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butthole666
10/08/17 6:32:36 PM
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Just make it play like battlefield ffs
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Skywalker82
10/08/17 6:35:09 PM
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I'm not a fan of the beta map. After playing more last night I had fun, after not liking it. Really wish the game had destruction.
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butthole666
10/08/17 6:35:09 PM
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No crouching

No secondaries

Why
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Skywalker82
10/08/17 6:36:35 PM
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No proning is lame, and I'm not sure why secondary weapons are timed skills.
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butthole666
10/08/17 6:37:02 PM
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Why is all the fucking text so tiny
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prince_leo
10/08/17 6:37:10 PM
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gmanthebest
10/08/17 6:38:12 PM
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butthole666 posted...
No crouching

Wut?
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KnightofShikari
10/08/17 6:38:15 PM
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progression tied to lootboxes

i repeat

the ability to get better weapons and items in the game is tied to a RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR that you know will be super unfair to the player
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Tmaster148
10/08/17 6:40:33 PM
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KnightofShikari posted...
the ability to get better weapons and items in the game is tied to a RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR that you know will be super unfair to the player


unfortunately this is becoming an increasingly more common thing in multiplayer games, because it makes money.
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MabusIncarnate
10/08/17 6:40:51 PM
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gmanthebest posted...
butthole666 posted...
No crouching

Wut?

Did you play the game? Yes, you can crouch, lol.
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butthole666
10/08/17 6:42:04 PM
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turns out crouching is just weirdly unresponsive, my b
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prince_leo
10/08/17 6:43:21 PM
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KnightofShikari posted...
progression tied to lootboxes

i repeat

the ability to get better weapons and items in the game is tied to a RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR that you know will be super unfair to the player

I agree that this is the biggest issue
I'm ok with lootcrates and tbh the star cards really don't offer enough of an edge that skill and luck don't beat 9/10 times, but being level 4 in a class you use all the time and level 10 in a class you don't is dumb af
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butthole666
10/08/17 6:45:17 PM
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Literally just needs to be battlefield and they still fucked it up
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Virus731
10/08/17 6:47:01 PM
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KnightofShikari posted...
progression tied to lootboxes

i repeat

the ability to get better weapons and items in the game is tied to a RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR that you know will be super unfair to the player


A) It's not hard to beat anyone with any gun
B) If it wasn't for the lootboxes they'd have to split the community with a season pass which you'd proceed to bitch about too
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butthole666
10/08/17 6:48:31 PM
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Virus731 posted...
KnightofShikari posted...
progression tied to lootboxes

i repeat

the ability to get better weapons and items in the game is tied to a RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR that you know will be super unfair to the player


A) It's not hard to beat anyone with any gun
B) If it wasn't for the lootboxes they'd have to split the community with a season pass which you'd proceed to bitch about too

Yeah they'd totally "have to"

Or EA could just not be fucking greedy
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Mystery_Mission
10/08/17 6:49:48 PM
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butthole666 posted...
Virus731 posted...
KnightofShikari posted...
progression tied to lootboxes

i repeat

the ability to get better weapons and items in the game is tied to a RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR that you know will be super unfair to the player


A) It's not hard to beat anyone with any gun
B) If it wasn't for the lootboxes they'd have to split the community with a season pass which you'd proceed to bitch about too

Yeah they'd totally "have to"

Or EA could just not be fucking greedy


i don't think you realize how much it costs to make and then maintain games champ. it's a necessary evil.
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alphagamble
10/08/17 6:50:57 PM
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I liked the space combat with the tie fighters but I could leave the rest tbh

And what's with the squads? It seems like I'm just randomly assigned to a team every time I spawn
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Delta_F14
10/08/17 6:51:14 PM
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Mystery_Mission posted...
butthole666 posted...
Virus731 posted...
KnightofShikari posted...
progression tied to lootboxes

i repeat

the ability to get better weapons and items in the game is tied to a RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR that you know will be super unfair to the player


A) It's not hard to beat anyone with any gun
B) If it wasn't for the lootboxes they'd have to split the community with a season pass which you'd proceed to bitch about too

Yeah they'd totally "have to"

Or EA could just not be fucking greedy


i don't think you realize how much it costs to make and then maintain games champ. it's a necessary evil.

People like you are the reason why pay-to-win is becoming commonplace in $60 games.
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Skywalker82
10/08/17 6:52:34 PM
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alphagamble posted...
I liked the space combat with the tie fighters but I could leave the rest tbh

And what's with the squads? It seems like I'm just randomly assigned to a team every time I spawn


Having fixed squads like Battlefield 1 with voice chat would be much better.
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Soviet_Poland
10/08/17 6:56:08 PM
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alphagamble posted...
I liked the space combat with the tie fighters but I could leave the rest tbh

And what's with the squads? It seems like I'm just randomly assigned to a team every time I spawn


Squad bonuses for sticking together. Promotes some degree of team play intrinsically rather than matches being 20v20 lone wolves.

