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lderivedx
10/03/17 12:07:37 AM
#103:


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kingdrake2
10/03/17 12:08:00 AM
#104:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
wow there were some really fucking stupid people shitposting in this topic. like, unbelievably stupid.


we can't help what we do though, guess we get blamed for it.
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Dragonblade01
10/03/17 12:10:04 AM
#106:


FrisbeeDude posted...
white people comitt the overall majority of mass shootings

And?
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Ammonitida
10/03/17 12:11:24 AM
#107:


For the last two years, brown and black men were by far the majority of perps.

Mass shootings this year by race (domestic and gang shootings excluded, only random or terrorist related)

4 out of 9 were white.

1. Vegas shooting (59 dead, over 500 injured) Non-Hispanic white

2. Fort Lauderdale shooting (5 dead, 6 injured) Hispanic

3. Orlando workplace shooting (5 dead) Non-Hispanic white

4. Fresno mass shooting (3 dead, injured) Black

5. Wausau Wisconsin mass shooting (4 dead) Asian

6. San Fransisco mass shooting (3, 2 injured) Asian

7. Rockford Washington School shooting (1 dead, 3 injured) Non-Hispanic white

8. San Diego pool party shooting (1 dead, 6 injured) Non Hispanic white

9. Tennessee Church shooting (1 dead. 7 injured) Black

For 2016 (random or terrorist related)

Only 1 out of six were white

1. Pulse shooting (48 dead) Middle Eastern

2. Kalamazoo shootings (6 dead, 2 injured) Non-Hispanic White

3. Cascade Mall shooting (5 dead) Middle Eastern

4. Dallas shooting (5 dead, 11 injured) Black

5. Baton Rouge shooting (3 dead, 4 injured) Black

6. Hesston shooting (3 dead, 14 injured) Black
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DarthAragorn
10/03/17 12:12:21 AM
#108:


What was your goal with this topic

I mean I know what it was but what are you going to say it was?
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ProtoManSPx
10/03/17 12:15:31 AM
#109:


Blacks are more likely to commit, but whites have committed more. I think there lies our reality in this statistic, and why it's usually no shock when a mass shooter is white but an interesting case when black.
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ColdOne666
10/03/17 12:16:33 AM
#110:


The Admiral posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Statistics show that since 1982, the majority of mass shootings 54 percent were committed by white men, according to data from Mother Jones. Black people were the second largest perpetrators of mass shootings based on ethnic background, but only accounted for roughly 16 percent of the total incidents during the same time period.


Since white people are 68% of the population and black people are 13%, this means black people are more likely to commit mass shootings than whites, on a per person basis.


Lol TC just got rekted.
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FrisbeeDude
10/03/17 12:16:45 AM
#111:


ProtoManSPx posted...
Blacks are more likely to commit, but whites have committed more. I think there lies our reality in this statistic, and why it's usually no shock when a mass shooter is white but an interesting case when black.


They know this, but wanted to argue anyway
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SK8T3R215
10/03/17 12:17:10 AM
#112:


Yikes at this topic
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darkjedilink
10/03/17 12:24:25 AM
#113:


FrisbeeDude posted...
ProtoManSPx posted...
Blacks are more likely to commit, but whites have committed more. I think there lies our reality in this statistic, and why it's usually no shock when a mass shooter is white but an interesting case when black.

They know this, but wanted to argue anyway

Yes, we know. We ALSO know that what ProtoMan just pointed out wasn't your argument in any way.
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Ammonitida
10/03/17 12:25:48 AM
#114:


For 2015

1. San Bernardino mass shooting (14 dead, 22 injured) South Asian

2. Umpqua Community College shooting mass shooting (10 dead, 7 injured) Black

3. Charleston church shooting (9 dead, 1 injured) Non-Hispanic white

4. Chattanooga shootings (5 dead, 2 injured) Middle Eastern

5. Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood mass shooting (3 dead, 9 injured) Non-Hispanic white

6. Lafayette mass shooting (2 dead, 9 injured) Non-Hispanic white

There were 21 mass shootings (random, workplace, terrorist related) in the last three years. 38% had white male perps.
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ProtoManSPx
10/03/17 12:25:52 AM
#115:


FrisbeeDude posted...
ProtoManSPx posted...
Blacks are more likely to commit, but whites have committed more. I think there lies our reality in this statistic, and why it's usually no shock when a mass shooter is white but an interesting case when black.


