Current Events > Turkey's new school year: Jihad in, evolution out

(+) Yeah! (+)

Turkey is continuing its path away from secularism and towards Islamic doctrine.
These young pupils are going to be disgustingly brainwashed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41296714
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if you connected Ataturks grave to a generator, his spinning could probably power Constantinople at this point
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Have they ever acknowledged the Armenian genocide? >_>
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NeonOctopus posted...

Have they ever acknowledged the Armenian genocide? >_>

I'd imagine that the education dept has a lot of revisionist shit going on.

Eg. This genocide probably never happened or was the fault of the Kurds/Christians/some other bullshit.
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Textbooks explaining the idea of jihad are being rolled out in Turkey's religious vocational schools, known widely as Imam-Hatip high schools.

This is like complaining about a Catholic school.

Yeah that makes America dead last in countries that teach evolution when it comes to accepting evolution. There are many politicians in America including our vice President and our secretary of education that would love for us to stop teaching evolution too.

Be sad for Turkey but realize that we might become their Christian equivalent soon enough.
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i hope everyone on the left is paying attention to what's happening in turkey

Questionmarktarius posted...

Textbooks explaining the idea of jihad are being rolled out in Turkey's religious vocational schools, known widely as Imam-Hatip high schools.

This is like complaining about a Catholic school.

False equivalency
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

i hope everyone on the left is paying attention to what's happening in turkey

We are too busy watching Christians attempt to do the same thing to America.
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Seems pretty similar to the demands of Evangelists in the south.
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"b-but Christians!"

FLUFFYGERM posted...

i hope everyone on the left is paying attention to what's happening in turkey

They are well aware of what the conservative government in Turkey is doing don't worry.

imagine being so spiteful and so delusional that you compare teaching children favorable things about jihad to anything evangelicals teach children

FLUFFYGERM posted...

"b-but Christians!"

FLUFFYGERM posted...

imagine being so spiteful and so delusional that you compare teaching children favorable things about jihad to anything evangelicals teach children

Seems like a nerve has been struck.
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I have that account ignored, but that was a pitiful response that was apparently made.
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evangelicals and jihadists are one in the same
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mario2000 posted...

evangelicals and jihadists are one in the same

When Westboro starts decapitating people, maybe.

Kineth posted...

I have that account ignored, but that was a pitiful response that was apparently made.

DreadedWave posted...

Seems like a nerve has been struck.

Like how quite a few Christians in America want "prayer back in schools," and evolution taken out of the curriculum.

That's not a false equivalency, it's literally the same thing. The difference is that they succeeded in Turkey.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

When Westboro starts decapitating people, maybe.

You realize rule of law is the only thing preventing them from doing so yes?

Questionmarktarius posted...

mario2000 posted...

evangelicals and jihadists are one in the same

When Westboro starts decapitating people, maybe.

they would if they knew they could get away with it
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Broseph_Stalin posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

When Westboro starts decapitating people, maybe.

You realize rule of law is the only thing preventing them from doing so yes?

they wouldn't decapitate people because they believe murder is wrong. it's why they picket soldier funerals.

I'm kind of surprised to hear that this change wasn't the traditional curriculum in Turkey (I thought they were a Muslim country...)

Either way, this topic reminds me that I need to stop by the deli on my way home.
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--kresnik-- posted...

I'm kind of surprised to hear that this change wasn't the traditional curriculum in Turkey (I thought they were a Muslim country...)

Wow who'd of thought southcoast would be wrong about something.

FLUFFYGERM posted...

they wouldn't decapitate people because they believe murder is wrong.

lol

they literally say as much when they picket soldier funerals, Broseph

Questionmarktarius posted...

Textbooks explaining the idea of jihad are being rolled out in Turkey's religious vocational schools, known widely as Imam-Hatip high schools.

