Current Events > Is there any depictions of skinny, tall white man Jesus before the Renaissance?

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I heard about theorys that our depictions of JC comes from Cesare Borgia (AssCreed 2). That the original Jesus was a stout brown man with short hair and his beard wasn't conditioned that well.

Is there any depictions of Jesus before Cesare? That's 1100 years of no one drawing the dude?
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Correct me if I'm won't but Jesus didn't exist until he founded America and he looked a bit like George Washington
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http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article7683901.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/painting.jpg
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Aren't there accounts of the J man being taller and fairer than most people around him?
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MachoManSavage posted...

Is there any depictions of Jesus before Cesare? That's 1100 years of no one drawing the dude?

In this case I don't feel it's necessary to dredge up an image link or wiki article in order to say yes, yes there were.
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Too bad Mary didn't ask that angel for a smartphone
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How does the Bible describe Jesus appearance?
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ShinobiNinjaX posted...

How does the Bible describe Jesus appearance?

Ugly.

Jesus was a white man. Here's proof.

Most versions of this say that "Jesus had curly hair and a reddish complexion".[33] Others say his face was flushed as if he just had a bath ("a reddish man with many freckles on his face as if he had just come from a bath"[34][35]). In another account from Bukhari Jesus is seen in a dream near the Kaaba, as "a man of a wheatish complexion with straight hair. I asked who it was. They said: This is the Messiah, son of Mary".[36] However, other narrations give variations in the color. Salim ibn Abd-Allah reports from his father Abdullah ibn Umar that the prophet "did not say that Jesus was of red complexion", rather he was "a man of brown complexion and lank hair".[37] In contrast Abd Allah ibn Abbas says that Jesus was of "moderate complexion inclined to the red and white colors and of lank hair."[38]

These variations have been explained in various ways, and have been co-opted to make assertions about race. For example, Ana Echevarría notes that medieval Spanish writer Jiménez de Rada in his Historia arabum chooses a version to emphasise that Jesus is whiter than Muhammad, quoting the Ibn Abbas version: "I saw Jesus, a man of medium height and moderate complexion inclined to the red and white colours and of lank hair". Echevarría comments that "Moses and Jesus are portrayed as specimens of a completely different 'ethnic type', fair and blond; 'ethnic' or 'racial' differences between them and Muhammad are thus highlighted."[39]

lol, picking a single passage from a Wikipedia page that says he likely would have been Middle Eastern in the introduction. by the way, why did you omit the part about those passages being from the Koran? it's an important detail for establishing historical credibility

_Krave_ posted...

Aren't there accounts of the J man being taller and fairer than most people around him?

Judas Iscariot had to identify him. I guess he looked like everyone else. Otherwise he would have said "It's the most handsome of that group"
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treewojima posted...

lol, picking a single passage from a Wikipedia page that says he likely would have been Middle Eastern in the introduction. by the way, why did you omit the part about those passages being from the Koran? it's an important detail for establishing historical credibility

Middle Eastern like white man Bashar Assad? I agree.

Ammonitida posted...

treewojima posted...

lol, picking a single passage from a Wikipedia page that says he likely would have been Middle Eastern in the introduction. by the way, why did you omit the part about those passages being from the Koran? it's an important detail for establishing historical credibility

Middle Eastern like white man Bashar Assad? I agree.

so we're in agreement, he was probably Middle Eastern with the lighter complexion found in places like Syria, Israel and Lebanon. black hair, especially in places other than his head, and tans at the drop of a hat. probably had a beard and 'stache too

Why does white Jesus trigger people so much lol

So desperate for him to be any other color than white.
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MachoManSavage posted...

That the original Jesus was a stout brown man with short hair and his beard wasn't conditioned that well.

Yah, that was the concept of Jesus. The Roman critic Celsus mentions it in his criticism of Christianity.

The thing is, a Jewish Christian would agree with Celsus that Jesus was repulsive. That's because 1st century Jews believed Yahweh chooses his prophets to be ugly so that the listeners would focus on God's message and not the prophet. It's also one of the prophecies about the Messiah, since he is supposed to be a prophet-king.

Funny enough, one of the early versions of the St Christopher legend was that he was a handsome man who was constantly being pursued by men and women. He prayed to God to take away his good looks so that he wouldn't be distracted from his asceticism, so God gave him a dog's head.
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