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EverHeardOfIt 10/04/17 6:20:16 PM #1:	it's the diet of future: not eating animals. Best part is we live in the future (2017) in case you forgot so there are new science food shit coming out every day. Being vegan now isn't being vegan 10 years ago isn't being vegan 10 years from now. Just few weeks ago this crazy plant burger came to the east coast. They like inject with hemoglobin or some shit to bring it closer to the taste of meat. Jump on now before it's cool and everyone's doing it. The more people that vote for vegan foods with their wallet, the faster we have crazier and crazier scientifically generated animal product substitutes. You want to taste a fucking dragon? They can probably do that. A larger vegan market means more funding to lab grown meats. <cite>EverHeardOfIt posted [p:887817456] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote>it's the diet of future: not eating animals. Best part is we live in the future (2017) in case you forgot so there are new science food shit coming out every day. Being vegan now isn't being vegan 10 years ago isn't being vegan 10 years from now. Just few weeks ago this crazy plant burger came to the east coast. They like inject with hemoglobin or some shit to bring it closer to the taste of meat. Jump on now before it's cool and everyone's doing it. The more people that vote for vegan foods with their wallet, the faster we have crazier and crazier scientifically generated animal product substitutes. You want to taste a fucking dragon? They can probably do that. A larger vegan market means more funding to lab grown meats.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaname_Madoka 10/04/17 6:20:53 PM #2:	--- Drawn for me by \| Popcorn_Fairy: https://i.imgtc.com/cvSNxRT.jpg \| Volkswagen_Bros: http://i.imgur.com/86XOVXb.jpg \| ShinobiNinjaX: https://imgur.com/bPb5vEV <cite>Kaname_Madoka posted [p:887817496] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Spidey5 10/04/17 6:22:07 PM #3:	EverHeardOfIt posted... You want to taste a fucking dragon? They can probably do that. A larger vegan market means more funding to lab grown meats. Yes, I want to eat Tooru's tail. --- http://puu.sh/d8cwg.jpg http://puu.sh/7NsBw.jpg http://puu.sh/7NsCb.jpg http://puu.sh/7NsCP.jpg http://puu.sh/7NsDV.jpg http://puu.sh/7NvxI.jpg <cite>Spidey5 posted [p:887817566] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>EverHeardOfIt posted...</cite> <quote> You want to taste a fucking dragon? They can probably do that. A larger vegan market means more funding to lab grown meats.</quote> Yes, I want to eat Tooru's tail.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Volkswagen_Bros 10/04/17 6:23:58 PM #4:	I sort of feel bad for vegans. It's like picking on a kid you know can't really fight back. --- Look! my foot is on the rope! My FOOT is on the rope. If it weren't for that ref, I would've been champion! - Alexa Bliss <cite>Volkswagen_Bros posted [p:887817662] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote>I sort of feel bad for vegans. It's like picking on a kid you know can't really fight back.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lonestar2000 10/04/17 6:24:34 PM #5:	Whose alt is this? --- Rumble Roses. Someone enters the room. Them: O_O Me: What?! I always play games without my pants on!- Inmate 922335 #ImpeachTrump <cite>Lonestar2000 posted [p:887817681] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote>Whose alt is this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverHeardOfIt 10/04/17 6:25:27 PM #6:	Volkswagen_Bros posted... I sort of feel bad for vegans. It's like picking on a kid you know can't really fight back. i know right fuck vegans they're so condescending <cite>EverHeardOfIt posted [p:887817726] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>Volkswagen_Bros posted...</cite> <quote>I sort of feel bad for vegans. It's like picking on a kid you know can't really fight back.</quote> i know right fuck vegans they're so condescending</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverHeardOfIt 10/04/17 6:32:46 PM #7:	any yall had falafel <cite>EverHeardOfIt posted [p:887818112] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote>any yall had falafel</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaname_Madoka 10/04/17 6:34:51 PM #8:	Falafel is good But just because food that is vegan can be good doesn't mean I'm going vegan --- Drawn for me by \| Popcorn_Fairy: https://i.imgtc.com/cvSNxRT.jpg \| Volkswagen_Bros: http://i.imgur.com/86XOVXb.jpg \| ShinobiNinjaX: https://imgur.com/bPb5vEV <cite>Kaname_Madoka posted [p:887818222] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote>Falafel is good But just because food that is vegan can be good doesn't mean I'm going vegan</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
REMercsChamp 10/04/17 6:35:35 PM #9:	It could be worse, there's people who think they can get all the energy they need from sunlight, or breathing, or water. At least vegans aren't that bad. --- https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/35939727.jpg <cite>REMercsChamp posted [p:887818257] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote>It could be worse, there's people who think they can get all the energy they need from sunlight, or breathing, or water. At least vegans aren't that bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverHeardOfIt 10/04/17 6:36:51 PM #10:	REMercsChamp posted... It could be worse, there's people who think they can get all the energy they need from sunlight, or breathing, or water. At least vegans aren't that bad. yeah it could be worse, there are people who are really condescending. at least vegans aren't that condescending <cite>EverHeardOfIt posted [p:887818335] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>REMercsChamp posted...