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Flasbangs
10/12/17 9:10:09 AM
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https://www.truthdig.com/articles/yes-sweden-is-a-paradise-lost-but-not-because-of-immigration-2/

I honestly don't know what to believe anymore.
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NINExATExSEVEN
10/12/17 9:16:05 AM
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Flasbangs posted...
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/yes-sweden-is-a-paradise-lost-but-not-because-of-immigration-2/

I honestly don't know what to believe anymore.


That article uses agenda driven words and is seeping in bias.

The whole article is pro immigrants and "omg white men!".
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Flasbangs
10/12/17 9:18:51 AM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Flasbangs posted...
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/yes-sweden-is-a-paradise-lost-but-not-because-of-immigration-2/

I honestly don't know what to believe anymore.


That article uses agenda driven words and is seeping in bias.

The whole article is pro immigrants and "omg white men!".


Yes, but I feel like all articles come with different stories about the same subject, it's hard to separate bullshit from fact.
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FF_Redux
10/12/17 9:19:47 AM
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Don't feel like reading all that. But what you people spread about Sweden is not the full truth for the most time, and internet just wants to put Sweden in bad light to promote their agenda. I'm not denying we have problems due to immigration but it's not as bad as you think.
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pinky0926
10/12/17 9:24:02 AM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Flasbangs posted...
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/yes-sweden-is-a-paradise-lost-but-not-because-of-immigration-2/

I honestly don't know what to believe anymore.


That article uses agenda driven words and is seeping in bias.

The whole article is pro immigrants and "omg white men!".


It's an op-ed dude.
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Ammonitida
10/12/17 9:28:52 AM
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Nothing wrong with the article. She's just calling out the legion of bigots who are spreading vile propaganda against a minority population in Sweden.

The truth is, Swedens rape statistics cannot be compared to those of other countries because of Swedens definition of rape. In France, if a man rapes a woman 50 times, this counts as one rape; but it would count as 50 rapes in Sweden.


Surveys of Swedish women find rape incidence in line with other European countries.
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A_Good_Boy
10/12/17 9:30:27 AM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
That article uses agenda driven words and is seeping in bias.

NINExATExSEVEN posted...
The whole article is pro immigrants and "omg white men!".

No sense of irony here at all.
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NINExATExSEVEN
10/12/17 9:35:54 AM
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Flasbangs posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Flasbangs posted...
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/yes-sweden-is-a-paradise-lost-but-not-because-of-immigration-2/

I honestly don't know what to believe anymore.


That article uses agenda driven words and is seeping in bias.

The whole article is pro immigrants and "omg white men!".


Yes, but I feel like all articles come with different stories about the same subject, it's hard to separate bullshit from fact.


Agreed
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NINExATExSEVEN
10/12/17 9:42:00 AM
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Ammonitida posted...
Nothing wrong with the article. She's just calling out the legion of bigots who are spreading vile propaganda against a minority population in Sweden.

The truth is, Swedens rape statistics cannot be compared to those of other countries because of Swedens definition of rape. In France, if a man rapes a woman 50 times, this counts as one rape; but it would count as 50 rapes in Sweden.


Surveys of Swedish women find rape incidence in line with other European countries.


Wouldn't that still show non ethnic Swedes to be more of a problem when counting up who commits more sexual assaults?

Regardless if 1 assault counts as 1 or 50, both native ethnic Swedes and immigrants are still having the same numbers applied to them.

Immigrants and their descendents are still over represented.
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Ammonitida
10/12/17 9:54:12 AM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Nothing wrong with the article. She's just calling out the legion of bigots who are spreading vile propaganda against a minority population in Sweden.

The truth is, Swedens rape statistics cannot be compared to those of other countries because of Swedens definition of rape. In France, if a man rapes a woman 50 times, this counts as one rape; but it would count as 50 rapes in Sweden.


Surveys of Swedish women find rape incidence in line with other European countries.


Wouldn't that still show non ethnic Swedes to be more of a problem when counting up who commits more sexual assaults?

Regardless if 1 assault counts as 1 or 50, both native ethnic Swedes and immigrants are still having the same numbers applied to them.

Immigrants and their descendents are still over represented.


https://debunkingdenialism.com/2015/12/12/how-anti-immigration-activists-misuse-rape-statistics/

Of course some immigrant groups are going to be overrepresented in crime. Many are refugees from war torn/poverty stricken countries. That's no excuse for vilifying entire populations, the vast majority of whom are not engaging in violent crime.
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ROBANN_88
10/12/17 5:34:35 PM
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"Sweden is, after all, the European country that has perhaps been the best at integrating immigrants."

i am calling bullshit on that part.

Sweden has been absolute shit at integrating immigrants ever since the previous waves in the 90's
hell, we've barely even been able to integrate Skne since we took it from the Danes
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FF_Redux
10/13/17 4:45:12 AM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
"Sweden is, after all, the European country that has perhaps been the best at integrating immigrants."

i am calling bullshit on that part.

Sweden has been absolute shit at integrating immigrants ever since the previous waves in the 90's
hell, we've barely even been able to integrate Skne since we took it from the Danes


Yeah this is true.
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