This is like complaining about a Catholic school.

then this is bad, but not as bad as I thought. I went to a catholic school and they made us learn about christianity from a catholic perspective. religion class every day, christianity is correct (particularly catholicism), daily prayer was a thing, church was like once a week as if it was a class, and oh I'm an atheist btw
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ThyCorndog posted...

then this is bad, but not as bad as I thought.

It might be slightly more "bad", if I understand the Turkish educational system correctly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Turkey#Vocational_education

Looks like it's where the 'fuckups' end up, similar to how 'murica! did it up until the mid 80s or so, but with "Allah" as part of the curriculum for some reason. May be some sort of parochial/charter system involved.

creativerealms posted...

Be sad for Turkey but realize that we might become their Christian equivalent soon enough.

Unlike Turkey, such things can eventually be reversed in the United States when the opposing party takes power.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

ThyCorndog posted...

then this is bad, but not as bad as I thought.

It might be slightly more "bad", if I understand the Turkish educational system correctly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Turkey#Vocational_education

Looks like it's where the 'fuckups' end up, similar to how 'murica! did it up until the mid 80s or so, but with "Allah" as part of the curriculum for some reason. May be some sort of parochial/charter system involved.

eesh
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M-Watcher posted...

creativerealms posted...

Be sad for Turkey but realize that we might become their Christian equivalent soon enough.

Unlike Turkey, such things can eventually be reversed in the United States when the opposing party takes power.

it can happen in turkey too, but not in the direction they're going. since the end of world war 1, turkey had been turning secular. it was a secular state with a secular (and likely atheist) leader. the military was made up of secularists who would ensure islamists wouldn't take hold in government. it was all going more or less as planned, until erdogan started fucking it up so he could become de facto dictator
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Surely this will only bring good things for turkey.
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ThyCorndog posted...

M-Watcher posted...

creativerealms posted...

Be sad for Turkey but realize that we might become their Christian equivalent soon enough.

Unlike Turkey, such things can eventually be reversed in the United States when the opposing party takes power.

it can happen in turkey too, but not in the direction they're going. since the end of world war 1, turkey had been turning secular. it was a secular state with a secular (and likely atheist) leader. the military was made up of secularists who would ensure islamists wouldn't take hold in government. it was all going more or less as planned, until erdogan started fucking it up so he could become de facto dictator

Yeah that is worse. So sad to see progress undone like that.
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CrimsonRage posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

mario2000 posted...

evangelicals and jihadists are one in the same

When Westboro starts decapitating people, maybe.

I don't know why Christian fundamentalists are so proud of passing such a low bar of "not decapitating people."

Because, WBC is obnoxious, but harmless.

ArmieBuff posted...

That's not right

Absolutely not, yet


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Sounds about right.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

CrimsonRage posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

mario2000 posted...

evangelicals and jihadists are one in the same

When Westboro starts decapitating people, maybe.

I don't know why Christian fundamentalists are so proud of passing such a low bar of "not decapitating people."

Because, WBC is obnoxious, but harmless.

WBC isn't the only example of Christian extremism/terrorism in America. Abortion clinics were getting burned and bombed relatively frequently in the 90s, for example. Yes, a majority of the culprits cited Christianity as part of their rationale.
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CrimsonRage posted...

ROBANN_88 posted...

if you connected Ataturks grave to a generator, his spinning could probably power Constantinople at this point

You mean Istanbul.

Istanbul was Constantinople.
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Can you give some examples of Christian terrorism? You know like in the last 10 years.
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NeonOctopus posted...

Have they ever acknowledged the Armenian genocide? >_>

Many other countries don't accept it either sadly, almost purely to appease Turkey
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CrimsonRage posted...

Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople.

Why did Constantinople get the works?
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CarlGrimes posted...

CrimsonRage posted...

ROBANN_88 posted...

if you connected Ataturks grave to a generator, his spinning could probably power Constantinople at this point

You mean Istanbul.

Istanbul was Constantinople.

1453, worst year of my life
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ROBANN_88 posted...

if you connected Ataturks grave to a generator, his spinning could probably power Constantinople at this point

nice
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