</cite> <quote>It could be worse, there's people who think they can get all the energy they need from sunlight, or breathing, or water. At least vegans aren't that bad.</quote> yeah it could be worse, there are people who are really condescending. at least vegans aren't that condescending</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 10/04/17 6:37:24 PM #11:	REMercsChamp posted... It could be worse, there's people who think they can get all the energy they need from sunlight, or breathing, or water. At least vegans aren't that bad. Well you can survive on a vegan diet. Breatherians and others that give up good all together? That's just delusional. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:887818358] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>REMercsChamp posted...</cite> <quote>It could be worse, there's people who think they can get all the energy they need from sunlight, or breathing, or water. At least vegans aren't that bad.</quote> Well you can survive on a vegan diet. Breatherians and others that give up good all together? That's just delusional.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
REMercsChamp 10/04/17 6:38:51 PM #12:	creativerealms posted... REMercsChamp posted... It could be worse, there's people who think they can get all the energy they need from sunlight, or breathing, or water. At least vegans aren't that bad. Well you can survive on a vegan diet. Breatherians and others that give up good all together? That's just delusional. That's what I'm saying, it's not that bad. Although a vegan diet can be dangerous under certain circumstances. --- https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/35939727.jpg <cite>REMercsChamp posted [p:887818442] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>REMercsChamp posted...</cite> <quote>It could be worse, there's people who think they can get all the energy they need from sunlight, or breathing, or water. At least vegans aren't that bad.</quote> Well you can survive on a vegan diet. Breatherians and others that give up good all together? That's just delusional.</quote> That's what I'm saying, it's not that bad. Although a vegan diet can be dangerous under certain circumstances.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverHeardOfIt 10/04/17 6:40:29 PM #13:	REMercsChamp posted... creativerealms posted... REMercsChamp posted... It could be worse, there's people who think they can get all the energy they need from sunlight, or breathing, or water. At least vegans aren't that bad. Well you can survive on a vegan diet. Breatherians and others that give up good all together? That's just delusional. That's what I'm saying, it's not that bad. Although a vegan diet can be dangerous under certain circumstances. I'd really like you to post some sources that a properly planned vegan diet is less healthy than a properly planned omnivorous diet. Of course it can be dangerous under certain circumstances but those circumstances are precisely an improperly planned diet. <cite>EverHeardOfIt posted [p:887818522] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>REMercsChamp posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>REMercsChamp posted...</cite> <quote>It could be worse, there's people who think they can get all the energy they need from sunlight, or breathing, or water. At least vegans aren't that bad.</quote> Well you can survive on a vegan diet. Breatherians and others that give up good all together? That's just delusional.</quote> That's what I'm saying, it's not that bad. Although a vegan diet can be dangerous under certain circumstances.</quote> I'd really like you to post some sources that a properly planned vegan diet is less healthy than a properly planned omnivorous diet. Of course it can be dangerous under certain circumstances but those circumstances are precisely an improperly planned diet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nativengine 10/04/17 6:40:42 PM #14:	I often eat meat that I killed, skinned and processed myself. Just Monday night I had moose that a killed last year and tonight I'm having turkey meatballs in my spaghetti. --- Jive <cite>nativengine posted [p:887818541] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote>I often eat meat that I killed, skinned and processed myself. Just Monday night I had moose that a killed last year and tonight I'm having turkey meatballs in my spaghetti.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverHeardOfIt 10/04/17 6:43:10 PM #15:	nativengine posted... I often eat meat that I killed, skinned and processed myself. Just Monday night I had moose that a killed last year and tonight I'm having turkey meatballs in my spaghetti. In some parts of the world that's necessary (and what you did is certainly infinitely more sustainable than store-bought meat) but fundamentally it's not necessary in the western world, so being real I don't see why you'd want to. <cite>EverHeardOfIt posted [p:887818684] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote>I often eat meat that I killed, skinned and processed myself. Just Monday night I had moose that a killed last year and tonight I'm having turkey meatballs in my spaghetti.