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Damn_Underscore
10/10/17 12:07:09 PM
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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/thecut/what-open-marriage-taught_b_7849588.html

my wife is out on a date with a man named Paulo. Its her second date this week; her fourth this month so far. If it goes like the others, shell come home in the middle of the night, crawl into bed beside me, and tell me all about how she and Paulo had sex. I wont explode with anger or seethe with resentment. Ill tell her its a hot story and Im glad she had fun. Its hot because shes excited, and Im glad because Im a feminist.
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Kaname_Madoka
10/10/17 12:08:14 PM
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Why doesn't he go out and have sex too
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DreadedWave
10/10/17 12:09:50 PM
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I assume you didn't read the part where he also goes out and sleeps with other women?
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Romulox28
10/10/17 12:09:58 PM
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im fairly certain this is a fake article
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Questionmarktarius
10/10/17 12:31:10 PM
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Why bother even getting married?
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Flasbangs
10/10/17 12:31:52 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Why bother even getting married?


You can't let other men fuck your wife if you aren't married.
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Darkman124
10/10/17 12:34:12 PM
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i tend to assume such pieces are just ragebait and in no way real
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The Admiral
10/10/17 12:34:34 PM
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Always enjoy reading about what Sillyknees did after he left CE.
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Zodd3224
10/10/17 12:36:44 PM
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Why the sudden obsession with open relationships on this board? Methinks some people here are jealous.
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Balrog0
10/10/17 12:37:06 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Always enjoy reading about what Sillyknees did after he left CE.


haha
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Darkman124
10/10/17 12:39:09 PM
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Zodd3224 posted...
Why the sudden obsession with open relationships on this board? Methinks some people here are jealous.


it's not sudden, and the obsession comes from low status men being terrified of the few partners they manage to get betraying them

though in my case (and possibly pinky's? i think he had better outcomes than i did) it's also because i've been in monogamous relationships in which my partner asked for us to open them up. we did so, and my partner lost her shit over my enjoyment of the relationship following the rules of it, became convinced i'd been cheating on her while we were monogamous as well, went all sorts of nuts, and ultimately a reasonably well-functioning relationship completely imploded in a fairly short period of time.

looking back i believe she asked in bad faith expecting me to find little and her to be free to explore a bit as she had less experience than me. i

open relationships are ok if you start open. starting closed and opening them is a recipe for chaos.
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PokemonYoutube
10/10/17 12:39:18 PM
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What a cuck.
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thanosibe
10/10/17 12:40:14 PM
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Highwind07 posted...
Lol I remember this from last year.

CE grilled him pretty hard.
Yeah I remember this shit. I can't honestly think any real man that thinks anything of himself or his children would whore himself or let his wife whore herself and still call it a relationship after (don't want to trigger CE) they got married. The whole thing stinks of click bait just like the last time someone posted it on CE.

CE really want to hate women, don't they.
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Zodd3224
10/10/17 12:42:54 PM
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Darkman124 posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
Why the sudden obsession with open relationships on this board? Methinks some people here are jealous.


it's not sudden, and the obsession comes from low status men being terrified of the few partners they manage to get betraying them

though in my case (and possibly pinky's? i think he had better outcomes than i did) it's also because i've been in monogamous relationships in which my partner asked for us to open them up. we did so, and my partner lost her shit over my enjoyment of the relationship following the rules of it, became convinced i'd been cheating on her while we were monogamous as well, went all sorts of nuts, and ultimately a reasonably well-functioning relationship completely imploded in a fairly short period of time.

open relationships are ok if you start open. starting closed and opening them is a recipe for chaos.


I think the main reason for the obsession is people on this board just love using the word cuck as often as possible. Searching out instances of men not being alpha enough. Its funny to me that cuck has become the end all be all of insults to some people.
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Coolppl Owns
10/10/17 12:43:36 PM
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Lol
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Balrog0
10/10/17 12:45:53 PM
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Zodd3224 posted...
I think the main reason for the obsession is people on this board just love using the word cuck as often as possible. Searching out instances of men not being alpha enough. Its funny to me that cuck had become the end all be all of insults to some people.


honestly it makes sense

not to get all pop-political psychology or anything, but wage stagnation + women becoming relatively more successful at school + the loss of 'manly' manufacturing-style jobs + the rise of 'pink collar' middle class work has really thrown what darkman referred to as 'low status' men for a loop

