Current Events > Has Rick and morty surpassed South Park?

(+) Yeah! (+)

Rick and morty is fresh comedy that gets better and better while South Park is inconsistent
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South Park is on season 21, so it's not a fair comparison
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R&M's new episodes are a lot better than South Park's new episodes, but that's mostly due to the fact that SP is in its 20th season. R&M has a ton of potential, but it has a very long way to go if it wants to top South Park's legacy
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robellr13 posted...

Rick and morty is fresh comedy

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Lolno.
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Rick and Morty hasn't touched prime South Park yet.
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Hell no.
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South Park is bad, and Rick and Morty is good for the most part
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0AbsoluteZero0 posted...

R&M's new episodes are a lot better than South Park's new episodes, but that's mostly due to the fact that SP is in its 20th season. R&M has a ton of potential, but it has a very long way to go if it wants to top South Park's legacy

This.

I like R&M, it's an enjoyable and well made show, but the best SP is extremely far ahead of its best.
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I don't see how South Park is better.

Rick and Morty isn't even funny at least prime South Park is good.

Big Lez Show > South Park IMO
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Rick and Morty has been on for 4 years and has 3 seasons.

South Park has been on for 20 years and has 21 seasons.

Give R&M some time and I'm sure they'll start putting out some shit episodes too, like all shows do eventually.
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Hahahahahaha, no animated comedy will ever touch prime South Park.

Rick & Morty's "LOL SO RANDOM" shtick will wear off very soon.
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Family Guy 1-3 is still the pinnacle of animated comedy, Rick and Morty is close
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I'm not sure how anyone can call it "fresh." Rick and Morty is just re-treading Futurama with the nihilistic and depressive themes that are in vogue cranked up to 11.
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EffectAndCause posted...

Hahahahahaha, no animated comedy will ever touch prime South Park.

Rick & Morty's "LOL SO RANDOM" shtick will wear off very soon.

It literally never plays that card.
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Deadpool_18 posted...

EffectAndCause posted...

Hahahahahaha, no animated comedy will ever touch prime South Park.

Rick & Morty's "LOL SO RANDOM" shtick will wear off very soon.

It literally never plays that card.

That defines its existence.
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Prime south park, no
Current south park, yes

But let's be fair, southpark IS on season 21.
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Rick and Morty barely made a decent season 3.

At least south park went 10+ seasons before it started to feel stale.
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Hell I think boondocks is better than South Park
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DanielCormier posted...

I'm not sure how anyone can call it "fresh." Rick and Morty is just re-treading Futurama with the nihilistic and depressive themes that are in vogue cranked up to 11.

I'm not entirely sure what they're re-treading unless you're going to say any animated Sci-fi comedy is derivative of Futurama. That's so broad and pointless a definition so as to lose any meaning. The way the main characters drive the conflict between each other, the entire tone of the show, the direction of it's absurdist content, the focus on more imaginative settings and abstract concepts in contrast to Futurama's modern analogs and social commentary, the relative lack of pop culture references compared to Futurama, ect. ect. I could spend far more effort describing what's substantatively different between the two than similar.

The criticism of its roots in nihilism might hold water if there was any other major shows that used nihilism, or critiques of it, as a pillar of their writing. What evidence prior to R&M was there that themes of nihilism were "in vogue" in the media at that time? It's a criticism without a point to it.
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Rick & Morty is and has always been better than South Park has been for the past like 15 years
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Deadpool_18 posted...

EffectAndCause posted...

Hahahahahaha, no animated comedy will ever touch prime South Park.

Rick & Morty's "LOL SO RANDOM" shtick will wear off very soon.

It literally never plays that card.

Some of the most beloved episodes are the Interdimensional Television ones, which are literally just random skits.
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South Park season 21 >>> Rick Morty Season 3
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Venture Bros. tops them all.
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Anteaterking posted...

Deadpool_18 posted...

EffectAndCause posted...

Hahahahahaha, no animated comedy will ever touch prime South Park.

Rick & Morty's "LOL SO RANDOM" shtick will wear off very soon.

It literally never plays that card.

Some of the most beloved episodes are the Interdimensional Television ones, which are literally just random skits.

As if South Park has never used the "lol so random" bit before.

Mecha Barbara Streisand

Crab People

Giant Hamsters because of Chilean Flute Bands

Go God Go and Go God Go XII

Imaginationland

I could go on.
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I'm pickle rick!!!
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Pogo_Marimo posted...

Anteaterking posted...

Deadpool_18 posted...

EffectAndCause posted...

Hahahahahaha, no animated comedy will ever touch prime South Park.

Rick & Morty's "LOL SO RANDOM" shtick will wear off very soon.

It literally never plays that card.

Some of the most beloved episodes are the Interdimensional Television ones, which are literally just random skits.

As if South Park has never used the "lol so random" bit before.

Mecha Barbara Streisand

Crab People

Giant Hamsters because of Chilean Flute Bands

Go God Go and Go God Go XII

Imaginationland

I could go on.

Lemmywinks etc

The fuckin voiceacting itself is even "random" humor half the time with the over-dramatization bit that nobody with two braincells to rub together finds funny, as well as the "lol goofy pronunciation" that often goes hand-in-hand with it ie "Lemmywinks" being "LEMMEHWINKS"

Basically fuck South Park after it stopped being about 10 year olds swearing
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have never felt compelled to watch all of south park but have seen all rick and morty

that settles that
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Idk what you mean by surpassed. Critical reception? Revenue? Cultural relevance? Personal enjoyment/quality?

Regardless, most of those answers are "no, RM has not surpassed SP". SP has 20 seasons and has way more impact on television, audiences, and even censorship on TV overall. It's not quite as influential on culture as Simpsons but it's probably just right under it.