</quote> In some parts of the world that's necessary (and what you did is certainly infinitely more sustainable than store-bought meat) but fundamentally it's not necessary in the western world, so being real I don't see why you'd want to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NINExATExSEVEN 10/04/17 6:43:56 PM #16:	The future of protein is bugs. I already purchase cricket flour and use it in home made bread, eggs, smoothies etc. And it's just pure protein by weight. --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... Dubstep song of the week http://youtu.be/MmVHWPdI5d0 <cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted [p:887818722] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote>The future of protein is bugs. I already purchase cricket flour and use it in home made bread, eggs, smoothies etc. And it's just pure protein by weight.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nativengine 10/04/17 6:44:06 PM #17:	EverHeardOfIt posted... nativengine posted... I often eat meat that I killed, skinned and processed myself. Just Monday night I had moose that a killed last year and tonight I'm having turkey meatballs in my spaghetti. In some parts of the world that's necessary, and what you did is certainly infinitely more sustainable than store-bought meat, but fundamentally it's not necessary in the western world, so being real I don't see why you'd want to. Tradition and personal satisfaction --- Jive <cite>nativengine posted [p:887818736] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>EverHeardOfIt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote>I often eat meat that I killed, skinned and processed myself. Just Monday night I had moose that a killed last year and tonight I'm having turkey meatballs in my spaghetti.</quote> In some parts of the world that's necessary, and what you did is certainly infinitely more sustainable than store-bought meat, but fundamentally it's not necessary in the western world, so being real I don't see why you'd want to.</quote> Tradition and personal satisfaction</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverHeardOfIt 10/04/17 6:45:58 PM #18:	nativengine posted... EverHeardOfIt posted... nativengine posted... I often eat meat that I killed, skinned and processed myself. Just Monday night I had moose that a killed last year and tonight I'm having turkey meatballs in my spaghetti. In some parts of the world that's necessary, and what you did is certainly infinitely more sustainable than store-bought meat, but fundamentally it's not necessary in the western world, so being real I don't see why you'd want to. Tradition and personal satisfaction I generally think traditions are a dangerous flaw in humans, and I don't value my own personal satisfaction over another animal's life when there are other ways of achieving it. That's my take at least <cite>EverHeardOfIt posted [p:887818839] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EverHeardOfIt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote>I often eat meat that I killed, skinned and processed myself. Just Monday night I had moose that a killed last year and tonight I'm having turkey meatballs in my spaghetti.</quote> In some parts of the world that's necessary, and what you did is certainly infinitely more sustainable than store-bought meat, but fundamentally it's not necessary in the western world, so being real I don't see why you'd want to.</quote> Tradition and personal satisfaction</quote> I generally think traditions are a dangerous flaw in humans, and I don't value my own personal satisfaction over another animal's life when there are other ways of achieving it. That's my take at least</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
REMercsChamp 10/04/17 6:48:42 PM #19:	EverHeardOfIt posted... another animal's life Who gives a shit about animals --- https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/35939727.jpg <cite>REMercsChamp posted [p:887818977] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>EverHeardOfIt posted...</cite> <quote>another animal's life</quote> Who gives a shit about animals</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverHeardOfIt 10/04/17 6:50:28 PM #20:	REMercsChamp posted... EverHeardOfIt posted... another animal's life Who gives a shit about animals you're an animal lmao <cite>EverHeardOfIt posted [p:887819063] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>REMercsChamp posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EverHeardOfIt posted...</cite> <quote>another animal's life</quote> Who gives a shit about animals</quote> you're an animal lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giblet_Enjoyer 10/04/17 6:52:10 PM #21:	REMercsChamp posted... EverHeardOfIt posted... another animal's life Who gives a shit about animals Psst...your family are all animals NINExATExSEVEN posted... The future of protein is bugs. I already purchase cricket flour and use it in home made bread, eggs, smoothies etc. And it's just pure protein by weight. Agreed, if we're taking "future" in the sense that means "superior" It won't catch on because "eww, bugs!" but it's obviously the way What do you think about this, TC? You fine with people eating bugs? I think it'd be more ethical than raising mammals/birds for eating, myself --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:887819171] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>REMercsChamp posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EverHeardOfIt posted...</cite> <quote>another animal's life</quote> Who gives a shit about animals</quote> Psst...your family are all animals <cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote>The future of protein is bugs. I already purchase cricket flour and use it in home made bread, eggs, smoothies etc. And it's just pure protein by weight.