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toyota 10/11/17 12:30:40 AM #1: |
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/08/dove-apologises-for-ad-showing-black-woman-turning-into-white-one
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/oct/10/i-am-woman-racist-dove-ad-not-a-victim https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLoCxvUX4AAO8qQ.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLoCxvcXUAIdyT7.jpg Thoughts? Who even comes up with ads like this thinking its a good idea? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackHorse6969 10/11/17 12:32:30 AM #2: |
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dave_is_slick 10/11/17 12:32:32 AM #3: |
Almost every instance of this is overreacting but this...
Who the hell thought that was a good idea? --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axiom 10/11/17 12:34:48 AM #4: |
BlackHorse6969 posted...
how is that racist? it's just women turning into different races Using a black person as "dirt" and using soap to "clean" them into a white person. You don't see how people would find that offensive ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 10/11/17 12:34:48 AM #5: |
BlackHorse6969 posted...
how is that racist? it's just women turning into different races Historical context. There literally used to be commercials about detergents/soap so strong they turned black people white. So that a soap company has a commercial where a black woman turns into a white woman doesn't look good, no matter how well intended it was. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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St0rmFury 10/11/17 12:35:35 AM #6: |
Axiom posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...how is that racist? it's just women turning into different races I take it you didn't watch the full commercial. --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Flasbangs 10/11/17 12:37:07 AM #8: |
They should really just stop being diverse in anything. Too many tears from weak-minded crybabies.
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Axiom 10/11/17 12:37:38 AM #9: |
dave_is_slick posted...
Who the hell thought that was a good idea? Ad in China tried the same thing. Went over about as well over there as the dove ad did which says a lot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackHorse6969 10/11/17 12:37:49 AM #10: |
scar the 1 posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...how is that racist? it's just women turning into different races yeah but the white woman turns into a middle eastern so whats the problem? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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joeywheeler 10/11/17 12:41:55 AM #11: |
Axiom posted...
dave_is_slick posted...Who the hell thought that was a good idea? Omg these people are insane ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Esrac 10/11/17 12:45:57 AM #12: |
It looks racist until you see the whole add. Then it looks more inclusive.
Right after a black woman swaps with the white woman, the white woman swaps with an Asian woman. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CapnMuffin 10/11/17 12:46:58 AM #13: |
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iPhone_7 10/11/17 12:47:03 AM #14: |
toyota posted...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLoCxvUX4AAO8qQ.jpg Axiom posted...
How is any of this racist??? This is racist, that is racist, everything is racist to you liberals. This is why Trump won. --- Sig User Logic http://i.imgur.com/lA5fm7w.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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boxington 10/11/17 12:48:33 AM #15: |
^ are you kidding about the Chinese ad?
it's hard to tell these days. --- b-bb-box ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 10/11/17 12:50:30 AM #16: |
wtf, this is recent? Am I feeling deja vu or did this exact same fucking thing happen a few years ago? I thought it was even Dove too.
whatever, how completely idiotic things like this make it from the idea phase to an actual commercial/billboard/whatever aired before millions blows my mind every time. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 10/11/17 2:48:28 AM #17: |
BlackHorse6969 posted...
scar the 1 posted...BlackHorse6969 posted...how is that racist? it's just women turning into different races I feel like I just explained the problem and you didn't care. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kuwab0 10/11/17 2:51:03 AM #18: |
Strange how the part where the White lady turns into an Asian/Hispanic? lady is always cut off
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MaverickXeo 10/11/17 2:55:50 AM #19: |
Axiom posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...how is that racist? it's just women turning into different races So about the white lady turning into a middle eastern woman afterward? --- --- MaverickXeo --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Deadpool_18 10/11/17 2:57:25 AM #20: |
kuwab0 posted...
Strange how the part where the White lady turns into an Asian/Hispanic? lady is always cut off Gotta push that agenda/victim complex. --- We're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon, but there ain't no whales, so we tell tall tales, and sing our whaling tune. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kisai 10/11/17 3:01:42 AM #21: |
iPhone_7 posted...
toyota posted...https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLoCxvUX4AAO8qQ.jpg That Chinese ad is racist as hell, what are you talking about? --- WHO MODS THE MODERATORS? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mistere Man 10/11/17 3:02:09 AM #22: |
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AffligemFR 10/11/17 3:25:26 AM #23: |
Kisai posted...
iPhone_7 posted...toyota posted...https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLoCxvUX4AAO8qQ.jpg This ad is definitely racist. --- Massive walking dead fan :) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Esrac 10/11/17 5:58:28 AM #24: |
scar the 1 posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...scar the 1 posted...BlackHorse6969 posted...how is that racist? it's just women turning into different races It's more like your explanation is invalid in the face of the full ad. It isn't an ad about soap turning a dirty black woman into a clean white woman, so any historical context regarding that doesn't fairly apply. The historical context is irrelevant. Unless that historical context also addresses the white woman swapping out for the middle eastern woman. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 10/11/17 8:33:22 AM #25: |
Esrac posted...
