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alt_no_1_loves 10/06/17 2:10:32 PM #1: |
I don't want to post the video (not sure if we can), but I just watched it on Vice.
I understand it all happened very fast, but how the fuck do you justify shooting a guy that is running away? Running towards you, ok, but running away? --- sig poll: buzz cola or duff beer 0 - 1 thus far (after like 2 years) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Foppe 10/06/17 2:12:22 PM #2: |
Because he was clearly running to get guns.
Anyway,caint shooting somebody in the back murder? --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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alt_no_1_loves 10/06/17 2:16:39 PM #4: |
mobilebloechel posted...
Don't fucking run from police, how hard is this to understand Don't run from the police, sure. But I don't see how that in the slightest justifies shooting someone that does it. --- sig poll: buzz cola or duff beer 0 - 1 thus far (after like 2 years) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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alt_no_1_loves 10/06/17 2:17:25 PM #6: |
Foppe posted...
Anyway,caint shooting somebody in the back murder? Not if you're the police and you say it was self defense (which is what happened in this case) --- sig poll: buzz cola or duff beer 0 - 1 thus far (after like 2 years) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Eat More Beef 10/06/17 2:19:23 PM #7: |
mobilebloechel posted...
Don't fucking run from police, how hard is this to understand Here's what i dont understand about this argument (and I'm not saying this particular user supports the 2nd amendment): why have guns when you're suplosed to just shut up and do what the government says. The right to bare firearms is there to stop a tyrannical or corrupt government, right? So, is he too not justified from running away/taking a stand if he feels his rights are being infrindged? Dont run away/Dont own guns should boil down to the same thing, no? --- I wrote a horror short story collection. You can check it out, and other free short stories at http://www.aarondeck.com ... Copied to Clipboard!
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alt_no_1_loves 10/06/17 2:20:42 PM #8: |
mobilebloechel posted...
They usually literally tell you that you will get shot In this instance, the officer does yell "I'll fucking shoot you" as he shoots the guy. But I don't think "if you run we will shoot you" is how encounters with the police generally start, nor would that response be remotely justified anyway. --- sig poll: buzz cola or duff beer 0 - 1 thus far (after like 2 years) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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frozenshock 10/06/17 2:20:48 PM #9: |
I think there's something called the fleeing felon rule in some cases... the cops are authorized to shoot you if they think you're fleeing from them
Happens a lot with cars, like if they signal you to stop but you didn't see them or if you thought they signaled another car, they can riddle you with bullets --- I don't hate people, people hate me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordRazziel 10/06/17 2:22:19 PM #10: |
mobilebloechel posted...
They usually literally tell you that you will get shot They aren't alone to shoot you just for running. The whole "stop or I'll shoot" is a movie thing. --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 10/06/17 2:25:58 PM #11: |
I found the video.
I have no fucking clue why he would try to run there, but I didn't see a knife anywhere. I just feel like police shouldn't just be able to shoot someone without warning them like that though, especially someone running away --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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alt_no_1_loves 10/06/17 2:39:32 PM #12: |
The article (and the officer speaking in the beginning) says he had outstanding warrants, which is presumably a factor in why he was so upset. Was pulled over because his bike had no lights and he cut across traffic, but it was going to result in a whole lot more because of the outstanding warrant. Trying to run was obviously a piss poor solution, but he was clearly distraught and thus not in the best position to make a fully rational decision there.
Similarly, I acknowledge that the decision to shoot is a snap decision in a high stress situation. But I don't think that excuses it. That it happens so often is as clear a sign as any that reforms are needed regarding police training and equipment. And that this officer, like so many others, was acquitted/not charged is a similarly clear sign of a dysfunctional system that won't get any better without thoughtful reforms. --- sig poll: buzz cola or duff beer 0 - 1 thus far (after like 2 years) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Samurontai 10/06/17 2:40:50 PM #13: |
Shooting someone who is unarmed and running from you is about the scummiest thing you could possibly do
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ModLogic 10/07/17 9:58:32 PM #14: |
alt_no_1_loves posted...
he had outstanding warrants, which is presumably a factor in why he was so upset. Was pulled over because his bike had no lights and he cut across traffic fair next --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Inferno Dive Dragoon 10/07/17 10:04:35 PM #15: |
Not surprised if he ran, it's perfectly justified to fear for your life when dealing with rabid boars.