</quote> Agreed, if we're taking "future" in the sense that means "superior" It won't catch on because "eww, bugs!" but it's obviously the way What do you think about this, TC? You fine with people eating bugs? I think it'd be more ethical than raising mammals/birds for eating, myself</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverHeardOfIt 10/04/17 6:54:43 PM #22:	Giblet_Enjoyer posted... It won't catch on because "eww, bugs!" but it's obviously the way What do you think about this, TC? You fine with people eating bugs? I think it'd be more ethical than raising mammals/birds for eating, myself Sustainable af and ethically better than mammals/birds but I'd still prefer food which we can guarantee was never sentient at any point <cite>EverHeardOfIt posted [p:887819319] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted...</cite> <quote>It won't catch on because "eww, bugs!" but it's obviously the way What do you think about this, TC? You fine with people eating bugs? I think it'd be more ethical than raising mammals/birds for eating, myself</quote> Sustainable af and ethically better than mammals/birds but I'd still prefer food which we can guarantee was never sentient at any point</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
C_Pain 10/04/17 7:02:03 PM #23:	Do you believe morality is subjective? If you have no qualms with eating meat than is that permissable? --- How quaint. <cite>C_Pain posted [p:887819741] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote>Do you believe morality is subjective? If you have no qualms with eating meat than is that permissable?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverHeardOfIt 10/04/17 7:03:33 PM #24:	C_Pain posted... Do you believe morality is subjective? If you have no qualms with eating meat than is that permissable? I choose not to go down that rabbit hole cause you hit philosophical bedrock fast. You start playing around with the absolute ontological nature of morality and you just get nonsense results either way you choose. <cite>EverHeardOfIt posted [p:887819822] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>C_Pain posted...</cite> <quote>Do you believe morality is subjective? If you have no qualms with eating meat than is that permissable?</quote> I choose not to go down that rabbit hole cause you hit philosophical bedrock fast. You start playing around with the absolute ontological nature of morality and you just get nonsense results either way you choose.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chill02 10/04/17 7:17:52 PM #25:	--- Ave, true to Caesar. <cite>chill02 posted [p:887820659] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote> --- Ave, true to Caesar.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Superlinkbro 10/04/17 7:19:24 PM #26:	I could never not eat meat, infact I'm eating a chicken pot pie right now. ~~also when could you post emojis on this site?~~ --- Basically the internet: https://youtu.be/M5Yqav2Juis <cite>Superlinkbro posted [p:887820730] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote>I could never not eat meat, infact I'm eating a chicken pot pie right now. also when could you post emojis on this site?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverHeardOfIt 10/05/17 12:10:03 AM #27:	bump <cite>EverHeardOfIt posted [p:887836831] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote>bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverHeardOfIt 10/05/17 1:24:11 AM #28:	dragon meat <cite>EverHeardOfIt posted [p:887839711] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote>dragon meat</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaname_Madoka 10/05/17 1:24:56 AM #29:	EverHeardOfIt posted... dragon meat But you can already get that from Bad Dr- nothing. --- Drawn for me by Volkswagen_Bros, ShinobiNinjaX, Popcorn_Fairy and Nayr626. https://imgur.com/gallery/B4o8m It was all a dream, I used to read Word Up magazine <cite>Kaname_Madoka posted [p:887839748] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>EverHeardOfIt posted...</cite> <quote>dragon meat</quote> But you can already get that from Bad Dr- nothing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverHeardOfIt 10/06/17 12:23:16 AM #30:	bump <cite>EverHeardOfIt posted [p:887900720] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote>bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/06/17 12:25:19 AM #31:	who cares if some animals die to feed other animals <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:887900809] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote>who cares if some animals die to feed other animals</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverHeardOfIt 10/06/17 12:29:00 AM #32:	FLUFFYGERM posted... who cares if some animals die to feed other animals You're an animal <cite>EverHeardOfIt posted [p:887900965] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>who cares if some animals die to feed other animals</quote> You're an animal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaname_Madoka 10/06/17 12:30:04 AM #33:	EverHeardOfIt posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... who cares if some animals die to feed other animals You're an animal Exactly --- Drawn for me by Volkswagen_Bros, ShinobiNinjaX, Popcorn_Fairy and Nayr626. https://imgur.com/gallery/B4o8m It was all a dream, I used to read Word Up magazine <cite>Kaname_Madoka posted [p:887901010] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>EverHeardOfIt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>who cares if some animals die to feed other animals</quote> You're an animal</quote> Exactly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/06/17 12:30:50 AM #34:	EverHeardOfIt posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... who cares if some animals die to feed other animals You're an animal yep. and the top of the food chain, matey. so what's the problem if i eat some bacon? <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:887901040] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>EverHeardOfIt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>who cares if some animals die to feed other animals</quote> You're an animal</quote> yep. and the top of the food chain, matey. so what's the problem if i eat some bacon?