Current Events > shooters brother reveals he was not a "gun guy"

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Joeydollaz
10/02/17 12:55:30 PM
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Fishy
10/03/17 10:46:36 AM
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So he was rich, not a gun guy, has no motivation at all, had a full armory in the hotel room (23 guns counted currently not to mention the 19 more in his residence for a total of 42 guns), was "found" dead of a self inflicted sound when the police arrived, no prior mental issues at all, completely surprised everyone that knew him.

This is weird.
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EffectAndCause
10/04/17 5:34:46 AM
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We all have our public lives and our private lives.

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EternalDivide
10/04/17 5:43:15 AM
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Usually after you get through the initial "He was such a quiet guy. He was so nice." etc. responses from neighbors and friends there's always something that comes out in the ensuing days that lead to a motive. A post, a letter, a manifesto. A secret life but one easily discovered once the investigation begins. Then the talk of why didn't someone recognize the problems, why didn't someone say something.

But this is just so bizarre. There's nothing. And the level of planning here is incredible. There had to be a reason, a motive. Something that made him snap, zero in on this crowd. But the fact that's there's nothing is crazy.
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JimmyJumper6
10/04/17 5:47:25 AM
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Meh, what does the brother know about the shooter? Obviously not much, the shooter led on a different life when not around people it seems
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EternalDivide
10/04/17 5:53:52 AM
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The possible motives I've seen being thrown around all go nowhere.

ISIS? No. He had no affiliation to any of that.
Gambling debts/grudge against the casino? No. Because he would have shot up the casino. Not the concert across the street.
Political/ideological/religious motive? Supposedly the guy had no real stance on any of it.
Mental illness? Well obviously it takes a psycho to do this but he didn't have a history of any that was documented.
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gafemaqs
10/04/17 5:54:43 AM
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EternalDivide posted...
Something that made him snap, zero in on this crowd.

I read he originally was going to do this at another concert (not sure which, I read it had Lorde and Chance the Rapper there)

Is that's true, seems he really just wanted to do something abhorrent. No matter to who.
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Akagami_Shanks
10/04/17 5:55:01 AM
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who cares, he killed those people, we don't make excuses for other people that kill others, why should we now?
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Akagami_Shanks
10/04/17 6:56:09 AM
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27_Sandman_40 posted...
Akagami_Shanks posted...
who cares, he killed those people, we don't make excuses for other people that kill others, why should we now?


Because if the reasons dont add up we could be potentially missing out on the whole story. But yeah, you could choose to think like a child.

okay, then do this for every shooting.
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pinky0926
10/04/17 6:58:16 AM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
who cares, he killed those people, we don't make excuses for other people that kill others, why should we now?


It's less about making excuses and more about trying to understand the factors that contributed to something awful that happened.
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Romulox28
10/04/17 7:00:27 AM
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27_Sandman_40 posted...
Its possible he was set up.

if you were going to set someone up, you wouldnt set up a guy who doesnt fit the profile at all, you'd find some dude who was in and out of prison for violent crimes or something
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DanHarenChamp
10/04/17 7:40:17 AM
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27_Sandman_40 posted...
Its possible he was set up.

Congrats you've taken the cake for dumbest opinions in this board.
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Doom_Art
10/04/17 7:45:02 AM
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Yeah I'm not seeing why this would be a set up.

A) There's nothing for really any outside group to gain here
B) As someone else said above, if people were trying to set someone up for it, they wouldn't pick a guy who doesn't fit the MO at all
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lowtides
10/04/17 7:53:16 AM
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As I said before people have thought every single shooting was "fishy". We just went through the same thing last year w Orlando Pulse
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Insanity216
10/04/17 7:53:55 AM
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The brother who lives in Orlando has no idea what kind of life his brother leads in Mesquite, NV. Shocking!!! Does the media wish to get more exciting insights from other relatives? Maybe a second cousin from Europe?
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Doom_Art
10/04/17 7:56:17 AM
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Insanity216 posted...
The brother who lives in Orlando has no idea what kind of life his brother leads in Mesquite, NV. Shocking!!! Does the media wish to get more exciting insights from other relatives? Maybe a second cousin from Europe?