I don't think it's purely because of a fear that it will happen to them, though. At least as much of it is about proving that high status men aren't really better than they are despite surface appearances. Sure he makes more money and he's married but he's just a cuck.
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ThyCorndog
10/10/17 12:45:56 PM
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Lol that's hilarious. I hope it's not real
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apocalyptic_4
10/10/17 12:47:28 PM
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The life of a cuck
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Zodd3224
10/10/17 12:50:16 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
I think the main reason for the obsession is people on this board just love using the word cuck as often as possible. Searching out instances of men not being alpha enough. Its funny to me that cuck had become the end all be all of insults to some people.


honestly it makes sense

not to get all pop-political psychology or anything, but wage stagnation + women becoming relatively more successful at school + the loss of 'manly' manufacturing-style jobs + the rise of 'pink collar' middle class work has really thrown what darkman referred to as 'low status' men for a loop

I don't think it's purely because of a fear that it will happen to them, though. At least as much of it is about proving that high status men aren't really better than they are despite surface appearances. Sure he makes more money and he's married but he's just a cuck.


The funny part is, he is going out and banging other women too. What a CUCK!
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stoltenberg11
10/10/17 12:53:27 PM
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Men are competitive by nature, so any instance they can find to put themselves above another man (like this) is obsessed over. "Haha look at this cuck letting other men bang his gf/wife I'm clearly better than him!"
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Darkman124
10/10/17 12:54:02 PM
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Balrog0 posted...

honestly it makes sense

not to get all pop-political psychology or anything, but wage stagnation + women becoming relatively more successful at school + the loss of 'manly' manufacturing-style jobs + the rise of 'pink collar' middle class work has really thrown what darkman referred to as 'low status' men for a loop

I don't think it's purely because of a fear that it will happen to them, though. At least as much of it is about proving that high status men aren't really better than they are despite surface appearances. Sure he makes more money and he's married but he's just a cuck.


well put

i think a lot of patriarchal institutions basically existed to create a measure of societal balance wherein even below average men have a decent shot at finding a mate (and thereby not take the kinds of risks that endanger the lives of others, such as crime)

in nature you don't see that--you see a very strong skew in male mating behaviors

i think it's one of the many existential screams that are being created by our moving away from those institutions, as we move a little more towards the 'natural' order which has a more skewed distribution of mates

(of course, there's good reason to end those institutions--they aided these men at cost to essentially all women)
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E32005
10/10/17 12:54:52 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
im fairly certain this is a fake article

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thanosibe
10/10/17 12:55:24 PM
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Darkman124 posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
Why the sudden obsession with open relationships on this board? Methinks some people here are jealous.


it's not sudden, and the obsession comes from low status men being terrified of the few partners they manage to get betraying them

though in my case (and possibly pinky's? i think he had better outcomes than i did) it's also because i've been in monogamous relationships in which my partner asked for us to open them up. we did so, and my partner lost her shit over my enjoyment of the relationship following the rules of it, became convinced i'd been cheating on her while we were monogamous as well, went all sorts of nuts, and ultimately a reasonably well-functioning relationship completely imploded in a fairly short period of time.

looking back i believe she asked in bad faith expecting me to find little and her to be free to explore a bit as she had less experience than me. i

open relationships are ok if you start open. starting closed and opening them is a recipe for chaos.
That seems pretty common sense. But if you date/are with a person for a reasonable length of time I would think that you could feel out if a person is for an open relationship before it gets too serious. Or just straight out ask. Like kids are sometimes a deal breaker for two people before it gets serious. How does one out the blue spring "hey lets fuck other people" to someone they've been monogamous with?

It's an honest inquiry since you've been in the situation. Not trying to troll.
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Darkman124
10/10/17 12:58:12 PM
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thanosibe posted...
That seems pretty common sense. But if you date/are with a person for a reasonable length of time I would think that you could feel out if a person is for an open relationship before it gets too serious. Or just straight out ask. Like kids are sometimes a deal breaker for two people before it gets serious. How does one out the blue spring "hey lets f*** other people" to someone they've been monogamous with?

