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RickyTheBAWSE
09/16/17 11:41:54 PM
#101:


A_Good_Boy posted...
thronedfire2 posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Ultima Dragon posted...
I think once you start actively shutting down roadways and parts of the city that goes beyond "peaceful protesting."

Peaceful protesting is getting your message out there without violence, property damage or intimidation tactics. You can't expect people to be sympathetic and rally to your cause if that's your MO.


Like I said before even taking a knee this this type of hateful response. but blocking a road isn't that horrible . People are treating blocking the road as capital offense. That is crazy.


people have died because of protesters blocking roads

Proof?


why don't they ever add proof? they just make empty claims, get asked for proof, not provide it, then make the same claim in another thread.

I feel like I'm going to have to save repeated unanswered statements in quotes, and paste it every time they try it again. just to throw it in their face, lol.
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TheSextMachine
09/17/17 12:29:09 AM
#102:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
thronedfire2 posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Ultima Dragon posted...
I think once you start actively shutting down roadways and parts of the city that goes beyond "peaceful protesting."

Peaceful protesting is getting your message out there without violence, property damage or intimidation tactics. You can't expect people to be sympathetic and rally to your cause if that's your MO.


Like I said before even taking a knee this this type of hateful response. but blocking a road isn't that horrible . People are treating blocking the road as capital offense. That is crazy.


people have died because of protesters blocking roads

Proof?


why don't they ever add proof? they just make empty claims, get asked for proof, not provide it, then make the same claim in another thread.

I feel like I'm going to have to save repeated unanswered statements in quotes, and paste it every time they try it again. just to throw it in their face, lol.

Even if there is no proof it has happened yet it is only a matter of time. Blocking traffic makes it harder for emergency services to do their job and that is fact.
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A_Good_Boy
09/17/17 12:39:07 AM
#103:


TheSextMachine posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
thronedfire2 posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Ultima Dragon posted...
I think once you start actively shutting down roadways and parts of the city that goes beyond "peaceful protesting."

Peaceful protesting is getting your message out there without violence, property damage or intimidation tactics. You can't expect people to be sympathetic and rally to your cause if that's your MO.


Like I said before even taking a knee this this type of hateful response. but blocking a road isn't that horrible . People are treating blocking the road as capital offense. That is crazy.


people have died because of protesters blocking roads

Proof?


why don't they ever add proof? they just make empty claims, get asked for proof, not provide it, then make the same claim in another thread.

I feel like I'm going to have to save repeated unanswered statements in quotes, and paste it every time they try it again. just to throw it in their face, lol.

Even if there is no proof it has happened yet it is only a matter of time. Blocking traffic makes it harder for emergency services to do their job and that is fact.

So now you're just blaming them for poor outcomes that you're wishing could happen just so you could blame BLM for it.
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/17/17 12:55:47 AM
#104:


apparently, lol.

"somebody die so I can be right!"

Jesus...
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Zikten
09/17/17 1:01:20 AM
#105:


we don't want someone to die. we are scared it will happen. I don't want to see on the news that a dying person died in a stuck ambulance. but I worry it can happen. being scared of something and warning people that it might happen doesn't mean you want it to happen. it's our way of getting BLM and Antifa to stop blocking traffic. by telling them what can happen.

but those groups probably won't listen. they probably wouldn't even care if someone died, and would treat it as a causality of war
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cjsdowg
09/17/17 1:06:51 AM
#106:


Zikten posted...
we don't want someone to die. we are scared it will happen. I don't want to see on the news that a dying person died in a stuck ambulance. but I worry it can happen. being scared of something and warning people that it might happen doesn't mean you want it to happen. it's our way of getting BLM and Antifa to stop blocking traffic. by telling them what can happen.

but those groups probably won't listen. they probably wouldn't even care if someone died, and would treat it as a causality of war


The protesters are protester people who HAVE died.. and those complaining down care. So you are complaining because BLM don't care about non existing people. While you guys either support or don't care about real people killed.
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ThanksUglyGod
09/17/17 1:08:08 AM
#107:


Friendly reminder that there's never been proof of BLM or anti-Trump protesters blocking an emergency vehicle.
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CarlGrimes
09/17/17 1:11:15 AM
#108:


cjsdowg posted...
The protesters are protester people who HAVE died..

Because they attacked cops and put people in danger.
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Zikten
09/17/17 1:13:44 AM
#109:


ThanksUglyGod posted...
Friendly reminder that there's never been proof of BLM or anti-Trump protesters blocking an emergency vehicle.