I mean the guy was his brother

sure he probably didn't have a huge knowledge into the finer details of his day to day life, but they presumably were close (he helped him move) and he knew him for several decades

so he presumably has some sort of insight into the guy's life and how he works
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Chicken
10/04/17 7:56:20 AM
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It was the girlfriend. She shot him and fled.
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L0Z
10/04/17 7:56:40 AM
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another source claimed that the brother is a liar and that Stephen was a loaner and that his father was arrested for bank robbery
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Doom_Art
10/04/17 7:57:09 AM
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Chicken posted...
It was the girlfriend. She shot him and fled.

she shot him

and then fled while the only exit out was barricaded?
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Insanity216
10/04/17 7:59:04 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Chicken posted...
It was the girlfriend. She shot him and fled.

she shot him

and then fled while the only exit out was barricaded?

She escaped from the 32nd floor with a squad of SWAT teams in the room. Sounds legit.
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L0Z
10/04/17 7:59:41 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Chicken posted...
It was the girlfriend. She shot him and fled.

she shot him

and then fled while the only exit out was barricaded?


This and she was and still is in the Philippines since a week earlier
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Chicken
10/04/17 8:04:16 AM
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L0Z posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Chicken posted...
It was the girlfriend. She shot him and fled.

she shot him

and then fled while the only exit out was barricaded?


This and she was and still is in the Philippines since a week earlier


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The Top Crusader
10/04/17 8:05:42 AM
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DanHarenChamp posted...
27_Sandman_40 posted...
Its possible he was set up.

Congrats you've taken the cake for dumbest opinions in this board.


Apparently there is some random guy who was there who claims there was two shooters, so half my Facebook is all OMG CONSPIRACY!!!! Because definitely the one random guy didn't make it up to get famous or even just be confused based on the chaos.

Anyway, it does seem like the shooter snapped... but then again, if you just suddenly snap, maybe you have a gun or two and go on a rampage. He snapped and then managed to get ahold of an armory and plan out an elaborate death trap over a long period of time, I presume. That just seems like more than just "snapping."
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Thompson
10/04/17 8:12:15 AM
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The Top Crusader posted...
DanHarenChamp posted...
27_Sandman_40 posted...
Its possible he was set up.

Congrats you've taken the cake for dumbest opinions in this board.


Apparently there is some random guy who was there who claims there was two shooters, so half my Facebook is all OMG CONSPIRACY!!!! Because definitely the one random guy didn't make it up to get famous or even just be confused based on the chaos.

Anyway, it does seem like the shooter snapped... but then again, if you just suddenly snap, maybe you have a gun or two and go on a rampage. He snapped and then managed to get ahold of an armory and plan out an elaborate death trap over a long period of time, I presume. That just seems like more than just "snapping."


He could've snapped weeks ago, which lead to the devising of a more elaborate plan than going on a rampage in the nearest Home Depot ten minutes after losing hs marbles.
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NeonOctopus
10/04/17 8:12:21 AM
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Yeah, this guy is such an oddball. I really want to know what the investigation finds >_>
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Lorenzo_2003
10/04/17 8:22:46 AM
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EternalDivide posted...

But this is just so bizarre. There's nothing. And the level of planning here is incredible. There had to be a reason, a motive. Something that made him snap, zero in on this crowd. But the fact that's there's nothing is crazy.


I think somebody heard or saw him do something that could have been, with hindsight, considered at least questionable. I don't believe anyone will now admit to it, though. This is like suicide. There are always clues. We interact with one another, but we've all got our own problems and our own lives to live. Anyway, hypothetically speaking, who would ever want to mention they once heard this guy talk about shooting people when they had dinner with him a couple years ago?
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1337toothbrush
10/04/17 8:29:46 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Chicken posted...
It was the girlfriend. She shot him and fled.

she shot him

and then fled while the only exit out was barricaded?

