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Leanaunfurled
10/11/17 2:35:21 PM
#304:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
I don't get what all the hoopla is about here.

Gunplagirl is essentially just arguing "I will use my own discretion as to what I tell people at myself" which I see no problem.

Caution was being overly defensive and acting like her position was actually "trans people should never tell their partners" which is not the impression I was getting. At the same time, he made points that were valid and not bigoted. "If you are rejected, the person wasn't worth it" is a fair point, and thinking of one's safety knowing how men have reacted violently is also important.

Any defensiveness and aggressive rhetoric on both sides aside, both sides seem relatively reasonable to me on their initial premises, though I don't agree with either "the men should be obligated to ask a girl is she is cis" or "If you don't disclose you're trans, you are a bad person" (both paraphrased off the top of my head).

My opinion would be in a middle ground here, and every trans person should use their best discretion as to how to approach the issue. If I wasn't told until later in the relationship, I wouldn't have a problem with it and I don't fell like it's something I "need" to know. Sayoria's position to disclose is perfectly fine as well. Whatever works for you with your own perception of the pros and cons in your own case with all risks on both sides considered and weighed.

And, from what I read, "I don't have to tell them crap if I don't want to." Which yes, while true, is extremely harmful and toxic in a serious relationship.

But frankly I'm used to seeing shit like that from negi/gunpla. I tell myself she's a really consistent troll.
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Kaname_Madoka
10/11/17 2:42:34 PM
#305:


Have fun with the boobs
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/11/17 2:42:59 PM
#306:


Caution999 posted...
..Except if one isn't told before the middle of a relationship, and the other party's dream was to always have their own child...
You're screwing them over.

But hey, let's pretend that's not a problem.


I can't relate to that so I personally have no cause to take it into consideration. That would be factor in the individual's discretion. My advice in that case would be to disclose, but I wouldn't judge a person for not doing so. "This could end very badly" is something I would say.

So fair point, but not one I would have otherwise thought about, as someone highly opposed to having kids.
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Eevee-Trainer
10/11/17 2:44:26 PM
#307:


Yeah, tbh, I lean with Caution here. (Pun intended.)

It would be nice if I wouldn't have to tell someone I was trans before entering into a relationship with them, but that's not the world we live in. For the most part, people are going to assume anyone reasonably presenting as a certain gender is cis, simply because being cisgender is a huge majority. It's not strictly right but it's going to happen, either through a lack of exposure to transpeople, a lack of forethought into the matter, or just a lack of care.

Being trans does make or break a relationship for some people. For some of them it bugs them on matters of sexuality (since some people view having sex with a transperson of the opposite gender as still being gay - whether or not that's a right view is irrelevant, the fact is it's a view and not uncommonly held). For others, it bugs them on the basis of reproduction (some people simply want their own genetic kids, and aren't willing to settle for adoption; I don't claim to understand it, but again it's just how some people feel). And of course there are always legitimate bigots out there that simply wouldn't date a transperson on the sole basis that they're trans.

And let's not forget the stories of people revealing they're trans during a relationship only to get the shit beaten out of them or otherwise killed.

It obviously brings up the question - at least to me - of why you would let yourself suffer such heartbreak? You get into a relationship for a long time - months, years even - and then end up revealing you're trans and have to break it off. The end was inevitable for that kind of relationship; good luck hiding something like that forever. Sure, some people might not break up with you, but some people also will. And if they're going to break up years in, they'll break up early in the relationship too.

It just makes more sense to not let yourself suffer heartbreak and potentially waste a long time with a person so readily. It would be better off to be open about such a critical factor in a relationship early on, rather than to hide it for a long time only to break up further down the road.

It would be nice if transpeople could just go around and reveal it solely at their own discretion without the fear of repercussion. But that's simply not the world we live in.

Granted, I'm just here to offer my opinion and stance on the matter. What people do in their own love lives is none of my business (unless they're dating me, and I obviously wouldn't mind if they were trans). I personally intend to be open about such a critical factor from the get-go. You do you.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/11/17 2:45:43 PM
#308:


Leanaunfurled posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
I don't get what all the hoopla is about here.

Gunplagirl is essentially just arguing "I will use my own discretion as to what I tell people at myself" which I see no problem.

Caution was being overly defensive and acting like her position was actually "trans people should never tell their partners" which is not the impression I was getting. At the same time, he made points that were valid and not bigoted. "If you are rejected, the person wasn't worth it" is a fair point, and thinking of one's safety knowing how men have reacted violently is also important.

Any defensiveness and aggressive rhetoric on both sides aside, both sides seem relatively reasonable to me on their initial premises, though I don't agree with either "the men should be obligated to ask a girl is she is cis" or "If you don't disclose you're trans, you are a bad person" (both paraphrased off the top of my head).