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverHeardOfIt 10/06/17 12:31:40 AM #35:	Kaname_Madoka posted... EverHeardOfIt posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... who cares if some animals die to feed other animals You're an animal Exactly What I mean is if you were the animal who were dying to feed other animals you probably would care <cite>EverHeardOfIt posted [p:887901074] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kaname_Madoka posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EverHeardOfIt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>who cares if some animals die to feed other animals</quote> You're an animal</quote> Exactly</quote> What I mean is if you were the animal who were dying to feed other animals you probably would care</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverHeardOfIt 10/06/17 12:32:05 AM #36:	FLUFFYGERM posted... EverHeardOfIt posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... who cares if some animals die to feed other animals You're an animal yep. and the top of the food chain, matey. so what's the problem if i eat some bacon? nothing, logistically. a little, ethically <cite>EverHeardOfIt posted [p:887901093] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EverHeardOfIt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>who cares if some animals die to feed other animals</quote> You're an animal</quote> yep. and the top of the food chain, matey. so what's the problem if i eat some bacon?</quote> nothing, logistically. a little, ethically</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaname_Madoka 10/06/17 12:32:19 AM #37:	EverHeardOfIt posted... Kaname_Madoka posted... EverHeardOfIt posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... who cares if some animals die to feed other animals You're an animal Exactly What I mean is if you were the animal who were dying to feed other animals you probably would care I'm going to feed worms when I did Well actually. I won't, because I'd be cremated --- Drawn for me by Volkswagen_Bros, ShinobiNinjaX, Popcorn_Fairy and Nayr626. https://imgur.com/gallery/B4o8m It was all a dream, I used to read Word Up magazine <cite>Kaname_Madoka posted [p:887901098] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>EverHeardOfIt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kaname_Madoka posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EverHeardOfIt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>who cares if some animals die to feed other animals</quote> You're an animal</quote> Exactly</quote> What I mean is if you were the animal who were dying to feed other animals you probably would care</quote> I'm going to feed worms when I did Well actually. I won't, because I'd be cremated</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/06/17 12:32:40 AM #38:	EverHeardOfIt posted... Kaname_Madoka posted... EverHeardOfIt posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... who cares if some animals die to feed other animals You're an animal Exactly What I mean is if you were the animal who were dying to feed other animals you probably would care well, most animals don't really comprehend what's going on. they're just motor functions. and if i was going to be some animal's lunch, well, i'd probably stop caring once i'm dead. that still doesnt explain why it's bad for someone to eat bacon tho <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:887901115] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>EverHeardOfIt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kaname_Madoka posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EverHeardOfIt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>who cares if some animals die to feed other animals</quote> You're an animal</quote> Exactly</quote> What I mean is if you were the animal who were dying to feed other animals you probably would care</quote> well, most animals don't really comprehend what's going on. they're just motor functions. and if i was going to be some animal's lunch, well, i'd probably stop caring once i'm dead. that still doesnt explain why it's bad for someone to eat bacon tho</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/06/17 12:33:06 AM #39:	EverHeardOfIt posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... EverHeardOfIt posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... who cares if some animals die to feed other animals You're an animal yep. and the top of the food chain, matey. so what's the problem if i eat some bacon? nothing, logistically. a little, ethically according to which system of ethics why should we care about that system of ethics <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:887901134] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>EverHeardOfIt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EverHeardOfIt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>who cares if some animals die to feed other animals</quote> You're an animal</quote> yep. and the top of the food chain, matey. so what's the problem if i eat some bacon?