Sure as shit, they gunned him down without a second thought. Pigs gonna oink. --- Les aristocrates a la lanterne! Les aristocrates on les pendra! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xelltrix 10/07/17 10:11:55 PM #16: |
Boy howdy, punching a neonazi is bad but literally killing a fleeing non-violent criminal is aokay.
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ModLogic 10/07/17 10:13:25 PM #17: |
its best case scenario actually. would you prefer this piece of shit escaped so he could run over a kid later?
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CADE FOSTER 10/07/17 10:16:16 PM #18: |
Cops are fucking lunatics now no adequate training most cant shoot for shit so the have to empty the gun everytime need better training and better deescalation training
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butthole666 10/07/17 10:17:35 PM #19: |
mobilebloechel posted...
They usually literally tell you that you will get shot Real life is not like videogames where police can shoot you for not being a threat. --- "Kenan & Kel is what made me realize I wasn't racist." ~ NewportBox100s ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 10/07/17 10:18:36 PM #20: |
mobilebloechel posted...
Don't fucking run from police, how hard is this to understand America where running from the cops mean you can be shot in the back. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DirkDiggles 10/07/17 10:18:44 PM #21: |
Samurontai posted...
Shooting someone who is unarmed and running from you is about the scummiest thing you could possibly do Got him to stop, didn't it? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I4NRulez 10/07/17 10:19:03 PM #22: |
ModLogic posted...
alt_no_1_loves posted...he had outstanding warrants, which is presumably a factor in why he was so upset. Was pulled over because his bike had no lights and he cut across traffic You're crazy if you think thats a fair reason for being shot --- The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench. Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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butthole666 10/07/17 10:20:35 PM #23: |
ModLogic posted...
its best case scenario actually. would you prefer this piece of shit escaped so he could run over a kid later? shit de la post --- "Kenan & Kel is what made me realize I wasn't racist." ~ NewportBox100s ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Offworlder1 10/07/17 10:26:29 PM #24: |
If this guy was unarmed they should not have shot him in the back, yes he has warrents out and drove terribly but unless he had a weapon there is no reason to fire.
The only time to pull your gun is if he has a weapon, is threatening you or someone else. --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ModLogic 10/07/17 10:36:00 PM #25: |
Offworlder1 posted...
there is no reason to fire. they ended the life of a crim so he doesn't go on to end the lofe of an innocent --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Offworlder1 10/07/17 10:37:31 PM #26: |
@ModLogic
Read all of my post, if the person is unarmed and not an immediate threat to you or others you do not fire your weapon. The cop was wrong to kill this guy. --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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apocalyptic_4 10/07/17 10:53:41 PM #27: |
"Running away aggressively"
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MikeArmstrong 10/07/17 10:56:49 PM #28: |
Samurontai posted...
Shooting someone who is unarmed and running from you is about the scummiest thing you could possibly do Welcome to America ... Copied to Clipboard!
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the_cajun88 10/07/17 11:00:10 PM #29: |
DirkDiggles posted...
Samurontai posted...Shooting someone who is unarmed and running from you is about the scummiest thing you could possibly do yes --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DifferentialEquation 10/07/17 11:00:42 PM #30: |
goo.gl/ecyADz
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Blue_Dream87 10/07/17 11:07:02 PM #31: |
DifferentialEquation posted...
goo.gl/ecyADz To whoever saw the video, does this line up? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lowtides 10/07/17 11:07:54 PM #32: |
I doubt it. The police are known liars to protect themselves.