They know this, but wanted to argue anyway

I figured that's what you were trying to convey. "More likely" is just probability speak and uncertainty. "Committed" is done and done.
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andel
10/03/17 12:26:19 AM
#116:


FrisbeeDude posted...
ProtoManSPx posted...
Blacks are more likely to commit, but whites have committed more. I think there lies our reality in this statistic, and why it's usually no shock when a mass shooter is white but an interesting case when black.


They know this, but wanted to argue anyway


you posted a topic detailing that black people are more likely to commit mass shootings and tried to play up the opposite as a gotcha...come on mal, why are you so slow lmao
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FrisbeeDude
10/03/17 12:26:54 AM
#117:


darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
ProtoManSPx posted...
Blacks are more likely to commit, but whites have committed more. I think there lies our reality in this statistic, and why it's usually no shock when a mass shooter is white but an interesting case when black.

They know this, but wanted to argue anyway

Yes, we know. We ALSO know that what ProtoMan just pointed out wasn't your argument in any way.


What was my argument?
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FrisbeeDude
10/03/17 12:28:26 AM
#118:


andel posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
ProtoManSPx posted...
Blacks are more likely to commit, but whites have committed more. I think there lies our reality in this statistic, and why it's usually no shock when a mass shooter is white but an interesting case when black.


They know this, but wanted to argue anyway


you posted a topic detailing that black people are more likely to commit mass shootings and tried to play up the opposite as a gotcha...come on mal, why are you so slow lmao


Lmao what gotcha? All I did was post a topic without comment, addy jumped in with "muh percentages" and a bunch followed behind.
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darkjedilink
10/03/17 12:33:34 AM
#119:


FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
ProtoManSPx posted...
Blacks are more likely to commit, but whites have committed more. I think there lies our reality in this statistic, and why it's usually no shock when a mass shooter is white but an interesting case when black.

They know this, but wanted to argue anyway

Yes, we know. We ALSO know that what ProtoMan just pointed out wasn't your argument in any way.

What was my argument?

That white people are more dangerous than black people, cuz mass shootingz.
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Ammonitida
10/03/17 12:37:44 AM
#120:


ColdOne666 posted...
The Admiral posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Statistics show that since 1982, the majority of mass shootings 54 percent were committed by white men, according to data from Mother Jones. Black people were the second largest perpetrators of mass shootings based on ethnic background, but only accounted for roughly 16 percent of the total incidents during the same time period.


Since white people are 68% of the population and black people are 13%, this means black people are more likely to commit mass shootings than whites, on a per person basis.


Lol TC just got rekted.


No, I rekted him. You have to reach back to the 1980s when Non-Hispanic whites were around 80% of the US population to get these numbers. If you limit it to the last three years when whites were only 62% of the population, the majority of mass shooters are not white.
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mitsuruji gun
10/03/17 12:39:05 AM
#121:


FrisbeeDude posted...
http://www.newsweek.com/white-men-have-committed-more-mass-shootings-any-other-group-675602?amp=1

The deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history was shocking in its scale but it wasn't a surprise that it was committed by a white male.

Statistics show that since 1982, the majority of mass shootings 54 percent were committed by white men, according to data from Mother Jones. Black people were the second largest perpetrators of mass shootings based on ethnic background, but only accounted for roughly 16 percent of the total incidents during the same time period.

The average age of the shooters was 35, however, making the perpetrator in Las Vegas, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, somewhat of an outlier. It is too early to say if mental illness played a role in Paddock's case, but it has in a number of mass shootings, though it is perhaps too frequently pointed to as the primary cause.

Other research suggests white men commit mass shootings out of a sense of entitlement.

James Holmes, for example, had failed out of his PhD program when he opened fire in a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado. Dylann Roof was unemployed when he gunned down nine people at the end of a prayer service in a Charteston, South Carolina church.

