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toyota
10/11/17 12:30:40 AM
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BlackHorse6969
10/11/17 12:32:30 AM
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how is that racist? it's just women turning into different races
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dave_is_slick
10/11/17 12:32:32 AM
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Almost every instance of this is overreacting but this...

Who the hell thought that was a good idea?
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Axiom
10/11/17 12:34:48 AM
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BlackHorse6969 posted...
how is that racist? it's just women turning into different races

Using a black person as "dirt" and using soap to "clean" them into a white person. You don't see how people would find that offensive
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scar the 1
10/11/17 12:34:48 AM
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BlackHorse6969 posted...
how is that racist? it's just women turning into different races

Historical context. There literally used to be commercials about detergents/soap so strong they turned black people white. So that a soap company has a commercial where a black woman turns into a white woman doesn't look good, no matter how well intended it was.
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St0rmFury
10/11/17 12:35:35 AM
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Axiom posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
how is that racist? it's just women turning into different races

Using a black person as "dirt" and using soap to "clean" them into a white person. You don't see how people would find that offensive

I take it you didn't watch the full commercial.
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Flasbangs
10/11/17 12:37:07 AM
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They should really just stop being diverse in anything. Too many tears from weak-minded crybabies.
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Axiom
10/11/17 12:37:38 AM
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dave_is_slick posted...
Who the hell thought that was a good idea?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEwnMTaXTys


Ad in China tried the same thing. Went over about as well over there as the dove ad did which says a lot
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BlackHorse6969
10/11/17 12:37:49 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
how is that racist? it's just women turning into different races

Historical context. There literally used to be commercials about detergents/soap so strong they turned black people white. So that a soap company has a commercial where a black woman turns into a white woman doesn't look good, no matter how well intended it was.

yeah but the white woman turns into a middle eastern
so whats the problem?
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joeywheeler
10/11/17 12:41:55 AM
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Axiom posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
Who the hell thought that was a good idea?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEwnMTaXTys


Ad in China tried the same thing. Went over about as well over there as the dove ad did which says a lot


Omg these people are insane
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Esrac
10/11/17 12:45:57 AM
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It looks racist until you see the whole add. Then it looks more inclusive.

Right after a black woman swaps with the white woman, the white woman swaps with an Asian woman.
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CapnMuffin
10/11/17 12:46:58 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJssvw1LQbI

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iPhone_7
10/11/17 12:47:03 AM
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toyota posted...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLoCxvUX4AAO8qQ.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLoCxvcXUAIdyT7.jpg

Axiom posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEwnMTaXTys

How is any of this racist??? This is racist, that is racist, everything is racist to you liberals. This is why Trump won.
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boxington
10/11/17 12:48:33 AM
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^ are you kidding about the Chinese ad?

it's hard to tell these days.
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lilORANG
10/11/17 12:50:30 AM
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wtf, this is recent? Am I feeling deja vu or did this exact same fucking thing happen a few years ago? I thought it was even Dove too.

whatever, how completely idiotic things like this make it from the idea phase to an actual commercial/billboard/whatever aired before millions blows my mind every time.
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scar the 1
10/11/17 2:48:28 AM
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BlackHorse6969 posted...
scar the 1 posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
how is that racist? it's just women turning into different races

Historical context. There literally used to be commercials about detergents/soap so strong they turned black people white. So that a soap company has a commercial where a black woman turns into a white woman doesn't look good, no matter how well intended it was.

yeah but the white woman turns into a middle eastern
so whats the problem?

I feel like I just explained the problem and you didn't care.
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kuwab0
10/11/17 2:51:03 AM
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Strange how the part where the White lady turns into an Asian/Hispanic? lady is always cut off
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MaverickXeo
10/11/17 2:55:50 AM
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Axiom posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
how is that racist? it's just women turning into different races

Using a black person as "dirt" and using soap to "clean" them into a white person. You don't see how people would find that offensive


So about the white lady turning into a middle eastern woman afterward?
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Deadpool_18
10/11/17 2:57:25 AM
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kuwab0 posted...
Strange how the part where the White lady turns into an Asian/Hispanic? lady is always cut off


Gotta push that agenda/victim complex.
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Kisai
10/11/17 3:01:42 AM
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iPhone_7 posted...
toyota posted...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLoCxvUX4AAO8qQ.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLoCxvcXUAIdyT7.jpg

Axiom posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEwnMTaXTys

How is any of this racist??? This is racist, that is racist, everything is racist to you liberals. This is why Trump won.