</quote> nothing, logistically. a little, ethically</quote> according to which system of ethics why should we care about that system of ethics</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverHeardOfIt 10/06/17 12:43:21 AM #40:	Kaname_Madoka posted... I'm going to feed worms when I did Well actually. I won't, because I'd be cremated But it'll be on your terms. The worms aren't gonna steal your life prematurely FLUFFYGERM posted... well, most animals don't really comprehend what's going on. they're just motor functions. and if i was going to be some animal's lunch, well, i'd probably stop caring once i'm dead. that still doesnt explain why it's bad for someone to eat bacon tho I mean if you've ever had a dog I think you'd understand they're more than motor functions. Sure you'd stop caring after you're dead, but you still wouldn't agree to be another animal's lunch. It's bad to eat bacon cause 1. you're unnecessarily killing an intelligent being for pleasure and 2. you're indirectly harming other people by supporting an unsustainable industry that has dramatic negative effects on the climate FLUFFYGERM posted... according to which system of ethics why should we care about that system of ethics again, deconstructing morality is just asking to get fucked by philosophy. best we can do is avoid contradictions in conclusions from axioms we all agree on <cite>EverHeardOfIt posted [p:887901513] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kaname_Madoka posted...</cite> <quote> I'm going to feed worms when I did Well actually. I won't, because I'd be cremated</quote> But it'll be on your terms. The worms aren't gonna steal your life prematurely <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>well, most animals don't really comprehend what's going on. they're just motor functions. and if i was going to be some animal's lunch, well, i'd probably stop caring once i'm dead. that still doesnt explain why it's bad for someone to eat bacon tho</quote> I mean if you've ever had a dog I think you'd understand they're more than motor functions. Sure you'd stop caring after you're dead, but you still wouldn't agree to be another animal's lunch. It's bad to eat bacon cause 1. you're unnecessarily killing an intelligent being for pleasure and 2. you're indirectly harming other people by supporting an unsustainable industry that has dramatic negative effects on the climate <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>according to which system of ethics why should we care about that system of ethics</quote> again, deconstructing morality is just asking to get fucked by philosophy. best we can do is avoid contradictions in conclusions from axioms we all agree on</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mist_Turnips 10/06/17 12:43:23 AM #41:	EverHeardOfIt posted... Kaname_Madoka posted... EverHeardOfIt posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... who cares if some animals die to feed other animals You're an animal Exactly What I mean is if you were the animal who were dying to feed other animals you probably would care Why do vegan dorks never have anything to argue other than hyperboles, appeals to emotions, and hypothetical scenarios? --- "They say if you don't hide your belly button, lightning could take it away from you! What would happen if it did?" http://i.imgur.com/G74y2NJ.png <cite>Mist_Turnips posted [p:887901514] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>EverHeardOfIt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kaname_Madoka posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EverHeardOfIt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>who cares if some animals die to feed other animals</quote> You're an animal</quote> Exactly</quote> What I mean is if you were the animal who were dying to feed other animals you probably would care</quote> Why do vegan dorks never have anything to argue other than hyperboles, appeals to emotions, and hypothetical scenarios?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/06/17 12:45:47 AM #42:	EverHeardOfIt posted... I mean if you've ever had a dog I think you'd understand they're more than motor functions. Sure you'd stop caring after you're dead, but you still wouldn't agree to be another animal's lunch. It's bad to eat bacon cause 1. you're unnecessarily killing an intelligent being for pleasure and 2. you're indirectly harming other people by supporting an unsustainable industry that has dramatic negative effects on the climate so what you're saying is that in order for someone to think like you, they need to be emotionally invested into an animal like a dog? that seems quite stupid and not logical. food is food. cattle aren't going to know that they're about to become someone's beef. EverHeardOfIt posted... again, deconstructing morality is just asking to get f*ed by philosophy. best we can do is avoid contradictions in conclusions from axioms we all agree on so which system of ethics was that again <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:887901604] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>EverHeardOfIt posted...</cite> <quote>I mean if you've ever had a dog I think you'd understand they're more than motor functions. Sure you'd stop caring after you're dead, but you still wouldn't agree to be another animal's lunch. It's bad to eat bacon cause 1. you're unnecessarily killing an intelligent being for pleasure and 2. you're indirectly harming other people by supporting an unsustainable industry that has dramatic negative effects on the climate </quote> so what you're saying is that in order for someone to think like you, they need to be emotionally invested into an animal like a dog? that seems quite stupid and not logical. food is food. cattle aren't going to know that they're about to become someone's beef. <cite>EverHeardOfIt posted...