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DifferentialEquation
10/05/17 3:51:13 PM
#51:


CruelBuffalo posted...
Why should we allow full automatic weapons? I really don't get it


Why shouldn't we?
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MachoManSavage
10/05/17 3:58:04 PM
#52:


I'm Canadian so I know nothing about guns.

What are bump stocks?

Automatic means you press done on the trigger and it shoots forever (well depending on ammo) and semi auto means it fires in spurts? Why is automatic considered so much more dangerous?

545x39 posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
Why should we allow full automatic weapons? I really don't get it

Same reason we should allow abortions. It's none of your fucking business.


Should we allow people to use recreationwl drugs like heroin and cocaine?

I had a manager once who was into guns, and he said guns should be legal because they are safe when used properly. But drugs should be all illegal. I wanted to drown myself when I heard that.
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Tropicalwood
10/05/17 3:58:10 PM
#53:


That moment you're so ignorant to science that you want to keep suppressors behind a year of paperwork.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BczhT1ByrXA

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Anarchy_Juiblex
10/05/17 3:59:04 PM
#54:


Malcrasternus posted...
Guns are more effective when they're more accurate. You increase the rate of fire, you decrease the accuracy. Recoil and physics are against you and reduce your chances of hitting vitals.


My point was full auto increases the likelihood of hitting something you didn't intend. Obviously that's not "safer". A bump stock on range day is a fucking liability, full auto on range day is more dangerous. Hence that little girl that merc'd the fucking dude when they gave her an auto.

I'm literally arguing here that effectiveness is not that same thing as dangerousness and you're acting like I'm the anti-gunner.

As for suppressive fire . . . there are other, non rifle automatic weapons. Yes, that is one* tactical use (with no civilian practically, as you by definitely are shooting wantonly) but you ain't using a Glock 18 for suppresive fire. Or a 50 cal or anything like that.
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MachoManSavage
10/05/17 3:59:26 PM
#55:


DifferentialEquation posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
Why should we allow full automatic weapons? I really don't get it


Why shouldn't we?


Should we allow all drugs to be legal?

I think we should.
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Tropicalwood
10/05/17 4:00:21 PM
#56:


MachoManSavage posted...
Should we allow people to use recreationwl drugs like heroin and cocaine?

As a libertarian, yes.
All the war on drugs does is waste tax dollars on typically non-violent offenders and prevents the federal government form obtaining taxes on said drugs because they're being sold by drug cartels.
Same with the NFA, despite it being a $200 "tax" it costs about 1000% than what the government gets.
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RickyTheBAWSE
10/05/17 4:01:17 PM
#57:


MachoManSavage posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
Why should we allow full automatic weapons? I really don't get it


Why shouldn't we?


Should we allow all drugs to be legal?

I think we should.


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ModLogic
10/05/17 4:03:28 PM
#58:


CruelBuffalo posted...
Why should we allow full automatic weapons? I really don't get it

same reason why ice should be legalized and sold at every supermarket checkout
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Darklit_Minuet
10/05/17 4:05:14 PM
#59:


MachoManSavage posted...
Should we allow people to use recreationwl drugs like heroin and cocaine?

Yes. Use anything you want
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DezCaughtIt
10/05/17 4:06:15 PM
#60:


What citizen actually needs a fully automatic weapon

Fucking explain that to me
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The Great Muta 22
10/05/17 4:07:10 PM
#61:


Libertarians are silly people with, generally, an unsustainable and illogical belief system in how a country should function. It's best to just laugh at them
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MachoManSavage
10/05/17 4:07:10 PM
#62:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
MachoManSavage posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
Why should we allow full automatic weapons? I really don't get it


Why shouldn't we?


Should we allow all drugs to be legal?

I think we should.


false =


Both are in a constant war of "should it be legal".

Both have brought joy to people who have used it correctly.

Both have killed people who use it incorrectly.

Both have caused harm accidently.

Both are a freedom we should have, or a freedom we shouldn't.

I don't understand the argument that I can't eat certain leaves to get me feeling comfy without spending years in prison. It's none of your business what I do. Just like how people buy weapons that can kill 60 people in 10 minutes. One bad apple shouldn't ruin the fun for everyone.
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Tropicalwood
10/05/17 4:07:40 PM
#63:


What citizen needs offensive words?
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DezCaughtIt
10/05/17 4:09:18 PM
#64:


Tropicalwood posted...
What citizen needs offensive words?

