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Jorep
10/11/17 9:28:02 PM
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Is a factual account inherently unbiased?

Why or why not?
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UnholyMudcrab
10/11/17 9:28:27 PM
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Antifar
10/11/17 9:29:05 PM
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Jorep posted...
Is a factual account inherently unbiased?

No; biases play into which facts are included or not included in accounts.
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boxington
10/11/17 9:29:06 PM
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no, but people can use them in a racist manner, depending on their agenda
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MikeArmstrong
10/11/17 9:29:26 PM
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No, but the way you present facts most definitely can be.
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hockeybub89
10/11/17 9:30:34 PM
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MikeArmstrong posted...
No, but the way you present facts most definitely can be.

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Nomadic View
10/11/17 9:30:55 PM
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No.
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Zeeak4444
10/11/17 9:31:29 PM
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Antifar posted...
Jorep posted...
Is a factual account inherently unbiased?

No; biases play into which facts are included or not included in accounts.


MikeArmstrong posted...
No, but the way you present facts most definitely can be.


These.
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ChromaticAngel
10/11/17 9:36:37 PM
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It's possible to state facts out of context in a way that suggests racism is justified.

They aren't inherently racist though.
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Jorep
10/11/17 9:46:24 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Can I reshuffle and get a different question, please?


No.

Zeeak4444 posted...
Antifar posted...
Jorep posted...
Is a factual account inherently unbiased?

No; biases play into which facts are included or not included in accounts.


MikeArmstrong posted...
No, but the way you present facts most definitely can be.


These.


ChromaticAngel posted...
It's possible to state facts out of context in a way that suggests racism is justified.

They aren't inherently racist though.


Would be interested to see some examples of these at play.
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ChromaticAngel
10/11/17 10:35:32 PM
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Jorep posted...

Would be interested to see some examples of these at play.


A good example would be to point out what percentage of black people (out of only all black people and not the population at large) are arrested vs the percentage of white people.

Doing so neglects to illustrate that prison population is majority white, and also fails to illustrate demographic economic status (poverty has more crime).

It also neglects to demonstrate that courts often punish black criminals harder than white ones and are more likely to be given longer sentences.
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RockRapDubstep
10/11/17 10:36:57 PM
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MikeArmstrong posted...
No, but the way you present facts most definitely can be.

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Glass_Phantom
10/11/17 10:37:12 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
MikeArmstrong posted...
No, but the way you present facts most definitely can be.
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MabusIncarnate
10/11/17 10:38:31 PM
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These days, virtually anything can be racist if you twist it enough. So yes.
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Capn Circus
10/11/17 10:42:13 PM
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@Jorep

Hey! Do you still do the CE podcasts? You have a great voice.
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Jorep
10/11/17 11:59:25 PM
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@ChromaticAngel strict semantics aside I can definitely dig that as a sort of biased output of a nonbiased input, so I see your point.

Capn Circus posted...
@Jorep

Hey! Do you still do the CE podcasts? You have a great voice.


@Capn_Circus I appreciate the compliment, sincerely. =D
I haven't done one of those in quite a while, though I'm definitely not opposed. When they fell by the wayside I had two interviews that fell through in unison and it coincided with me getting a promotion at work, so I became super busy for a little while.
If there was interest and some people want to come on and do an episode I'd be absolutely down.

These days I've been doing a lot of solo YouTube stuff, some unboxing and gaming vids but I'm trying to branch more into the sort of sociopolitical, economic side of radio. [/shameless plug]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNR2BM9VsXc


Stuff like that video.
I also stream on Twitch three or four times a week but I'll stop plugging myself now. I would totally love to do some more CE videos with people.
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Nomadic View
10/12/17 8:30:09 AM
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Even if youre using facts to support a racist narrative the facts are still not racist, the narrative is.
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Kineth
10/12/17 8:33:48 AM
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Nomadic View posted...
Even if youre using facts to support a racist narrative the facts are still not racist, the narrative is.


I'll agree with this.
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