"There's a feeling of entitlement that white men have that black men don't," criminologist James Alan Fox told The Washington Post in 2012. "They often complain that their job was taken by blacks or Mexicans or Jews. They feel that a well-paid job is their birthright. It's a blow to their psyche when they lose that. . . . If you're a member of a group that hasn't historically experienced unemployment, there's a far greater stigma to [losing a job] than those who have."


Can't argue with that. Oh let me guess..."but...but...Chicago..." pathetic!
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mitsuruji gun
10/03/17 12:47:30 AM
#122:


Ammonitida posted...
For the last two years, brown and black men were by far the majority of perps.

Mass shootings this year by race (domestic and gang shootings excluded, only random or terrorist related)

4 out of 9 were white.

1. Vegas shooting (59 dead, over 500 injured) Non-Hispanic white

2. Fort Lauderdale shooting (5 dead, 6 injured) Hispanic

3. Orlando workplace shooting (5 dead) Non-Hispanic white

4. Fresno mass shooting (3 dead, injured) Black

5. Wausau Wisconsin mass shooting (4 dead) Asian

6. San Fransisco mass shooting (3, 2 injured) Asian

7. Rockford Washington School shooting (1 dead, 3 injured) Non-Hispanic white

8. San Diego pool party shooting (1 dead, 6 injured) Non Hispanic white

9. Tennessee Church shooting (1 dead. 7 injured) Black

For 2016 (random or terrorist related)

Only 1 out of six were white

1. Pulse shooting (48 dead) Middle Eastern

2. Kalamazoo shootings (6 dead, 2 injured) Non-Hispanic White

3. Cascade Mall shooting (5 dead) Middle Eastern

4. Dallas shooting (5 dead, 11 injured) Black

5. Baton Rouge shooting (3 dead, 4 injured) Black

6. Hesston shooting (3 dead, 14 injured) Black


Are you smoking crack again?

Listen snowflake, face the facts that when you hear mass murder/shooting it's white people. This is why you'll never get over this gun control issue. You still think it's your right as a white guy to be innocent. You make me laugh. Mexicans are treated so badly that the President is trying to throw them out. Also for Blacks, yeah...lets not go back in US history or nothing.
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Ammonitida
10/03/17 12:50:04 AM
#123:


mitsuruji gun posted...
Ammonitida posted...
For the last two years, brown and black men were by far the majority of perps.

Mass shootings this year by race (domestic and gang shootings excluded, only random or terrorist related)

4 out of 9 were white.

1. Vegas shooting (59 dead, over 500 injured) Non-Hispanic white

2. Fort Lauderdale shooting (5 dead, 6 injured) Hispanic

3. Orlando workplace shooting (5 dead) Non-Hispanic white

4. Fresno mass shooting (3 dead, injured) Black

5. Wausau Wisconsin mass shooting (4 dead) Asian

6. San Fransisco mass shooting (3, 2 injured) Asian

7. Rockford Washington School shooting (1 dead, 3 injured) Non-Hispanic white

8. San Diego pool party shooting (1 dead, 6 injured) Non Hispanic white

9. Tennessee Church shooting (1 dead. 7 injured) Black

For 2016 (random or terrorist related)

Only 1 out of six were white

1. Pulse shooting (48 dead) Middle Eastern

2. Kalamazoo shootings (6 dead, 2 injured) Non-Hispanic White

3. Cascade Mall shooting (5 dead) Middle Eastern

4. Dallas shooting (5 dead, 11 injured) Black

5. Baton Rouge shooting (3 dead, 4 injured) Black

6. Hesston shooting (3 dead, 14 injured) Black


Are you smoking crack again?

Listen snowflake, face the facts that when you hear mass murder/shooting it's white people. This is why you'll never get over this gun control issue. You still think it's your right as a white guy to be innocent. You make me laugh. Mexicans are treated so badly that the President is trying to throw them out. Also for Blacks, yeah...lets not go back in US history or nothing.