Explain a legitimate reason an average citizen needs a fully automatic weapon.

Spoilers: You can't.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
10/05/17 4:09:19 PM
#65:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
Libertarians are silly people with, generally, an unsustainable and illogical belief system in how a country should function. It's best to just laugh at them


Yeah I think I'm just going to take this approach.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/05/17 4:10:15 PM
#66:


SOLID_SNAPE posted...
MORE RINOS NOT TO VOTE FOR. All self respecting conservative, STAY HOME next election. Do not vote for RINO who will not uphold second amendment.


I'm not sure if this post would seem more or less garbagey if I understood it.
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Tropicalwood
10/05/17 4:11:57 PM
#67:


DezCaughtIt posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
What citizen needs offensive words?

Explain a legitimate reason an average citizen needs a fully automatic weapon.

Spoilers: You can't.

There has only ever been maybe 2 killings with a legally owned machinegun, one was a cop, the other was Clyde Barrow and he actually stole it from the government.
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DezCaughtIt
10/05/17 4:12:55 PM
#68:


Tropicalwood posted...
DezCaughtIt posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
What citizen needs offensive words?

Explain a legitimate reason an average citizen needs a fully automatic weapon.

Spoilers: You can't.

There has only ever been maybe 2 killings with a legally owned machinegun, one was a cop, the other was Clyde Barrow and he actually stole it from the government.


Cool.

That's not a reason why an average citizen should own a fully automatic weapon.
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Tropicalwood
10/05/17 4:13:58 PM
#69:


DezCaughtIt posted...

Cool.

That's not a reason why an average citizen should own a fully automatic weapon.

Why should we need a reason to not mutilate the constitution again? You hate freedom bro?
How do you expect to keep King George off your lawn with that crappy .22 single shot.
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DezCaughtIt
10/05/17 4:15:06 PM
#70:


Tropicalwood posted...
DezCaughtIt posted...

Cool.

That's not a reason why an average citizen should own a fully automatic weapon.

Why should we need a reason to not mutilate the constitution again? You hate freedom bro?


So are you going to give a reason or
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Darklit_Minuet
10/05/17 4:15:29 PM
#71:


DezCaughtIt posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
DezCaughtIt posted...

Cool.

That's not a reason why an average citizen should own a fully automatic weapon.

Why should we need a reason to not mutilate the constitution again? You hate freedom bro?


So are you going to give a reason or

I want one.

That's reason enough for me
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DezCaughtIt
10/05/17 4:16:24 PM
#72:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
DezCaughtIt posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
DezCaughtIt posted...

Cool.

That's not a reason why an average citizen should own a fully automatic weapon.

Why should we need a reason to not mutilate the constitution again? You hate freedom bro?


So are you going to give a reason or

I want one.

That's reason enough for me


Just because you "want" something doesn't mean you need it.

Give me a legitimate reason why an average citizen would NEED a fully automatic weapon.
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Tropicalwood
10/05/17 4:18:15 PM
#73:


DezCaughtIt posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
DezCaughtIt posted...

Cool.

That's not a reason why an average citizen should own a fully automatic weapon.

Why should we need a reason to not mutilate the constitution again? You hate freedom bro?


So are you going to give a reason or

Why should the constitution be used as Feinstein's toilet paper because someone "might" misuse it.

Why are you so hellbent on going after law abiding citizens because you know nothing about guns. You watch a hollywood film that makes them out to be this magical object that can take down an entire army whenever some macho man picks it up and points.
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Darklit_Minuet
10/05/17 4:18:22 PM
#74:


DezCaughtIt posted...
Give me a legitimate reason why an average citizen would NEED a fully automatic weapon.

We don't legalize based on what people NEED. Nobody NEEDS a fast car or a huge tv or a giant dragon dildo, but they can buy them anyway because personal freedoms
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Anarchy_Juiblex
10/05/17 4:19:07 PM
#75:


Tropicalwood posted...
There has only ever been maybe 2 killings with a legally owned machinegun


*If we ignore prohibition and the entire 1920s*
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DezCaughtIt
10/05/17 4:19:12 PM
#76:


I've literally only asked one very simple question this whole time and you keep deflecting super hard because you can't answer it.
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Tropicalwood
10/05/17 4:22:17 PM
#77:


DezCaughtIt posted...
I've literally only asked one very simple question this whole time and you keep deflecting super hard because you can't answer it.