My opinion would be in a middle ground here, and every trans person should use their best discretion as to how to approach the issue. If I wasn't told until later in the relationship, I wouldn't have a problem with it and I don't fell like it's something I "need" to know. Sayoria's position to disclose is perfectly fine as well. Whatever works for you with your own perception of the pros and cons in your own case with all risks on both sides considered and weighed.

And, from what I read, "I don't have to tell them crap if I don't want to." Which yes, while true, is extremely harmful and toxic in a serious relationship.

But frankly I'm used to seeing shit like that from negi/gunpla. I tell myself she's a really consistent troll.


It just comes down to discretion and consequences. Of course it can be harmful and toxic, but so can anything not disclosed about a person. Some secrets never end well. Others just could possibly not end well. I find this to be in the latter category.
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Kaname_Madoka
10/11/17 2:46:52 PM
#309:


Blobs tho
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DragonGirlYuki
10/11/17 2:48:59 PM
#310:


Money is another big thing to be upfront with. A lot of times money becomes a relationship ending issue down the road.
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thelovefist
10/11/17 3:29:35 PM
#311:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Leanaunfurled posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
I don't get what all the hoopla is about here.

Gunplagirl is essentially just arguing "I will use my own discretion as to what I tell people at myself" which I see no problem.

Caution was being overly defensive and acting like her position was actually "trans people should never tell their partners" which is not the impression I was getting. At the same time, he made points that were valid and not bigoted. "If you are rejected, the person wasn't worth it" is a fair point, and thinking of one's safety knowing how men have reacted violently is also important.

Any defensiveness and aggressive rhetoric on both sides aside, both sides seem relatively reasonable to me on their initial premises, though I don't agree with either "the men should be obligated to ask a girl is she is cis" or "If you don't disclose you're trans, you are a bad person" (both paraphrased off the top of my head).

My opinion would be in a middle ground here, and every trans person should use their best discretion as to how to approach the issue. If I wasn't told until later in the relationship, I wouldn't have a problem with it and I don't fell like it's something I "need" to know. Sayoria's position to disclose is perfectly fine as well. Whatever works for you with your own perception of the pros and cons in your own case with all risks on both sides considered and weighed.

And, from what I read, "I don't have to tell them crap if I don't want to." Which yes, while true, is extremely harmful and toxic in a serious relationship.

But frankly I'm used to seeing shit like that from negi/gunpla. I tell myself she's a really consistent troll.


It just comes down to discretion and consequences. Of course it can be harmful and toxic, but so can anything not disclosed about a person. Some secrets never end well. Others just could possibly not end well. I find this to be in the latter category.

Gunplagirl isn't a troll. They genuinely believe in what they say.
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DragonGirlYuki
10/11/17 3:42:30 PM
#312:


Well did she said she likes multiple partners?
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Kaname_Madoka
10/11/17 4:23:58 PM
#313:


Up
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Eevee-Trainer
10/11/17 5:04:57 PM
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Bewbs
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Foppe
10/11/17 5:25:27 PM
#316:


Since this topic went places and I dont feel like looking at all those pages, how did it go?
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Sylph
10/11/17 5:28:37 PM
#317:


Many boobs were had, things turned out for the breast.
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DragonGirlYuki
10/11/17 5:32:28 PM
#318:


I liked the part when we went off road and did some political mudding.
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gunplagirl
10/11/17 7:03:54 PM
#319:


I hate to report it, but the cis are at it again
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gunplagirl
10/11/17 7:04:52 PM
#320:


DragonGirlYuki posted...
I liked the part when we went off road and did some political mudding.

Truckasaurus made a, cameo at 23:47 in the background if you pause and magnify the top right corner of the screen
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hockeybub89
10/11/17 7:05:52 PM
#321:


gunplagirl posted...
I hate to report it, but the cis are at it again

Stop.
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gunplagirl
10/11/17 7:11:06 PM
#322:


hockeybub89 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
I hate to report it, but the cis are at it again

Stop.

I wish they would
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DragonGirlYuki
10/11/17 7:17:42 PM
#323:


Some of us are uncomfortable starting and ending a relationship on a lie too. Not to mention it is a complete waste of everyone's time.
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gunplagirl
10/11/17 7:30:35 PM
#324:


I mean, everyone is going to die and the odds that anyone besides our family will know we ever existed in 2 generations time is depressing. But I wouldn't say living is a waste of time. After all, it's not like I can enjoy dank memes when I'm cremated and spread all over the place. At least, I doubt it.
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--kresnik--
10/11/17 7:31:24 PM
#325:


hockeybub89 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
I hate to report it, but the cis are at it again

Stop.