That Chinese ad is racist as hell, what are you talking about?
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Mistere Man
10/11/17 3:02:09 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJssvw1LQbI


Full ad.
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AffligemFR
10/11/17 3:25:26 AM
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Kisai posted...
iPhone_7 posted...
toyota posted...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLoCxvUX4AAO8qQ.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLoCxvcXUAIdyT7.jpg

Axiom posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEwnMTaXTys

How is any of this racist??? This is racist, that is racist, everything is racist to you liberals. This is why Trump won.

That Chinese ad is racist as hell, what are you talking about?


This ad is definitely racist.
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Esrac
10/11/17 5:58:28 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
scar the 1 posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
how is that racist? it's just women turning into different races

Historical context. There literally used to be commercials about detergents/soap so strong they turned black people white. So that a soap company has a commercial where a black woman turns into a white woman doesn't look good, no matter how well intended it was.

yeah but the white woman turns into a middle eastern
so whats the problem?

I feel like I just explained the problem and you didn't care.


It's more like your explanation is invalid in the face of the full ad. It isn't an ad about soap turning a dirty black woman into a clean white woman, so any historical context regarding that doesn't fairly apply. The historical context is irrelevant. Unless that historical context also addresses the white woman swapping out for the middle eastern woman.
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scar the 1
10/11/17 8:33:22 AM
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Esrac posted...
It's more like your explanation is invalid in the face of the full ad. It isn't an ad about soap turning a dirty black woman into a clean white woman, so any historical context regarding that doesn't fairly apply. The historical context is irrelevant. Unless that historical context also addresses the white woman swapping out for the middle eastern woman.

The historical context doesn't make it racist. It makes it look bad, because it looks similar. Given a proper watch-through, I agree with you. That's not the issue. The issue is that it reminds people of a bad thing.
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TheoryzC
10/11/17 8:36:00 AM
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They could have saved themselves the bad publicity if they changed the women order around
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Laserion
10/11/17 8:44:37 AM
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At this point, all ads should use blue, purple or green people for everything, but only one color per ad. Make everyone a Na'vi.
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NINExATExSEVEN
10/11/17 8:46:17 AM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
kuwab0 posted...
Strange how the part where the White lady turns into an Asian/Hispanic? lady is always cut off


Gotta push that agenda/victim complex.


The victim complex today is so strong that it could power all of China.

This is like that gap ad a while back where the outrage warriors thought that a white kid leaning on a black kid is racist............... But gap also has an ad with a black kid leaning on a white kid and....... nothing, no outrage.

Seriously diversity fucking sucks nowadays.
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Santorin
10/11/17 8:49:58 AM
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I'm starting to think the only people that are racist are the ones screaming racism at every turn.

It's kind of like the whole who smelt it dealt it thing when you were a kid. You know where you fart and be like "omg good farted" so it doesn't look like you did it.

Yeah this is what this is really starting to look like to me.
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pegusus123456
10/11/17 9:02:54 AM
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TheoryzC posted...
They could have saved themselves the bad publicity if they changed the women order around

It's literally just this.
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scar the 1
10/11/17 9:57:23 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
TheoryzC posted...
They could have saved themselves the bad publicity if they changed the women order around

It's literally just this.

Literally literally this
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Esrac
10/11/17 9:57:45 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
TheoryzC posted...
They could have saved themselves the bad publicity if they changed the women order around

It's literally just this.


Honestly, I suspect any order that didn't involve putting the white woman first and then swapping in the darker skinned women would have had a similar response. Because some outrage-monger would likely still take an out of context screenshot and spread it around as they did here.
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Funkydog
10/11/17 9:59:33 AM
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Seems to me people didn't see the full ad and only saw the bit with the ending cropped out. I can see why people might take offence to a black woman turning white if that is all they were shown, but it was very obvious it wasn't their intent, given the white woman then turned a darker shade again.
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DevsBro
10/11/17 10:02:32 AM
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I guess the idea was to say that people of all races can use it or whatever but did they really not think about how that would look?

