Current Events > Fat people, why aren't you losing weight?

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FightingGames posted...

Herugrim posted...

Healthy food is more expensive. $6.99 for a basic salad.

it's only expensive if you buy it pre-prepared which should never be the case. A homemade salad should cost less than a dollar and it is literally the easiest thing you can prepare yourself

Not if you want to add protein but the cost, for most people, isn't the real reason. As someone who has lost 110lbs, the reason is that it take a lot of discipline. Lots of people have to go from minimal cooking to more cooking. You have to start tracking your food (calorie counting works btw) and/or significantly changing your diet (less carbs/sugar/bad fats to higher protein/fiber/healthy fats).

While its a bad excuse typically, most people are fat, in part, because of their genetics/gut flora/non-lifestyle factors so it takes more strict dieting/exercise to get down to a manageable weight. Its the difference between a kid being financially successful out of a low income family vs. a kid from an upper-middle class one. Its easy for the person who just has to avoid the occasional donut to stay relatively lean to tell the person who needs to follow a pretty strict diet to not gain weight to lose it via a simple change or to.
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It's just not a priority for me right now. I know I'm fat. I don't get offended if someone brings it up. I prefer to have tasty food on hand then a skinny body. It also helps that I have a hard core gaining fetish that I do my best to suppress.

That being said I do limit myself and keep myself from getting too big as I value my mobility and would be beyond sad if my weight ever got in the way of my dancing or other things I do with friends.

Over all I have looked at my life and thought a lot about what type of person I am, and what I like and dislike. I'm in a pretty good place now life wise and don't feel like my body detracts from my quality of life at all.

I'm not delusional in thinking that being fat and being healthy is possible, but I am in decent shape and can keep up with my much smaller friends with no issues.I just really love cooking tasty foods for myself and my family too much.

I'm expecting a pretty heavy (Pun intended) flame war coming to me from my comments but I felt it was valid to put myself out there.

"fat" is also a funny term to me, like I'm way overweight but because I care my weight fairly well 90% of people I would meet wouldn't actually call me fat lol, weight is funny like that.
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philsov posted...

~31 lbs in ~24 weeks is actually quite good, especially considering the occasional "fuck it" day! It's a sustainable pace that you can grind out for a long time, and then ratchet back up to caloric maintenance once you're at a bf% that's ideal.

I was walking around 5+ miles 5+ times a week so I think even with the fuck it days I was doing fine. I maintained this behavior for two or so months before I dropped the ball. I've gained back 5 or 6lbs since then.

philsov posted...

Point of psychology here, but try and frame it differently. You can eat those foods, but you are someone who does not eat these foods, at least yet. Turn it into an affirmation instead of a denial and it'll take a lesser toll on you.

That's a good way to look at it.

philsov posted...

Besides, either your skinny friends have a more active lifestyle than you, or eat very little when they're at home or something. "Fast metabolism" is a play of maybe 100 extra calories burned a day and hardly significant regarding one's fat vs intake levels.

Well my house mate for instance probably walks a mile or two a day 5 days a week and eats mostly whatever he wants, but still, I'm not measuring his calories or how often he eats so he probably just eats less often than me.

I know one guy who ate like two large pizzas 4+ times a week who didn't do any exercise who is skinny af :(
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because I don't care anymore!!
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Teen Girl Squad posted...

While its a bad excuse typically, most people are fat, in part, because of their genetics/gut flora/non-lifestyle factors so it takes more strict dieting/exercise to get down to a manageable weight. Its the difference between a kid being financially successful out of a low income family vs. a kid from an upper-middle class one. Its easy for the person who just has to avoid the occasional donut to stay relatively lean to tell the person who needs to follow a pretty strict diet to not gain weight to lose it via a simple change or to.

Bullshit, variance in BMR has a standard deviation of +/- 150 calories, i.e. people's metabolisms are incredibly uniform barring actual, unique health cases.

People are fucking lazy and/or don't care, plain and simple, and it has a massive fucking impact on healthcare, climate change, and global warming. People need to lose the fucking weight already.

clearaflagrantj posted...

Teen Girl Squad posted...

While its a bad excuse typically, most people are fat, in part, because of their genetics/gut flora/non-lifestyle factors so it takes more strict dieting/exercise to get down to a manageable weight. Its the difference between a kid being financially successful out of a low income family vs. a kid from an upper-middle class one. Its easy for the person who just has to avoid the occasional donut to stay relatively lean to tell the person who needs to follow a pretty strict diet to not gain weight to lose it via a simple change or to.

Bullshit, variance in BMR has a standard deviation of +/- 150 calories, i.e. people's metabolisms are incredibly uniform barring actual, unique health cases.