Why do you need an account on Gamefaqs?
Why do you need to spend thirty minutes in the shower
Why do you need video games
Why do you need cigarettes
Why do you need anti-depressants
Why do you need gun control
Why do you need a democrat
Why do you need money
Why do you need to ask such stupid questions all the damn time, maybe that's why your dad hates you.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
10/05/17 4:26:16 PM
#78:


@Tropicalwood

You'd heard of this right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Valentine%27s_Day_Massacre

You said there were only maybe 2 killings with legally obtained full autos. There were 7 people alone murdered in this one incident with Tommy guns.
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DezCaughtIt
10/05/17 4:27:35 PM
#79:


Tropicalwood posted...
DezCaughtIt posted...
I've literally only asked one very simple question this whole time and you keep deflecting super hard because you can't answer it.

Why do you need an account on Gamefaqs?
Why do you need to spend thirty minutes in the shower
Why do you need video games
Why do you need cigarettes
Why do you need anti-depressants
Why do you need gun control
Why do you need a democrat
Why do you need money
Why do you need to ask such stupid questions all the damn time, maybe that's why your dad hates you.


All this deflection and you still can't answer the one question I asked
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CruelBuffalo
10/05/17 4:29:03 PM
#80:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
DezCaughtIt posted...
Give me a legitimate reason why an average citizen would NEED a fully automatic weapon.

We don't legalize based on what people NEED. Nobody NEEDS a fast car or a huge tv or a giant dragon dildo, but they can buy them anyway because personal freedoms


Ummm there are limits on what cars can be sold based on the safety of the car...
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Tropicalwood
10/05/17 4:29:10 PM
#81:


@Anarchy_Juiblex
Ohhh, you mean when Al Capone chained down a couple of gangsters. Such a stand up guy.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
10/05/17 4:30:53 PM
#82:


So in other words, you're going to ignore the point because you know it leads to discussing post-ban murders, which granted is very few, which proves the ban worked.
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Tropicalwood
10/05/17 4:33:11 PM
#83:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
So in other words, you're going to ignore the point because you know it leads to discussing post-ban murders, which granted is very few, which proves the ban worked.

You mean you're just going to ignore that Al Capone was known for providing alcohol to the fine people of Chicago during the prohibition and that even post-nfa he could get whatever he wanted.

You're also ignoring that the Thomson is a shitty gun and those killings were a message. Because a gang isn't going to kill someone to send those, they'll fuck them up and send their mutilated corpse.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/05/17 4:54:09 PM
#84:


DezCaughtIt posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
What citizen needs offensive words?

Explain a legitimate reason an average citizen needs a fully automatic weapon.

Spoilers: You can't.


It would be awesome if I had one. That's my legitimate reason.
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DifferentialEquation
10/05/17 6:19:21 PM
#85:


MachoManSavage posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
Why should we allow full automatic weapons? I really don't get it


Why shouldn't we?


Should we allow all drugs to be legal?

I think we should.


So do I.
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GiftedACIII
10/05/17 7:49:08 PM
#86:


That's a start
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/05/17 10:35:15 PM
#87:


DifferentialEquation posted...
MachoManSavage posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
Why should we allow full automatic weapons? I really don't get it


Why shouldn't we?


Should we allow all drugs to be legal?

I think we should.


So do I.


This is the first post you've made that I agree with, but it's a big one. Portugal knows what's up.
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Dark_Spiret
10/05/17 11:12:42 PM
#88:


bend that knee
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Bio1590
10/06/17 11:57:27 AM
#89:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
MachoManSavage posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
Why should we allow full automatic weapons? I really don't get it


Why shouldn't we?


Should we allow all drugs to be legal?

I think we should.


So do I.


This is the first post you've made that I agree with, but it's a big one. Portugal knows what's up.

Too bad the US could never did what Portugal did, because everything else Portugal put in place with it is just S O C I A L I S M.
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Guide
10/06/17 12:03:05 PM
#90:


It's amazing how much deflection can happen without people realizing how dishonest it makes them.
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divot1338
10/06/17 12:06:19 PM
#91:


lol no theyre not.

-edit- response to OP
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Kineth
10/06/17 12:07:14 PM
#92:


You'll still get people on this website arguing for the old positions.
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