It's an honest inquiry since you've been in the situation. Not trying to troll.


imo there is no way to ask that doesnt have the potential for hurt feelings

my wife asked me once, noting in part that she wants to watch me fuck other people and in part that she has only ever been with me and is curious what it's like with others

i said no for the above reasons, and because i have mostly lost interest in fucking other women so there's nothing in it for me

it wasn't a pleasant conversation but she wasn't pushy or demanding and accepted my answer of 'no'

with the ex i opened things up with, she also asked. at the time i was pretty young and still around lots of other women all the time, so i was enthusiastic about the idea and ignorant of how she'd react to it
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Zodd3224
10/10/17 12:58:59 PM
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stoltenberg11 posted...
Men are competitive by nature, so any instance they can find to put themselves above another man (like this) is obsessed over. "Haha look at this cuck letting other men bang his gf/wife I'm clearly better than him!"


This
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thanosibe
10/10/17 1:12:05 PM
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Darkman124 posted...
thanosibe posted...
That seems pretty common sense. But if you date/are with a person for a reasonable length of time I would think that you could feel out if a person is for an open relationship before it gets too serious. Or just straight out ask. Like kids are sometimes a deal breaker for two people before it gets serious. How does one out the blue spring "hey lets f*** other people" to someone they've been monogamous with?

It's an honest inquiry since you've been in the situation. Not trying to troll.


imo there is no way to ask that doesnt have the potential for hurt feelings

my wife asked me once, noting in part that she wants to watch me fuck other people and in part that she has only ever been with me and is curious what it's like with others

i said no for the above reasons, and because i have mostly lost interest in fucking other women so there's nothing in it for me

it wasn't a pleasant conversation but she wasn't pushy or demanding and accepted my answer of 'no'

with the ex i opened things up with, she also asked. at the time i was pretty young and still around lots of other women all the time, so i was enthusiastic about the idea and ignorant of how she'd react to it
Wow. I'm not sure how I'd react to my wife asking me that. At really any point in our marriage. It just seems like a thing that is always something in your mind, not something that you are finally like, "hey I want to do this" so if my wife were to ask this, my paranoia would go off the charts wondering all the what if's up to that point that she might have done if this is how she feels now.

If you want to answer, are you still with your wife after she asked that?
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philsov
10/10/17 1:12:38 PM
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patriarchal oppression essentially boils down to a mans fear that a woman with sexual agency is a woman he cant control. We arent afraid of their intellect or their spirit or their ability to bear children. We are afraid that when it comes time for sex, they wont choose us.


QFT

that said, monogamy is a two way street. Its not only the husband controlling his wifes sexual expression, but also the wife with the man.
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Darkman124
10/10/17 1:28:35 PM
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thanosibe posted...
Wow. I'm not sure how I'd react to my wife asking me that. At really any point in our marriage. It just seems like a thing that is always something in your mind, not something that you are finally like, "hey I want to do this" so if my wife were to ask this, my paranoia would go off the charts wondering all the what if's up to that point that she might have done if this is how she feels now.

If you want to answer, are you still with your wife after she asked that?


yeah

we've fucked in front of people before at a swinger's club so it's not completely out of the blue

like i said, i told her no and that was where it ended. it wasn't a pleasant conversation, but it wasn't one that broke us.
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thanosibe
10/10/17 1:33:31 PM
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Darkman124 posted...
thanosibe posted...
Wow. I'm not sure how I'd react to my wife asking me that. At really any point in our marriage. It just seems like a thing that is always something in your mind, not something that you are finally like, "hey I want to do this" so if my wife were to ask this, my paranoia would go off the charts wondering all the what if's up to that point that she might have done if this is how she feels now.

If you want to answer, are you still with your wife after she asked that?


yeah

we've fucked in front of people before at a swinger's club so it's not completely out of the blue

like i said, i told her no and that was where it ended. it wasn't a pleasant conversation, but it wasn't one that broke us.
You two seem to have a good strong relationship. I'd hope I could be as unflappable as you seemed to in the same situation.
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Tsukasa1891
10/10/17 3:49:57 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Why bother even getting married?

Social pressure/expectations we've had beaten into are heads since we were born and tax breaks.
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Cleo_II
10/10/17 4:02:46 PM
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I dont get why anyone would care what anyone does in their personal life, so long as they arent hurting anyone or breaking any laws.
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Offworlder1
10/10/17 4:14:59 PM
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They would do better not even being married, hooking up woth random strangers frequently is asking for trouble. Are both of them so uncreative in the bedroom they need new people to bang all the time to be excited ?

I do laugh at how modern feminism means fucking a bunch of random dudes and not being faithful for this article.
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