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DifferentialEquation 10/07/17 11:26:26 PM #33: |
Blue_Dream87 posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...goo.gl/ecyADz The video is easy to find. It's on youtube. --- "If the day does not require an AK, it is good." The Great Warrior Poet, Ice Cube ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ammonitida 10/07/17 11:35:53 PM #34: |
I saw the video. He runs away but then appears to turns around briefly with his arm raised as if he is pointing a weapon at the cop. The badgecam video is very choppy.
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closetkpopfan 10/07/17 11:43:40 PM #35: |
Homeowners can be charged for shooting burglars who have fled their house, I don't see why Police are allowed to get away with killing someone just because they run. Granted I didn't watch the video and don't plan too, so if this guy had a knife and turned back then fair next.
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ModLogic 10/08/17 12:24:53 AM #36: |
Ammonitida posted...
I saw the video. He runs away but then appears to turns around briefly with his arm raised as if he is pointing a weapon at the cop. The badgecam video is very choppy. fair next even harder --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 10/08/17 12:25:17 AM #37: |
Ammonitida posted...
I saw the video. He runs away but then appears to turns around briefly with his arm raised as if he is pointing a weapon at the cop. The badgecam video is very choppy. yeah I definitely did see him turn around towards the cop right before he shot. I didn't see a knife or anything on the ground after though --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSJ4Broly 10/08/17 12:46:00 AM #38: |
mobilebloechel posted...
Don't fucking run from police, how hard is this to understand ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ammonitida 10/08/17 8:25:07 AM #39: |
thronedfire2 posted...
Ammonitida posted...I saw the video. He runs away but then appears to turns around briefly with his arm raised as if he is pointing a weapon at the cop. The badgecam video is very choppy. There was certainly a knife on him. It was dusted for his fingerprints and they matched the deceased. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Flasbangs 10/08/17 8:29:12 AM #40: |
What's with the trolls here agreeing with murder? Has it become so common to be murdered by your police force that you think it's right?
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ModLogic 10/08/17 8:40:29 AM #42: |
is it some meme to always sympathize with criminal scum?
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gatorsPENSbucs 10/08/17 8:44:47 AM #43: |
mobilebloechel posted...
Don't fucking run from police, how hard is this to understand --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MacDaMurderer 10/08/17 8:45:42 AM #44: |
Someone explain to me how a warrant automatically makes you a guilty of a crime? So much for innocent until proven guilty
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Sayoria 10/08/17 8:46:30 AM #45: |
mobilebloechel posted...
Don't fucking run from police, how hard is this to understand This. I'm blaming parents for not teaching their kids moral values and repercussions of the inability for compliance with the law. Was it right? Probably not, but man, if you plan to run away from law enforcement, take that as a sign that they don't know what you have, where you are going, or what you have planned. They will usually aim to hit you in the legs to slow you down, but expect shots fired any way. Seriously, comply with the law. We don't have a damn gestapo here. It's not hard to avoid getting in trouble with the cops. Most are actually really cool. Again, I don't support that result, but anyone willing to do shit like this better expect the worst that can happen, be it hit by a car running across a street, shot dead, or slipping off ledges or something. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1s7pla ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Taharqa_ 10/08/17 8:52:41 AM #46: |
Just gonna leave this here:
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Inferno Dive Dragoon 10/08/17 8:55:54 AM #47: |
It's not hard to avoid getting in trouble with the cops. Most are actually really cool. Imagine actually believing this. --- Les aristocrates a la lanterne! Les aristocrates on les pendra! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Simon_Petrikov 10/08/17 8:56:37 AM #48: |
Taharqa_ posted...
Just gonna leave this here: Was this one of the cops that has murdered a person that acted aggressively towards them? --- ~The (N)ice King~ http://i.imgur.com/V0NMmmo.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ammonitida 10/08/17 9:09:15 AM #50: |
Simon_Petrikov posted...
Taharqa_ posted...Just gonna leave this here: NO, this is the same cop. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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