Obviously she barricaded the door after leaving.
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LethalAffinity
10/04/17 4:38:22 PM
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Darmik
10/04/17 4:49:06 PM
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Maybe he simply killed people because he wanted to and he had the weapons available to do so. He's gonna be in the history books now for it.
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sondast
10/04/17 4:55:00 PM
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He doesn't know what his brother was into because he admits that they didn't talk much.

We didnt talk much. We talked when there was something to talk about, Eric Paddock said. Steve had no help. Steve did not take help. He was a stand-alone guy.

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OpShaft
10/04/17 5:13:44 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Yeah I'm not seeing why this would be a set up.

A) There's nothing for really any outside group to gain here
B) As someone else said above, if people were trying to set someone up for it, they wouldn't pick a guy who doesn't fit the MO at all


This is exactly why they would pick him. You'd never suspect it. I don't believe that, but here it is.
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K181
10/04/17 5:16:23 PM
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Family and neighbors of a muderer always claim to be shocked. Why would the continuation of this formula be noteworthy?

Source: literally every single mass shooting/serial killer apprehension ever.
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darkphoenix181
10/04/17 5:17:32 PM
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you know

what if ISIS captured his gf in the phillipines

and told him to do this or they would kill her

assuming authorities don't find her safe and sound

it would make sense and normal guy with no motivation would do such a thing
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Trayvon
10/04/17 5:18:32 PM
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this some psyops or government set up shit to take the guns away?
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Darmik
10/04/17 5:19:45 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
you know

what if ISIS captured his gf in the phillipines

and told him to do this or they would kill her

assuming authorities don't find her safe and sound

it would make sense and normal guy with no motivation would do such a thing


What if he was possessed by the ghost of Hitler? Good grief.

She already has flown back to America btw
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CADE FOSTER
10/04/17 5:20:51 PM
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DreadedWave
10/04/17 5:21:36 PM
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Hillary used her reptilian mind powers to make him do it obviously.
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darkphoenix181
10/04/17 5:22:31 PM
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Darmik posted...
She already has flown back to America btw


ok

just saying, there are ways in a which a normal guy with no motivation might actually do something like this that aren't government conspiracy
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CADE FOSTER
10/04/17 5:22:44 PM
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Darmik
10/04/17 5:26:03 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
just saying, there are ways in a which a normal guy with no motivation might actually do something like this that aren't government conspiracy


And how are ISIS supposed to blackmail a man in America from the Phillipines without anyone else finding out?
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ChromaticAngel
10/04/17 5:30:24 PM
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EternalDivide posted...
Gambling debts/grudge against the casino? No. Because he would have shot up the casino. Not the concert across the street.

No.

If someone snaps and just wants to shoot a bunch of fucking random people they won't always target the thing that made them snap in the first place.

Especially if he was being blackmailed by the mob. If organized crime is threatening to kill your family, shooting up something they have a stake in is a really really bad idea.
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mortimerjames
10/04/17 5:32:18 PM
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well his brother would know, i'm sure we all know everything about our family members too
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Darmik
10/04/17 5:33:36 PM
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He sent 100k overseas. Would be weird if a casino let him rack up gambling debts way higher than that and he doesn't really seem like someone who has connections to the mob.

I think people should prepare for no explanation or motive. It's not like anything could possibly justify why he did it anyway. Some people are just monsters.
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metralo
10/04/17 5:34:43 PM
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glad this guy was white, that means there's N O W A Y he could have done it it M U S T be a setup!!!!!!!1
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mortimerjames
10/04/17 5:36:22 PM
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any of you guys remember the old guy from california who was found dead in his car with a bunch of guns and cash?

ancient aliens tried to say he was a sleeper cell reptilian, maybe this guy is one who succeeded

although the real story was that guy was insane and brainwashed his rich gf
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