

I get into this argument so often that I don't even try anymore.
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i can trust my pitbull around other people. but the one thing i'm more cautious about is other dogs (very unpredictable) and i don't want to find out what happens. i always have a great grip whenever a dog goes nearby i try to pull it away from the distraction.

it gets along with cats (was raised with one prior) plus its a huge dog.
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They are banned not because of one sole reason. All things equal, they do a lot more damage than most other dogs, during an attack. Culturally, they are used as weapons and status symbols amongst some of the more undesirables in society.

Yeah it sucks for legit owners and the good dogs. But for you to speak like they are no more harmful than a poodle? well, that's ignorance.

Dog aggression is also bad. Not as bad as people aggression. But if your dog gets killed by another dog, how would you like that?

frozenshock posted...

Is there actual evidence that pit bulls are more dangerous than other dogs?

statistics are pretty damning for pit bulls.

the majority of dog attack fatalities are by pit bulls. While pit bulls consist of a minority attacks, the attacks that they are part of are significantly more likely to be lethal.

which makes sense if you think about it, I mean, getting your leg bitten by a fluff ball corgi is going to be an annoying trip to urgent care at worst.
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ChromaticAngel posted...

statistics are pretty damning for pit bulls.

Statistics are also skewed significantly in most studies. So many breeds are lumped together under one "pit bull" umbrella.
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thats racist. the reason pit bulls act violent is cause humans decided they are supposed to be violent and train them to be violent. take a pitbull puppy strasight from the womb and treat t like a normal pet and it's any other dog

Zikten posted...

thats racist. the reason pit bulls act violent is cause humans decided they are supposed to be violent and train them to be violent. take a pitbull puppy strasight from the womb and treat t like a normal pet and it's any other dog

You can say the same shit about fucking tigers but literally nobody is going around saying tigers are harmless pets that just love their owners.
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If you don't understand the danger of pitbulls then you don't understand the history of the breed. Pitbulls are not inherently bad, but pitbulls are far more predisposed to "snapping" due to their historical usage. The entire premise of selective breeding is to pass on or develop desirable traits, sometimes with mixed results. The pitbull breed was extremely good at what it was bred for: strength, power, and its fight.

Pitbulls can be wonderful family dogs and live their entire lifespan as happy and playful as any other dog with no problems whatsoever. Many owners have had such experiences. But pitbulls have a genetic predisposition that no other breed can claim. In fact, no other breed comes close. Owners who've witnessed their playful pitbull attack other dogs, children, adults, etc. will always say there were no warning signs... it just happened out of nowhere.

Lock up those owners. Learn the history of dog breeds and fucking respect it, especially with pitbulls. Be extremely vigilant at all times, in every environment, around all things. The pitbull can and will react violently for no apparent reason to us, not because they're evil, but because that's what we scumbag humans created.

@kingdrake2 has the the right idea. It's never wrong to be very careful with your pitbull. That doesn't mean the dog is crazy, but being prepared is a wise move when you own a breed that can cause serious damage in a short amount of time.

The moral of the story is: good owners = good dogs, bad owners = bad dogs, with any breed.
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Do you suppose I could get a dog that would be really good at herding and want to instinctively do that?

Yeah, sure. You would get a German Shepard.

What if I wanted a dog that breed to be really friendly and docile?

I would get a Golden Lab then.

Say I wanted a dog that was breed to violent and fearless?

OMG STOP PITBULLS ARE SUCH SWEET NICE DOGS ITS THE OWNERS FAULT HOW DARE YOU
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I don't throw the term "racist/classist" around lightly, but in my experience anti-pitbull legislation is mostly kinda racist/classist. Like it's kinda just a naked attack on the way black people/poor whites are attached to pit bulls as a cultural thing. I've had no bad experiences with pits myself. My sister had a boyfriend who had 2 that seemed sweet. He lived in a shitty neighborhood and had them to scare people off, which they did well, but they were docile as heck around me.
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s0nicfan posted...

frozenshock posted...

Is there actual evidence that pit bulls are more dangerous than other dogs?

More aggressive towards other dogs, yes. However, dog-aggression and people-aggression are different things, and around people Pitbulls are total sweethearts.

This. My buddy has one that's fully grown, thinks it's a small dog and wants people to hold him all the time, and is a major slut for attention lol.
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It almost happened in Quebec where I live. People were really really pissed off.
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I think the main problem with pitbulls are alot of the "urban" population think they are cool and its the go to dog to own and they dogs end up having bad owners and/or get trained to attack people for protection
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Men aren't animals, they are pitbulls.
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