</cite> <quote>again, deconstructing morality is just asking to get f*ed by philosophy. best we can do is avoid contradictions in conclusions from axioms we all agree on </quote> so which system of ethics was that again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverHeardOfIt 10/06/17 12:47:10 AM #43:	Mist_Turnips posted... Why do vegan dorks never have anything to argue other than hyperboles, appeals to emotions, and hypothetical scenarios? http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0140673607612562 <cite>EverHeardOfIt posted [p:887901652] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mist_Turnips posted...</cite> <quote>Why do vegan dorks never have anything to argue other than hyperboles, appeals to emotions, and hypothetical scenarios?</quote> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0140673607612562</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InYourWalls1 10/06/17 12:53:09 AM #45:	FLUFFYGERM posted... well, most animals don't really comprehend what's going on. they're just motor functions. and if i was going to be some animal's lunch, well, i'd probably stop caring once i'm dead. http://fcmconference.org/img/CambridgeDeclarationOnConsciousness.pdf --- The fully enlightened earth radiates disaster triumphant <cite>InYourWalls1 posted [p:887901890] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>well, most animals don't really comprehend what's going on. they're just motor functions. and if i was going to be some animal's lunch, well, i'd probably stop caring once i'm dead.</quote> http://fcmconference.org/img/CambridgeDeclarationOnConsciousness.pdf</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverHeardOfIt 10/06/17 12:56:19 AM #46:	FLUFFYGERM posted... so what you're saying is that in order for someone to think like you, they need to be emotionally invested into an animal like a dog? that seems quite stupid and not logical. food is food. cattle aren't going to know that they're about to become someone's beef. what I said was that "if you were emotionally invested in an animal like a dog, you'd understand they're more than motor functions." what you came away with was that "if you understand animals are more than motor functions, then you must be emotionally invested in an animal like a dog." you switched the logical implication in the other direction, you see that? it's backwards. No you don't need to be emotionally invested into an animal like a dog, but you must have some understanding of their similar level of consciousness, which since you seemed to lack, I tried to spur on with the dog example. And you really seem to be underestimating how shitty cattle are treated. if I gave evidence that they suffered physically or emotionally, would you accept it or change the goalposts? FLUFFYGERM posted... so which system of ethics was that again well we gotta establish some axioms. like do you value human life? the life of any mammals? what is reasonable cause to cause another human suffering? other mammals? <cite>EverHeardOfIt posted [p:887901988] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>so what you're saying is that in order for someone to think like you, they need to be emotionally invested into an animal like a dog? that seems quite stupid and not logical. food is food. cattle aren't going to know that they're about to become someone's beef.</quote> what I said was that "if you were emotionally invested in an animal like a dog, you'd understand they're more than motor functions." what you came away with was that "if you understand animals are more than motor functions, then you must be emotionally invested in an animal like a dog." you switched the logical implication in the other direction, you see that? it's backwards. No you don't need to be emotionally invested into an animal like a dog, but you must have some understanding of their similar level of consciousness, which since you seemed to lack, I tried to spur on with the dog example. And you really seem to be underestimating how shitty cattle are treated. if I gave evidence that they suffered physically or emotionally, would you accept it or change the goalposts? <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>so which system of ethics was that again</quote> well we gotta establish some axioms. like do you value human life? the life of any mammals? what is reasonable cause to cause another human suffering? other mammals?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/06/17 1:04:43 AM #47:	InYourWalls1 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... well, most animals don't really comprehend what's going on. they're just motor functions. and if i was going to be some animal's lunch, well, i'd probably stop caring once i'm dead. http://fcmconference.org/img/CambridgeDeclarationOnConsciousness.pdf i read the entire thing. too many weasel words and too much lack of precision as to how much consciousness is relevant and how they even define consciousness. let me know when cattle have consciousness and self awareness in any meaningful sense, k? it's pointless to talk about an animal's affective states or consciousness if neither of those are in any capacity worth mentioning a cow planning to eat more grass at sunrise certainly doesn't make it wrong to eat beef EverHeardOfIt posted... what I said was that "if you were emotionally invested in an animal like a dog, you'd understand they're more than motor functions." what you came away with was that "if you understand animals are more than motor functions, then you must be emotionally invested in an animal like a dog." you switched the logical implication in the other direction, you see that? it's backwards. No you don't need to be emotionally invested into an animal like a dog, but you must have some understanding of their similar level of consciousness, which since you seemed to lack, I tried to spur on with the dog