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CatataFish462
10/03/17 12:51:05 AM
#124:


The Admiral posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Statistics show that since 1982, the majority of mass shootings 54 percent were committed by white men, according to data from Mother Jones. Black people were the second largest perpetrators of mass shootings based on ethnic background, but only accounted for roughly 16 percent of the total incidents during the same time period.


Since white people are 68% of the population and black people are 13%, this means black people are more likely to commit mass shootings than whites, on a per person basis.


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VandorLee
10/03/17 12:52:29 AM
#125:


I like how EVERY SINGLE PERSON is racist and we just sit around calling each other racist and just say "nu-uh, you are!"
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Darksaber310
10/03/17 12:52:54 AM
#126:


So statistics that the TC linked became racist once it realized it didn't understand them? Hilariously cute.

You know shouting racist isn't an argument right?
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UncleBourbon33
10/03/17 12:55:44 AM
#127:


Somehow Admiral is the racist and not TC.

MY god the SJWism on this board.
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Ammonitida
10/03/17 12:58:41 AM
#128:


Darksaber310 posted...
So statistics that the TC linked became racist once it realized it didn't understand them? Hilariously cute.

You know shouting racist isn't an argument right?


The topic title "White men have committed more mass shootings than any other group" is not inconsistent with the statistics provided.
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ShinigamiSoul
10/03/17 1:04:14 AM
#129:


The Admiral posted...
ShinigamiSoul posted...
The Admiral posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
And what useful information are we meant to glean from these statistics?


That black people are more likely to commit mass shootings than whites

LOL ok Addison


That's exactly what it says. Join the TC in the club of people who don't understand how statistical rates work.

@The_Admiral I get you, but that's obviously not how it's worked out in real life. Most folks are still genuinely taken aback at the news of a black mass shooter despite them being more likely to commit. Black folks are also not stereotyped as mass shooters despite being more likely to commit.
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Ammonitida
10/03/17 1:05:07 AM
#130:


CatataFish462 posted...
The Admiral posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Statistics show that since 1982, the majority of mass shootings 54 percent were committed by white men, according to data from Mother Jones. Black people were the second largest perpetrators of mass shootings based on ethnic background, but only accounted for roughly 16 percent of the total incidents during the same time period.


Since white people are 68% of the population and black people are 13%, this means black people are more likely to commit mass shootings than whites, on a per person basis.


Truth


So what? The black "overrepresentation" during the time frame studied is statistically insignificant.
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DezCaughtIt
10/03/17 1:05:49 AM
#131:


Bad topic

Bad bad baaaad topic
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RainblowDash
10/03/17 1:08:20 AM
#132:


DezCaughtIt posted...
Bad topic

Bad bad baaaad topic


Indeed, it backfired so hard lmao
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bevan306
10/03/17 1:10:18 AM
#133:


one of those wonderful topics where everyone looks bad
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CADE FOSTER
10/03/17 1:12:48 AM
#134:


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Ammonitida
10/03/17 1:14:32 AM
#135:


I is smart posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
CADE FOSTER posted...
apocalyptic_4 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
"Just posting statistics bro, math doesn't lie. Wait, what's math saying about white people?"


"Statistics is ok to paint a group in a negative light unless it's about whites"

This


Except your statistics here paint whites in a better light comparatively speaking so...


No they do not. A meager overrepresentation does not look worse than 54% of perps being white.
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APM
10/03/17 1:14:43 AM
#136:


lolololol middle east
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FrisbeeDude
10/03/17 1:20:57 AM
#137:


It's just so...odd how defensive so many people got

"We know what you're saying, TC, but blacks are actually more likely to commit mass shooting LOL"

"Ok...what was I trying to say in a topic in which I posted an article with no comment?"

*insert whatever nonsense here*
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FrisbeeDude
10/03/17 1:22:15 AM
#138:


No they do not. A meager overrepresentation does not look worse than 54% of perps being white.

Why do they want that to be the case so badly though?
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Darksaber310
10/03/17 1:24:44 AM
#139:


FrisbeeDude posted...
It's just so...odd how defensive so many people got

"We know what you're saying, TC, but blacks are actually more likely to commit mass shooting LOL"

"Ok...what was I trying to say in a topic in which I posted an article with no comment?"