I literally showed proof earlier in this topic

Zikten posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IfyI69IQSg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvCdAuBBh0U


2 cases of ambulances being blocked by BLM
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cjsdowg
09/17/17 1:14:24 AM
#110:


CarlGrimes posted...

Because they attacked cops and put people in danger.


Like John Crawford , or philando castile??
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CarlGrimes
09/17/17 1:21:25 AM
#111:


cjsdowg posted...
CarlGrimes posted...

Because they attacked cops and put people in danger.


Like John Crawford , or philando castile??

No, like Michael Brown, and this most recent one.
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StickFigures720
09/17/17 1:22:30 AM
#112:


rexcrk posted...
Gimme a break.

You stand in the middle of the road like an idiot and then play the Victim Card when you get hurt by willingly doing something stupid.

I'm not trying to be an asshole here, but, c'mon.

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ThanksUglyGod
09/17/17 1:32:06 AM
#114:


Zikten posted...
ThanksUglyGod posted...
Friendly reminder that there's never been proof of BLM or anti-Trump protesters blocking an emergency vehicle.


I literally showed proof earlier in this topic

Zikten posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IfyI69IQSg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvCdAuBBh0U


2 cases of ambulances being blocked by BLM

You're right. I rushed into typing my original message that I wasn't thinking clearly. I should've said there's never been any proof of someone dying as a result of protesters blocking an ambulance.
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Howl
09/17/17 1:47:45 AM
#115:


ThanksUglyGod posted...
Zikten posted...
ThanksUglyGod posted...
Friendly reminder that there's never been proof of BLM or anti-Trump protesters blocking an emergency vehicle.


I literally showed proof earlier in this topic

Zikten posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IfyI69IQSg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvCdAuBBh0U


2 cases of ambulances being blocked by BLM

You're right. I rushed into typing my original message that I wasn't thinking clearly. I should've said there's never been any proof of someone dying as a result of protesters blocking an ambulance.


Way to move that goalpost buddy!
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lderivedx
09/17/17 1:50:10 AM
#116:


It's really fucking weird how protesters are always held to a higher standard than whatever they're protesting.
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ThanksUglyGod
09/17/17 1:53:15 AM
#117:


Howl posted...
ThanksUglyGod posted...
Zikten posted...
ThanksUglyGod posted...
Friendly reminder that there's never been proof of BLM or anti-Trump protesters blocking an emergency vehicle.


I literally showed proof earlier in this topic

Zikten posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IfyI69IQSg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvCdAuBBh0U


2 cases of ambulances being blocked by BLM

You're right. I rushed into typing my original message that I wasn't thinking clearly. I should've said there's never been any proof of someone dying as a result of protesters blocking an ambulance.


Way to move that goalpost buddy!

XD oh I KNOW you're not talking
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darkjedilink
09/17/17 2:01:19 AM
#118:


cjsdowg posted...
Zikten posted...
we don't want someone to die. we are scared it will happen. I don't want to see on the news that a dying person died in a stuck ambulance. but I worry it can happen. being scared of something and warning people that it might happen doesn't mean you want it to happen. it's our way of getting BLM and Antifa to stop blocking traffic. by telling them what can happen.

but those groups probably won't listen. they probably wouldn't even care if someone died, and would treat it as a causality of war

The protesters are protester people who HAVE died.. and those complaining down care. So you are complaining because BLM don't care about non existing people. While you guys either support or don't care about real people killed.

The vast majority of the people who died to spark protest died specifically as a result of their own stupidity and criminal behavior.
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Howl
09/17/17 2:56:24 AM
#119:


ThanksUglyGod posted...
XD oh I KNOW you're not talking


You say that as if I somehow moved the goalpost.
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prettyprincess
09/17/17 9:29:08 AM
#120:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
MLK never blocked traffic?

why waste conversation and simply ask a question you know the answer to instead of delving into the argument that you think it serves a purpose and specifically benefited that purpose? I guess I can have it by myself

there's an argument to be made that civil disruption brings attention to a protest and forces the inactive moderate citizen into responding, but this was effectively accomplished in the past through related scenarios (ie. peaceful sit ins encroaching on 'white only' spaces)
the idea here is again to civilly disrupt, but the action doesn't target its purpose, highways haven't gotten off after killing black civilians, and the disruption thus displaces attention onto its own existence and benefits rather than the root issue supposedly being protested
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QwelzaarKane
09/17/17 9:33:28 AM
#121:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
got examples of these recent protesters being hit unintentionally?


No. I never said that has happened, though.

there's a difference between somebody jumping out on you at 60 mph, and being at 60mph and choosing not to slow down when.