example. And you really seem to be underestimating how s*ty cattle are treated. if I gave evidence that they suffered physically or emotionally, would you accept it or change the goalposts? i have no reason to believe that animals have any meaningful capacity for understanding, except for maybe dolphins and ravens and some monkeys. and that's a big maybe, one that certainly doesn't prevent those animals from eating one another or from being eaten by animals that don't give a fuck LOL!!!!! if someone cannot adopt your level of understanding without having been emotionally invested into a pet dog, you don't have an argument - you have just an appeal to emotion EverHeardOfIt posted... well we gotta establish some axioms. like do you value human life? the life of any mammals? what is reasonable cause to cause another human suffering? other mammals? hey man, i asked what system of ethics you used to claim that it's not ethical to use animals for food. you could easily answer that question without trying to interrogate me as to what my own views are. and axioms are self evident. if we need to "establish" them in this conversation then clearly they are not self evident and maybe you don't understand basic logic <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:887902311] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>InYourWalls1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>well, most animals don't really comprehend what's going on. they're just motor functions. and if i was going to be some animal's lunch, well, i'd probably stop caring once i'm dead.</quote> http://fcmconference.org/img/CambridgeDeclarationOnConsciousness.pdf</quote> i read the entire thing. too many weasel words and too much lack of precision as to how much consciousness is relevant and how they even define consciousness. let me know when cattle have consciousness and self awareness in any meaningful sense, k? it's pointless to talk about an animal's affective states or consciousness if neither of those are in any capacity worth mentioning a cow planning to eat more grass at sunrise certainly doesn't make it wrong to eat beef <cite>EverHeardOfIt posted...</cite> <quote>what I said was that "if you were emotionally invested in an animal like a dog, you'd understand they're more than motor functions." what you came away with was that "if you understand animals are more than motor functions, then you must be emotionally invested in an animal like a dog." you switched the logical implication in the other direction, you see that? it's backwards. No you don't need to be emotionally invested into an animal like a dog, but you must have some understanding of their similar level of consciousness, which since you seemed to lack, I tried to spur on with the dog example. And you really seem to be underestimating how s*ty cattle are treated. if I gave evidence that they suffered physically or emotionally, would you accept it or change the goalposts?</quote> i have no reason to believe that animals have any meaningful capacity for understanding, except for maybe dolphins and ravens and some monkeys. and that's a big maybe, one that certainly doesn't prevent those animals from eating one another or from being eaten by animals that don't give a fuck LOL!!!!! if someone cannot adopt your level of understanding without having been emotionally invested into a pet dog, you don't have an argument - you have just an appeal to emotion <cite>EverHeardOfIt posted...</cite> <quote>well we gotta establish some axioms. like do you value human life? the life of any mammals? what is reasonable cause to cause another human suffering? other mammals? </quote> hey man, i asked what system of ethics you used to claim that it's not ethical to use animals for food. you could easily answer that question without trying to interrogate me as to what my own views are. and axioms are self evident. if we need to "establish" them in this conversation then clearly they are not self evident and maybe you don't understand basic logic</quote> ... 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EverHeardOfIt 10/06/17 1:08:05 AM #48:	FLUFFYGERM posted... if someone cannot adopt your level of understanding without having been emotionally invested into a pet dog, you don't have an argument - you have just an appeal to emotion lmao you switched the logical implication again in the same exact same way as before <cite>EverHeardOfIt posted [p:887902432] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>if someone cannot adopt your level of understanding without having been emotionally invested into a pet dog, you don't have an argument - you have just an appeal to emotion</quote> lmao you switched the logical implication again in the same exact same way as before</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/06/17 1:14:11 AM #49:	tell me again how we need to "establish axioms" <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:887902681] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote>tell me again how we need to "establish axioms"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverHeardOfIt 10/06/17 1:15:13 AM #50:	FLUFFYGERM posted... tell me again how we need to "establish axioms" we need to agree on certain basic ethical statements before we can follow those statements to their conclusion <cite>EverHeardOfIt posted [p:887902715] in Another ve... [t:75844613]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>tell me again how we need to "establish axioms"</quote> we need to agree on certain basic ethical statements before we can follow those statements to their conclusion</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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