*insert whatever nonsense here*


I'm pretty sure it was the part after you posted where statistics became intellectually dishonest, and posters of them, racists. Ironically sourced from your article.
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Dragonblade01
10/03/17 1:27:12 AM
#140:


And?
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I is smart
10/03/17 2:16:05 AM
#141:


Ammonitida posted...
I is smart posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
CADE FOSTER posted...
apocalyptic_4 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
"Just posting statistics bro, math doesn't lie. Wait, what's math saying about white people?"


"Statistics is ok to paint a group in a negative light unless it's about whites"

This


Except your statistics here paint whites in a better light comparatively speaking so...


No they do not. A meager overrepresentation does not look worse than 54% of perps being white.


Perhaps not by itself, but the underrepresentation of whites who make up 68% of the population combined with that overrepresentation does. Provided the 54/68% and 16/13% numbers are accurate anyway.

Seriously though how is it any surprise that a majority population group is responsible for the largest percentage of almost anything? Do they just not teach kids how statistics work in school anymore? Frisbee and other racists are soooo desperate to paint white people as a problem for this crap, when the fact is it's a statistical anomaly when white people aren't at the top of the list for any figure that goes by total number of occurences.

Yes when a mass shooting occurs it is most likely a white guy that was responsible. But according to his own article, any single white person is in fact, less likely to commit a mass shooting than any single black person.
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apocalyptic_4
10/03/17 2:38:09 AM
#142:


Pointing out how these kind of topics are made here all the time about other minority groups and CE goes along with it but when it's directed the opposite way all of sudden you get the opposite reaction.

The point is it always looks bad to use "statistics" and lol "facts" to try and make one group of people look bad cause you obviously have a agenda when doing so. Especially when you try to use that to push the idea that the problem is exclusively tied to race.

Something the admiral is famous for doing here.
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Kamiccolohan
10/03/17 3:16:02 AM
#143:


The media really is anti white...

That one website that got nuked not long ago was right about a few things, and for me, being a minority, having to admit that is a slap to my own face...

These libs are creating a race problem where there doesn't need to be one. They really need to stop before shit hits the fan...
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Bryan_the_Lion
10/03/17 3:18:34 AM
#144:


White men have it in their blood.
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ShinigamiSoul
10/03/17 3:20:13 AM
#145:


Bryan_the_Lion posted...
Stop.
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Alkeez
10/03/17 3:26:49 AM
#146:


I dont live in the US, but should black vs white really matter here? Isnt it how easy it is to get guns that is the problem? Its not a white only or a black only issue
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Mr_MacPhisto
10/03/17 3:31:17 AM
#147:


I love that this topic's obvious purpose is to troll CE and stir up resentment and blame towards whites. Apparently that's totally ok.

Meanwhile, if it were about Islam/Muslims after a European massacre, it would be locked or deleted. Which has happened on numerous occasions.

Curious.
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Alkeez
10/03/17 3:39:35 AM
#148:


Mr_MacPhisto posted...
I love that this topic's obvious purpose is to troll CE and stir up resentment and blame towards whites. Apparently that's totally ok.

Meanwhile, if it were about Islam/Muslims after a European massacre, it would be locked or deleted. Which has happened on numerous occasions.

Curious.


Is that true? Like when its similarly done?

Well, im guessing that not many people will start to hate all whites for this. But innocent muslims/brown people seem to be targeted by hate groups in several European countries for actions done by extremes and deranged people - probably in the US as well

If its true what you say, it might be a reaction to that mentality. That or blaming religions tends to bring out worse language?
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Deadpool_18
10/03/17 6:25:46 AM
#149:


GOATTHlEF posted...
Can't believe someone this racist was ever a mod.


*shrug*
I can.
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the_cajun88
10/03/17 6:36:01 AM
#150:


How about not being racist at all?

It's not about what race the shooters were, some people were fucking shot.

People care more about the race of the person shooting than the well being of the victims.
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10/03/17 8:02:18 AM
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