Puts you in a random one each death because respawn is timed or until new squad is filled.
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MabusIncarnate
10/08/17 7:05:10 PM
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Delta_F14 posted...
Mystery_Mission posted...
butthole666 posted...
Virus731 posted...
KnightofShikari posted...
progression tied to lootboxes

i repeat

the ability to get better weapons and items in the game is tied to a RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR that you know will be super unfair to the player


A) It's not hard to beat anyone with any gun
B) If it wasn't for the lootboxes they'd have to split the community with a season pass which you'd proceed to bitch about too

Yeah they'd totally "have to"

Or EA could just not be fucking greedy


i don't think you realize how much it costs to make and then maintain games champ. it's a necessary evil.

People like you are the reason why pay-to-win is becoming commonplace in $60 games.

People like you don't realize that the price of a new game would go up to $90 to $100 each instead of $60 if they didn't offer optional microtransactions that some people are fine with paying for and keeps the price of the base game down. Then people like you would bitch that the price of games have gone up.
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Soviet_Poland
10/08/17 7:18:19 PM
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butthole666 posted...
Or EA could just not be fucking greedy


I mean....they're a business.

How naive do you have to be?

Is it a "shitty practice?" Yeah, but you totally have a choice not to partake. But sitting here and expecting otherwise just seems childish.
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Virus731
10/08/17 7:19:01 PM
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Delta_F14 posted...
People like you are the reason why pay-to-win is becoming commonplace in $60 games.


lol twelvie confirmed
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Skywalker82
10/08/17 7:49:13 PM
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Would you guys rather have DLC or the way that it is right now?

Im not sure either way.
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Virus731
10/08/17 7:50:27 PM
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Skywalker82 posted...
Would you guys rather have DLC or the way that it is right now?

Im not sure either way.


I've only just begun to play the beta now (been away all weekend) and tbh I'd take either system attached to a good game but that's too much to ask.
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gmanthebest
10/09/17 5:38:14 AM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
gmanthebest posted...
butthole666 posted...
No crouching

Wut?

Did you play the game? Yes, you can crouch, lol.

I did, that's why I said wut
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Aristoph
10/09/17 5:46:20 AM
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butthole666 posted...
turns out crouching is just weirdly unresponsive, my b


It's not "unresponsive." It's set by default to HOLD rather than TOGGLE like a sane person would use. You can change it in the settings (at least on PC you can, I assume it's possible on console too).
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Link HT
10/09/17 5:47:28 AM
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There are people in this topic defending progression through lootboxes.

Not only is it a shitty random system, you can simply buy lootboxes to progress. You can buy yourself better equipment and do more damage than other players, and these people are okay with it.

No wonder this shit is commonplace, you guys eat this shit up.

MabusIncarnate posted...
People like you don't realize that the price of a new game would go up to $90 to $100 each instead of $60 if they didn't offer optional microtransactions that some people are fine with paying for and keeps the price of the base game down. Then people like you would bitch that the price of games have gone up.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OMG
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Skywalker82
10/09/17 8:36:29 AM
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I don't have that big of a problem with it as some of you guys. For the standard troopers, you die easily no matter what. The game is more about positioning than outplaying someone in a gun fight.

The strongest upgrade is saw was for the general which makes your gun shoot four shots and adds explosive rounds. The real issue is with the heros. They have really strong upgrades.
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Mystery_Mission
10/09/17 6:29:27 PM
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Link HT posted...
There are people in this topic defending progression through lootboxes.

Not only is it a shitty random system, you can simply buy lootboxes to progress. You can buy yourself better equipment and do more damage than other players, and these people are okay with it.

No wonder this shit is commonplace, you guys eat this shit up.

MabusIncarnate posted...
People like you don't realize that the price of a new game would go up to $90 to $100 each instead of $60 if they didn't offer optional microtransactions that some people are fine with paying for and keeps the price of the base game down. Then people like you would bitch that the price of games have gone up.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OMG


No one is necessarily defending the loot box system in battlefront 2. it was more of a conversation on micro-transactions. Mabus is absolutely right in what he posted.
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prince_leo
10/09/17 7:55:36 PM
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yeah, it's realistic to expect a AAA game to now cost more than $60, but the community will rebel. so they do it with DLC, or more recently lootboxes. if they're gonna need more money for development, i'd prefer microtransactions that speed up progress than raising the base game price or splitting the playerbase with DLC, so for a multiplayer game it makes sense to use lootboxes
I still think they could improve the way it's handled, and i'm holding out hope that it will since the response has been so strong, but it's still fun even if a bit grindy as it is in the beta
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SlashmanSG
10/09/17 8:32:11 PM
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Aristoph posted...
butthole666 posted...
turns out crouching is just weirdly unresponsive, my b


It's not "unresponsive." It's set by default to HOLD rather than TOGGLE like a sane person would use. You can change it in the settings (at least on PC you can, I assume it's possible on console too).

On PC, Hold is left control, Toggle is X.
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MabusIncarnate
10/09/17 8:36:11 PM
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gmanthebest posted...
MabusIncarnate posted...
gmanthebest posted...
butthole666 posted...
No crouching

Wut?

Did you play the game? Yes, you can crouch, lol.

I did, that's why I said wut

No, I meant that in response to what TC said, idk why I quoted your post.
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butthole666
10/09/17 8:38:10 PM
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They've done an excellent job at making a game that looks like it's fun
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