People are fucking lazy and/or don't care, plain and simple, and it has a massive fucking impact on healthcare, climate change, and global warming. People need to lose the fucking weight already.

I think you are both wrong.

Lifestyle factors are the most relevant issue

It is not about being lazy or not caring either though
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Balrog0 posted...

Lifestyle factors are the most relevant issue

It is not about being lazy or not caring either though

Being lazy IS a lifestyle factor ffs.

Who said it wasn't? I don't think laziness explains nearly anything in this situation. many fat people are motivated in other areas of their lives
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In America's case its mostly marketing and bad supplements put into staple foods like bread.
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Hmm, for the first time in two years I am just "overweight" and not "obese".

Woo.
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Trine to man.

It's why I've been so hungry lately.
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Once you get a nice body and you're happy with how you look, it's hard to put yourself in that bad spot again. At least for me
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emblem boy posted...

Once you get a nice body and you're happy with how you look, it's hard to put yourself in that bad spot again. At least for me

Same here. I could never go back to being obese let alone overweight again. It would drive me crazy, and I'd never let it get that bad again willingly.
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Twin3Turbo posted...

Herugrim posted...

Healthy food is more expensive.

I get real tired of people saying this because it's simply not true.

I went from over 340 to 215 and I'm still losing

But why do you care

clearaflagrantj posted...

Teen Girl Squad posted...

While its a bad excuse typically, most people are fat, in part, because of their genetics/gut flora/non-lifestyle factors so it takes more strict dieting/exercise to get down to a manageable weight. Its the difference between a kid being financially successful out of a low income family vs. a kid from an upper-middle class one. Its easy for the person who just has to avoid the occasional donut to stay relatively lean to tell the person who needs to follow a pretty strict diet to not gain weight to lose it via a simple change or to.

Bullshit, variance in BMR has a standard deviation of +/- 150 calories, i.e. people's metabolisms are incredibly uniform barring actual, unique health cases.

People are fucking lazy and/or don't care, plain and simple, and it has a massive fucking impact on healthcare, climate change, and global warming. People need to lose the fucking weight already.

Closer to 220 Cal actually. Also, check your units. There are some particularly damaging health disorders that prevent people from losing weight. My wife had one. She had surgery to fix it.

People don't count their calories correctly. They don't weigh their food. Even if they do properly weigh the food, the numbers on the package could be off by as much as 20%.

We need to calculate our TDEE. This can prove to be difficult because most people overestimate their activity level multiplier. So, we've got people who are either bad at math or unwilling to put in the work. This could still work if they were willing to track the information. Do something for a month. Did it work? If yes, keep doing it. If not, drop your daily intake by 200 Cal and check again next month. Eventually, you will find the intake necessary to lose weight.

I can't say anything really. I'm 6'4", and I currently weigh 250 lbs. I started the year at 280 lbs. I started lifting weights. My weigh loss has stalled for a few months, but my lifts have increased significantly. Even though I enjoy lifting heavier weights, I'm about to drop some more Cal from my diet.

I work in an office job and do heavy weight lifting as well as 1-2 days of steady state cardio. My exercise days are about 1 hour of almost constant work, with very little rest time. I'm not checking my phone or talking between exercises. I exercise to the point where it is difficult to breathe at the end of every set. My TDEE is estimated to be about 3200 Cal.

I have. Over the past four months, I've lost ~25 pounds. Not as quickly as I would like, but I don't really know much about working out or managing caloric intake. I just altered what I ate and cut back on how much of it I eat.

It's only the past three weeks that I started going to the fitness center 3 days a week for 1 - 2 hours each day. Mostly treadmill and elliptical, but a little weight lifting in between.
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cause food is good and life is shit. I'd rather just eat whatever whenever and not have to worry or obsess over it
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Esrac posted...

I have. Over the past four months, I've lost ~25 pounds. Not as quickly as I would like, but I don't really know much about working out or managing caloric intake. I just altered what I ate and cut back on how much of it I eat.

It's only the past three weeks that I started going to the fitness center 3 days a week for 1 - 2 hours each day. Mostly treadmill and elliptical, but a little weight lifting in between.

Just as an aside, definitely move into lifting more eventually. It actually helps you lose weight as counter-intuitive as it might seem.. I went from 190 to 160 in about 4 months and I only did cardio once or twice a week max, usually only once. I lifted the other 3-4 days.
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Twin3Turbo posted...

Esrac posted...

I have. Over the past four months, I've lost ~25 pounds. Not as quickly as I would like, but I don't really know much about working out or managing caloric intake. I just altered what I ate and cut back on how much of it I eat.