I would be inclined to say it was intentional if she didn't proceed to change from white to arabic.
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Zembaphobia
10/11/17 10:03:38 AM
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Ammonitida
10/11/17 10:04:42 AM
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AffligemFR posted...
Kisai posted...
iPhone_7 posted...
toyota posted...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLoCxvUX4AAO8qQ.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLoCxvcXUAIdyT7.jpg

Axiom posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEwnMTaXTys

How is any of this racist??? This is racist, that is racist, everything is racist to you liberals. This is why Trump won.

That Chinese ad is racist as hell, what are you talking about?


This ad is definitely racist.


Indeed. Probably scripted by a bitter Asian male who was upset at seeing black male/Asian female couples in China (an increasing sight in China I hear). The Dove ad, not so much.
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Fam_Fam
10/11/17 10:05:42 AM
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DevsBro posted...
I guess the idea was to say that people of all races can use it or whatever but did they really not think about how that would look?

I would be inclined to say it was intentional if she didn't proceed to change from white to arabic.


this.

they didn't realize people would take it out of context, and make them look bad. perhaps they should have, I don't know =/
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Funkydog
10/11/17 10:07:34 AM
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Heck, the black woman in it (Lola Ogunyemi) fully supports the ad, and would do it again she has claimed and see's it as it was intended - something to embrace the beauty in all women.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/oct/10/i-am-woman-racist-dove-ad-not-a-victim
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NINExATExSEVEN
10/12/17 10:06:57 PM
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Wherethisfeom posted...
Is this racist?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQQs3nl0LcY


I bet you the whiners of the dove ad won't appear anymore because they would have to admit it is by their own racism standards lol.
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boxington
10/12/17 10:08:08 PM
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Wherethisfeom posted...
Is this racist?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQQs3nl0LcY

no
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I Like Toast
10/12/17 10:09:52 PM
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toyota posted...
Thoughts?

Don't post bullshit to give it more attention
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NINExATExSEVEN
10/12/17 10:10:51 PM
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boxington posted...
Wherethisfeom posted...
Is this racist?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQQs3nl0LcY

no


Double standards much?
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DesuDeku
10/12/17 10:13:31 PM
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Kinda reminds me of this ad

Lf3bYBj
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boxington
10/12/17 10:14:55 PM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
boxington posted...
Wherethisfeom posted...
Is this racist?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQQs3nl0LcY

no


Double standards much?

there's no history of white people being considered "dirty", and the video can be seen as a white lady wanting to fuck a black guy
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lilORANG
10/12/17 10:14:56 PM
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DesuDeku posted...
Kinda reminds me of this ad

Lf3bYBj

lol. I'm sure that was just done because the contrast of colors makes it easier to see, but god how do people not see how stuff like this is going to cause controversy.
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CartmanMustDie
10/12/17 10:22:21 PM
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boxington posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
boxington posted...
Wherethisfeom posted...
Is this racist?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQQs3nl0LcY

no


Double standards much?

there's no history of white people being considered "dirty", and the video can be seen as a white lady wanting to fuck a black guy

It literally says "colored is better" at the end.
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NINExATExSEVEN
10/12/17 10:26:27 PM
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boxington posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
boxington posted...
Wherethisfeom posted...
Is this racist?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQQs3nl0LcY

no


Double standards much?

there's no history of white people being considered "dirty", and the video can be seen as a white lady wanting to fuck a black guy


Are you being serious right now? Is "omg history" the only excuse you people will use so you can push double standards?

So the Chinese commercial of a black guy turning into an Asian guy is racist.... But the same commercial of a white guy turning into a black guy isn't racist even though the commercial by your standards of logic is portraying that white and pale is ugly but black is sexy...

Idk how you can go through all those mental gymnastic. You've convinced yourself that nothing can be racist if it portrays a black person as better than another race.
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lilORANG
10/12/17 10:28:31 PM
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