Now I know you're a joke account. Oops, I meant to quote gunplaygirl.
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Foppe
10/12/17 1:08:57 AM
#326:


Sylph posted...
Many boobs were had, things turned out for the breast.

They got living demonstration units so you can feel the end result with different cup sizes, making it easier to pick the right size?
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C_Pain
10/12/17 1:09:21 AM
#327:


Are you gonna keep your existing nipples or get new ones?
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Sayoria
10/12/17 1:17:19 AM
#328:


C_Pain posted...
Are you gonna keep your existing nipples or get new ones?


Probably keep them. The nipples look fine.
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gwwak
10/12/17 1:44:55 AM
#329:


I forgot (more like too lazy) to switch accounts.
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C_Pain
10/12/17 1:45:53 AM
#330:


Sayoria posted...
C_Pain posted...
Are you gonna keep your existing nipples or get new ones?


Probably keep them. The nipples look fine.

This is your chance to change everything. Let me refer you to our nipple catalogue.
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ssj3vegeta_
10/13/17 9:04:26 AM
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MI4 REAL
10/13/17 9:06:48 AM
#332:


Autumn...

Is that a coincidence? Or is that really your name?
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OpheliaAdenade
10/13/17 9:09:15 AM
#333:


do they let you pick the color of your nipples? :v I think pink is the most attractive color. No one wants brown nipples.
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Sayoria
10/13/17 11:05:24 AM
#334:


MI4 REAL posted...
Autumn...

Is that a coincidence? Or is that really your name?

Coincidence in what way?

OpheliaAdenade posted...
do they let you pick the color of your nipples? :v I think pink is the most attractive color. No one wants brown nipples.


Huh? No.
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OpheliaAdenade
10/13/17 11:06:30 AM
#335:


If you're paying that much money they should at least let you pick your nipple color. :/ You shouldn't come out of such an expensive surgery with a nipple color you don't want.
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Sayoria
10/13/17 11:08:03 AM
#336:


What do you mean "pick your color"? I've never heard of such an assumption.
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OpheliaAdenade
10/13/17 11:09:23 AM
#337:


Sayoria posted...
What do you mean "pick your color"? I've never heard of such an assumption.


Some people have brown nipples, some have cream colored nipples, and some have pink nipples. Not sure what determines it exactly. Think you're just born with a certain color?
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Sayoria
10/13/17 11:20:34 AM
#338:


OpheliaAdenade posted...
Sayoria posted...
What do you mean "pick your color"? I've never heard of such an assumption.


Some people have brown nipples, some have cream colored nipples, and some have pink nipples. Not sure what determines it exactly. Think you're just born with a certain color?


I mean changing them willingly.
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Behaviorism
10/13/17 11:25:46 AM
#339:


Seriously CE? A 500 topic?
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Sayoria
10/13/17 11:27:45 AM
#340:


Behaviorism posted...
Seriously CE? A 500 topic?


TO 500!
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/13/17 2:26:41 PM
#341:


Sayoria posted...
Behaviorism posted...
Seriously CE? A 500 topic?


TO 500!

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Kaname_Madoka
10/13/17 2:32:01 PM
#342:


Open boobs
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Sayoria
10/13/17 6:34:36 PM
#343:


Bump for enhancing one's self
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RNGenie
10/14/17 12:14:19 AM
#344:


Bump for educational purposes.
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gwwak
10/14/17 12:15:27 AM
#345:


I forgot to switch accounts.
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Foppe
10/14/17 1:17:22 AM
#346:


More boobs to the people.
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gunplagirl
10/14/17 1:42:08 PM
#347:


--kresnik-- posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
I hate to report it, but the cis are at it again

Stop.


Now I know you're a joke account. Oops, I meant to quote gunplaygirl.

gunpla

It's a hobby and totally something I'd spend more on but video games are my primary hobby. But at least you're paying for my boobs as well so thanks. Maybe I'll spend the difference it would have been out of pocket on some models.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/14/17 6:35:08 PM
#348:


Bump so that kresnik remembers to shell out even more sweet, seculent tax moneys when Sayoria is getting a vagina.
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Eevee-Trainer
10/14/17 6:43:07 PM
#349:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Bump so that kresnik remembers to shell out even more sweet, seculent tax moneys when Sayoria is getting a vagina.

@Payzmaykr your people are calling
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MI4 REAL
10/15/17 12:32:54 AM
#350:


It just became Autumn (the season)

I forgot that I actually posted that. Either way, it's a nice name.
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ssj3vegeta_
10/18/17 8:06:54 PM
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Sayoria posted...
Behaviorism posted...
Seriously CE? A 500 topic?


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