It's only the past three weeks that I started going to the fitness center 3 days a week for 1 - 2 hours each day. Mostly treadmill and elliptical, but a little weight lifting in between.

Just as an aside, definitely move into lifting more eventually. It actually helps you lose weight as counter-intuitive as it might seem.. I went from 190 to 160 in about 4 months and I only did cardio once or twice a week max, usually only once. I lifted the other 3-4 days.

See, I want to lose weight to enlist in the Navy. I'm too heavy and fat, you see. The recruiters recommended cardio to lose the weight, rather than weight lifting. Muscle building would come later, they said.
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Also, I'm a total newbie when it comes to working out. I don't know if it's better to do fewer reps at higher weight or more reps at lower weight.
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Esrac posted...

The recruiters recommended cardio to lose the weight, rather than weight lifting. Muscle building would come later, they said.

Ideally it's both, but between the two lifting weights is better for weight loss in the long run as the muscle you slowly add will increase your baseline metabolism and a good weightliifting session burns about the same calories as a cardio session, if we assume ~1 hr of lifting instead of <30 minutes of cardio. Start establishing some compounding interest!

Esrac posted...

I don't know if it's better to do fewer reps at higher weight or more reps at lower weight.

tbh, if your goal is general weight loss and muscle gain then the difference is minimal. Towards the low end (5) your strength with increase more, and towards the high end your endurance will increase. Hypertrophy is merely the result of muscle fatigue and occurs at all reps range assuming they are indeed getting fatigued.Literally just pick a number between 5 and 12 and stick with it. Be proactive with the weight on the bar (or machine, or whatever) and aim for linear progress.

If your goal is 12 reps, and you just banged out 3 sets of 12 reps at 80 lbs, next session make it 85 lbs and go for 12 again. Once you hit 12 again, make it 90. If you can't hit 12 reps at 90 after three sessions in a row then ratchet down to about 85% of your working weight and resume linear progress. Ideally, be proactive with your cardio too. Cranked out 2.5 miles in 24 minutes? Make it 23:45 next time~
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JustMyOpinion posted...

FrenchCrunch posted...

I went from over 340 to 215 and I'm still losing

But why do you care

Why do you care that he cares?

i have an emotional stake in topics like this. cant help it, im sensitive and i dont think he's been where ive been

Hey fat people, doesn't it bother you that you're unattractive? Is it not worth it to lose weight to have sexy partners?

(not trying to attack, just wondering)
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Colorahdo posted...

Hey fat people, doesn't it bother you that you're unattractive? Is it not worth it to lose weight to have sexy partners?

(not trying to attack, just wondering)

when i was really big it bothered me every single day. not that i was unattractive for other people tho. i could give a fuck about that. i was unattractive to myself. now even though people think i weigh under 200 and i get compliments, i still despise how i look and am working hard to fix it

Colorahdo posted...

Hey fat people, doesn't it bother you that you're unattractive? Is it not worth it to lose weight to have sexy partners?

(not trying to attack, just wondering)

I don't think getting in good shape is the best way for men to pursue that goal
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FrenchCrunch posted...

i have an emotional stake in topics like this. cant help it, im sensitive and i dont think he's been where ive been

You literally should not care what a dumb internet troll thinks of you.

Colorahdo posted...

Hey fat people, doesn't it bother you that you're unattractive? Is it not worth it to lose weight to have sexy partners?

(not trying to attack, just wondering)

I know right.

Especially in this day and age where 90% of the population is overweight. Being thin is almost enough to be seen as attractive on its own.

clearaflagrantj posted...

You literally should not care what a dumb internet troll thinks of you.

you shouldnt care about 99% of the shit you post here

Balrog0 posted...

Colorahdo posted...

Hey fat people, doesn't it bother you that you're unattractive? Is it not worth it to lose weight to have sexy partners?

(not trying to attack, just wondering)

I don't think getting in good shape is the best way for men to pursue that goal

You don't think being in good shape is the #1 thing that attracts attractive partners? What hot girl wants a guy whose belly button hangs over his belt?
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Colorahdo posted...

You don't think being in good shape is the #1 thing that attracts attractive partners? What hot girl wants a guy whose belly button hangs over his belt?

nope, not at all

source: I've been fat and poor and then in shape and poor and then fat and rich

well not rich at all but much more financially successful with a much more impressive career
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as a tangent, all of the most in-shape girls I know actually prefer bigger guys (guts and guns)

but most very athletic women arent that attractive
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Why do multiple "i hate fat people" topics have to be made on CE every single day?
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