In terms of preference, I LOVE Rick and Morty, but I still like South Park, and if you were to take the top 30 SP episodes and compare them to RM's ~30 episodes, it'd be harder to judge. However, it's clear that SP has the much stronger legacy
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It what sense? Generally no
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it feels weird to compare the two.

comparing futurama to rick and morty makes more sense to me.
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prettyprincess posted...

have never felt compelled to watch all of south park but have seen all rick and morty

that settles that

Yeah, hundreds of episodes versus dozens.
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Rick and Morty is nothing but belching for 25 minutes straight. I don't get how anyone enjoys it
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DezCaughtIt posted...

Rick and Morty is nothing but belching for 25 minutes straight. I don't get how anyone enjoys it

Well that's demonstrably untrue. If you're going to criticize something you might as well put more effort into it than that, otherwise you just look like an idiot.
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Pogo_Marimo posted...

As if South Park has never used the "lol so random" bit before.

I'm not saying anything about South Park, the guy just said that R&M never tried to be lol random.
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I'm in the minority who actually enjoys south parks' satire, I thought the last three seasons were hilarious. As much as I love rick and morty I would have to give South Park the edge though these past few episodes have been pretty lame
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robellr13 posted...

Hell I think boondocks is better than South Park

Same but they aren't really two shows I would compare. Also Boondocks S4 was not very good.
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R&M hasn't come remotely close to prime SP.
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AceAttorneyist posted...

Yeah, hundreds of episodes versus dozens.

the dozens of the hundreds that I've seen were a less compelling set of dozens
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Pogo_Marimo posted...

DezCaughtIt posted...

Rick and Morty is nothing but belching for 25 minutes straight. I don't get how anyone enjoys it

Well that's demonstrably untrue. If you're going to criticize something you might as well put more effort into it than that, otherwise you just look like an idiot.

Literally anytime I flip onto it when it's on all I hear is the old dude going BUUUUUUUURP
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DezCaughtIt posted...

Literally anytime I flip onto it when it's on all I hear is the old dude going BUUUUUUUURP

He said put more effort. All you did was reword the same thing you said.
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Why should I just make shit up when that's all my sample size has to show

The whole show was definitely an exaggeration

But BUUUUUUUURP
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south park hasn't been funny in an extremely long time
the writers fell into that adult cartoonist's trap where they mistakenly assume that pointing out that some cultural phenomenon exists makes the content automatically funny and good

NeuralLaxative posted...

I'm in the minority who actually enjoys south parks' satire, I thought the last three seasons were hilarious. As much as I love rick and morty I would have to give South Park the edge though these past few episodes have been pretty lame

I respectfully disagree. I think the last episodes were really funny, but the troll season was pretty bad.
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NeuralLaxative posted...

I'm in the minority who actually enjoys south parks' satire, I thought the last three seasons were hilarious. As much as I love rick and morty I would have to give South Park the edge though these past few episodes have been pretty lame

Nah, you're not in the minority. Last 3 seasons were on point. It's just that CE has shit taste. Most people like them.
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Pogo_Marimo posted...

Mecha Barbara Streisand

Crab People

Giant Hamsters because of Chilean Flute Bands

Go God Go and Go God Go XII

Imaginationland

I think it's less that these things are random and more that you don't get the references?

MechaStreisand was a direct parody of kaiju films and was deliberately crafted so that they could pit a celebrity they don't like (Barbara) against a bunch of celebrities they respect (Maltin, The Cure, Poitier). It may seem random to have all of these people turn into giant monsters, but even the monsters are direct homages to MechaGodzilla, Mothra, Gamera and Ultraman. In a vacuum, this episode seems a bit strange, but as a stand-alone kaiju parody, it is a well-crafted one that borrows and satirizes tropes from the target films.

Crab People is probably the most random of things you mentioned. I'll give you this one.

Acthuality, they were giant guinea pigs that were summoned by Peruvian flute bands. OMG, soooo random, right? Nope, it's a very logical progression again used to parody apocalyptic disaster films. Guinea pigs are a native animal Peru and were very important in both ancient and modern Peruvian culture where they were bred, farmed, and eaten. It's an ancient culture linked with disastrous elements related to a native species. Bizarre, yes. Random, no.

Go God Go is a direct parody of old pulp science fiction TV and movies such as Flash Gordon or Buck Rogers. I'm not even sure what the 'random' element is here. The ottters? Sure, I guess, but plenty of science fiction has anthropomorphic animals. Is Beyond Good and Evil soooo random because it has a Pig Man (among others)? Is Star Wars soooo random because it has a beeping trash can and a man made of fur? No, and nobody would ever claim as such. Future worlds and fiction are often defined by their non-human races and Go God Go is no exception.

Imaginationland is probably the least random and it is made out to be a "what-if story". What if all the imaginary characters we know and love actually lived in a physical realm together? It's a fantasy story and everything is deliberate from the council of nine featuring very powerful and/or iconic characters and which character gets to live in the "good" world vs in the "evil" world.

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Compare this to Rick and Morty which uses its Interdimensional Cable episodes as an outlet for Mr. Roiland to ramble on about whatever he wants and then draw some funny pictures over those diatribes. Yes, it's grounded in a guise of "there are infinite universes, so this makes perfect sense in world", but it seems more like they use that premise to go off on some weird Tim-and-Eric-esque bender rather than using the strange universe of the show to craft something unique. Don't get me wrong, my favorite episodes of R&M of all time was the Alien Parasites episode which is rife with random stuff, but I'd argue that South Park is muuuuuch less random-for-random-sake than R&M in general.
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LMAO no. South Park s10-21 is awful, but prime SP >>>>>
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ReD_ToMaTo posted...

R&M hasn't come remotely close to prime SP.

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