It's more like your explanation is invalid in the face of the full ad. It isn't an ad about soap turning a dirty black woman into a clean white woman, so any historical context regarding that doesn't fairly apply. The historical context is irrelevant. Unless that historical context also addresses the white woman swapping out for the middle eastern woman. The historical context doesn't make it racist. It makes it look bad, because it looks similar. Given a proper watch-through, I agree with you. That's not the issue. The issue is that it reminds people of a bad thing. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheoryzC 10/11/17 8:36:00 AM #26: |
They could have saved themselves the bad publicity if they changed the women order around
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Laserion 10/11/17 8:44:37 AM #27: |
At this point, all ads should use blue, purple or green people for everything, but only one color per ad. Make everyone a Na'vi.
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NINExATExSEVEN 10/11/17 8:46:17 AM #28: |
Deadpool_18 posted...
kuwab0 posted...Strange how the part where the White lady turns into an Asian/Hispanic? lady is always cut off The victim complex today is so strong that it could power all of China. This is like that gap ad a while back where the outrage warriors thought that a white kid leaning on a black kid is racist............... But gap also has an ad with a black kid leaning on a white kid and....... nothing, no outrage. Seriously diversity fucking sucks nowadays. --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Santorin 10/11/17 8:49:58 AM #29: |
I'm starting to think the only people that are racist are the ones screaming racism at every turn.
It's kind of like the whole who smelt it dealt it thing when you were a kid. You know where you fart and be like "omg good farted" so it doesn't look like you did it. Yeah this is what this is really starting to look like to me. --- I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided; and that is the lamp of experience. Patrick Henry ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 10/11/17 9:02:54 AM #30: |
TheoryzC posted...
They could have saved themselves the bad publicity if they changed the women order around It's literally just this. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 10/11/17 9:57:23 AM #31: |
pegusus123456 posted...
TheoryzC posted...They could have saved themselves the bad publicity if they changed the women order around Literally literally this --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Esrac 10/11/17 9:57:45 AM #32: |
pegusus123456 posted...
TheoryzC posted...They could have saved themselves the bad publicity if they changed the women order around Honestly, I suspect any order that didn't involve putting the white woman first and then swapping in the darker skinned women would have had a similar response. Because some outrage-monger would likely still take an out of context screenshot and spread it around as they did here. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 10/11/17 9:59:33 AM #33: |
Seems to me people didn't see the full ad and only saw the bit with the ending cropped out. I can see why people might take offence to a black woman turning white if that is all they were shown, but it was very obvious it wasn't their intent, given the white woman then turned a darker shade again.
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DevsBro 10/11/17 10:02:32 AM #34: |
I guess the idea was to say that people of all races can use it or whatever but did they really not think about how that would look?
I would be inclined to say it was intentional if she didn't proceed to change from white to arabic. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zembaphobia 10/11/17 10:03:38 AM #35: |
lol
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Ammonitida 10/11/17 10:04:42 AM #36: |
AffligemFR posted...
Kisai posted...iPhone_7 posted...toyota posted...https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLoCxvUX4AAO8qQ.jpg Indeed. Probably scripted by a bitter Asian male who was upset at seeing black male/Asian female couples in China (an increasing sight in China I hear). The Dove ad, not so much. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fam_Fam 10/11/17 10:05:42 AM #37: |
DevsBro posted...
I guess the idea was to say that people of all races can use it or whatever but did they really not think about how that would look? this. they didn't realize people would take it out of context, and make them look bad. perhaps they should have, I don't know =/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 10/11/17 10:07:34 AM #38: |
Heck, the black woman in it (Lola Ogunyemi) fully supports the ad, and would do it again she has claimed and see's it as it was intended - something to embrace the beauty in all women.
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NINExATExSEVEN 10/12/17 10:06:57 PM #41: |
Wherethisfeom posted...
Is this racist? I bet you the whiners of the dove ad won't appear anymore because they would have to admit it is by their own racism standards lol. --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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boxington 10/12/17 10:08:08 PM #42: |
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I Like Toast 10/12/17 10:09:52 PM #43: |
toyota posted...
Thoughts? Don't post bullshit to give it more attention --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NINExATExSEVEN 10/12/17 10:10:51 PM #44: |
boxington posted...
Wherethisfeom posted...Is this racist? Double standards much? --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DesuDeku 10/12/17 10:13:31 PM #45: |
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boxington 10/12/17 10:14:55 PM #46: |
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
boxington posted...Wherethisfeom posted...Is this racist? there's no history of white people being considered "dirty", and the video can be seen as a white lady wanting to fuck a black guy --- b-bb-box ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 10/12/17 10:14:56 PM #47: |
DesuDeku posted...
Kinda reminds me of this ad lol. I'm sure that was just done because the contrast of colors makes it easier to see, but god how do people not see how stuff like this is going to cause controversy. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CartmanMustDie 10/12/17 10:22:21 PM #48: |
boxington posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...boxington posted...Wherethisfeom posted...Is this racist? It literally says "colored is better" at the end. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NINExATExSEVEN 10/12/17 10:26:27 PM #49: |
boxington posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...boxington posted...Wherethisfeom posted...Is this racist? Are you being serious right now? Is "omg history" the only excuse you people will use so you can push double standards? So the Chinese commercial of a black guy turning into an Asian guy is racist.... But the same commercial of a white guy turning into a black guy isn't racist even though the commercial by your standards of logic is portraying that white and pale is ugly but black is sexy... Idk how you can go through all those mental gymnastic. You've convinced yourself that nothing can be racist if it portrays a black person as better than another race. --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 10/12/17 10:28:31 PM #50: |
racism is about intent. calm down.
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