Current Events > One could argue that IT is not really truly evil

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no more than a human that works at a slaughterhouse is evil. It eats fear. there is no way around that. in order to survive it has to torture people. And it sees nothing wrong with that because we are just beasts in comparison. It is so much higher on the food chain than us.

nah, it uses fear to make the meat taste better, but it doesn't need to, IIRC.
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It could be argued, but I could also argue that I'm god of the universe.

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twitterfriends posted...

Yes and Trump is a wholesome, articulate and intelligent man

I gave proof of my claim, you gave no proof of yours

How do explain the time it lived before humans lived, and even the time before Derry existed?

You can't.

it ate other things

What things? Or are you just making up bullshit like usual?

MikeArmstrong posted...

What things? Or are you just making up bullshit like usual?

It was dormant until humans came in the 1700s.

On topic, It is the embodiment of consumption, his ultimate goal is the total consumption of everything until there is nothing left. It's counterpart is the embodiment of Creation. Most people relate creation = good, consumption/destruction = evil.
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It's evil from our perspective because it feeds on our young. I'm sure we're evil from the perspective of our prey.
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Give us a definition of what is evil then.
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From my point of view the Jedi are evil.
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HP Lovecraft viewed Cthulhu as being above morality, but not evil.

Like, an Earthquake kills 1000 people--is the Earthquake evil? No, it's something that's just kind of there. It's horrible and it sucks for there to exist earthquakes, but it's not evil.

I imagine a lot of the same philosophy went into IT.
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Does Cthulhu even have any direct interaction with humans in any way? I was under the impression that any human interactions with Cthulhu are with secondary agents, either Cthulhu spawn or cultists that worship Cthulhu for being so transcendentally scary.

Meanwhile IT directly takes pleasure in tormenting humans before killing them.
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Implying Earthquakes can think
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boxington posted...

nah, it uses fear to make the meat taste better, but it doesn't need to, IIRC.

This is correct. Called it "salting the meat" so yes It is very much evil

qyll3 posted...

Give us a definition of what is evil then.

There's no such thing, really. Just differing ideas of what's right and wrong which sometimes clash.
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ThePrinceFish posted...

Does Cthulhu even have any direct interaction with humans in any way? I was under the impression that any human interactions with Cthulhu are with secondary agents, either Cthulhu spawn or cultists that worship Cthulhu for being so transcendentally scary.

Meanwhile IT directly takes pleasure in tormenting humans before killing them.

Cthulhu was at one point active but IIRC was injured in some kind of war with Shoggoths so he sleeps in the underwater city of R'lyeh and his dreams call out to people to worship him and make them insane.
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ChromaticAngel posted...

ThePrinceFish posted...

Does Cthulhu even have any direct interaction with humans in any way? I was under the impression that any human interactions with Cthulhu are with secondary agents, either Cthulhu spawn or cultists that worship Cthulhu for being so transcendentally scary.

Meanwhile IT directly takes pleasure in tormenting humans before killing them.

Cthulhu was at one point active but IIRC was injured in some kind of war with Shoggoths so he sleeps in the underwater city of R'lyeh and his dreams call out to people to worship him and make them insane.

But does he do that on purpose or does it just happen because he's a transcendent creature on a far higher level than humans?

IT, despite being a higher creature, directly takes pleasure in harming humans. With intent.

Cthulhu would then be more of a force of nature, while IT would be an antagonistic creature.
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ThePrinceFish posted...

But does he do that on purpose or does it just happen because he's a transcendent creature on a far higher level than humans?

IT, despite being a higher creature, directly takes pleasure in harming humans. With intent.

Cthulhu would then be more of a force of nature, while IT would be an antagonistic creature.

Yeah, IT deliberately tortures people for enjoyment, putting him on the evil spectrum.

Cthulhu, if he were active and acting on the world directly would torture people, but that's because that's just what would happen. He can't not torture people. Like, if you get eaten by the Sarlacc, you get slowly digested over 1000 years and are alive for all of it. It would be evil to throw someone into the Sarlacc, but the Sarlacc itself isn't evil.
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