Obviously. I don't think you understand how easily shit can catch you off guard on the highway. City highways tend to have a lot of sharper turns and walls. And then there's road conditions, how good your brakes are, potential distractions, etc.

I'm just speaking from experience. I've had to go from 60 to 0 real quick a few times and if the road had been a bit wet or I checked my mirrors a second later, shit would have been bad. That was in my three year old car. Imagine if I was in a semi or some hoopty with shitty brakes.
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fred12935
09/17/17 12:01:04 PM
#122:


Id happily run over them less people on wellfare. This is whaalt happens when peasants start to think they matter. Need ed 209s from Robocop shoot everybody rioting
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CookieMarvin
09/17/17 12:22:26 PM
#124:


MrPeppers posted...
This feels like a straw man argument...


seemed like it coulda been for like, four posts before everyone came in and started exposing themselves as being human garbage.

so you don't have to worry about that anymore!
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SweetieBelle462
09/17/17 12:24:58 PM
#125:


rexcrk posted...
Gimme a break.

You stand in the middle of the road like an idiot and then play the Victim Card when you get hurt by willingly doing something stupid.

I'm not trying to be an asshole here, but, c'mon.
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CookieMarvin
09/17/17 12:58:48 PM
#126:


case in point!
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/17/17 4:29:29 PM
#127:


QwelzaarKane posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
got examples of these recent protesters being hit unintentionally?


No. I never said that has happened, though.

there's a difference between somebody jumping out on you at 60 mph, and being at 60mph and choosing not to slow down when.


Obviously. I don't think you understand how easily shit can catch you off guard on the highway. City highways tend to have a drink lot of sharper turns and walls. And then there's road conditions, how good your brakes are, potential distractions, etc.

I'm just speaking from experience. I've had to go from 60 to 0 real quick a few times and if the road had been a bit wet or I checked my mirrors a second later, shit would have been bad. That was in my three year old car. Imagine if I was in a semi or some hoopty with shitty brakes.


you're just saying a lot of shit, now. I've been driving for 12 years, so the idea of you even making the presumption that I don't know how something can catch a person off guard is not only ridiculous, but proof that you don't need to know something in order for you to declare it/think it. based on nothing, at that. nothing but your hopes.

I've driven a semi, and a semi would see stopped traffic before any road vehicle.

when you're ready to talk about what HAS happened in reality over ideas of what COULD happen in your imagination, quote me.
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CookieMarvin
09/17/17 5:26:20 PM
#128:


why are people actively lookin for reasons to excuse intentionally hitting people with cars


like, how shitty can you possibly be
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C_Pain
09/17/17 5:27:12 PM
#129:


murder being bad is a subjective opinion
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/17/17 5:39:55 PM
#130:


C_Pain posted...
murder being bad is a subjective opinion

a few days ago, somebody told me the same thing about slavery, lol.
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C_Pain
09/17/17 5:42:20 PM
#131:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
C_Pain posted...
murder being bad is a subjective opinion

a few days ago, somebody told me the same thing about slavery, lol.

well morality is subjective
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/17/17 5:53:55 PM
#132:


C_Pain posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
C_Pain posted...
murder being bad is a subjective opinion

a few days ago, somebody told me the same thing about slavery, lol.

well morality is subjective


true. but there are times to NOT make that statement, lol.
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pikachupwnage
09/17/17 6:00:56 PM
#133:


jayj420 posted...
Zikten posted...
no, if you block traffic, I blame you for any ambulances being slowed down. you set up the blockage.

"no, if you setup a music festival, I blame you for any people who overdose while attending it. You set up the festival."

See how that works?


That is very different and you know it.
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/17/17 6:03:19 PM
#134:


pikachupwnage posted...
jayj420 posted...
Zikten posted...
no, if you block traffic, I blame you for any ambulances being slowed down. you set up the blockage.

"no, if you setup a music festival, I blame you for any people who overdose while attending it. You set up the festival."

See how that works?


That is very different and you know it.


individual accountability is always the same. you and only you are responsible for your actions/inaction and statements/silence.

the venue changing doesn't change that point.
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CarlGrimes
09/17/17 7:41:11 PM
#135:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
individual accountability is always the same. you and only you are responsible for your actions/inaction and statements/silence.

the venue changing doesn't change that point.

Yeah, in the end the person that died is dead because they chose to die, not because emergency services had to sit in traffic or use a 20 minute detour.
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/17/17 7:42:09 PM
#136:


CarlGrimes posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
individual accountability is always the same. you and only you are responsible for your actions/inaction and statements/silence.

the venue changing doesn't change that point.

Yeah, in the end the person that died is dead because they chose to die, not because emergency services had to sit in traffic or use a 20 minute detour.


when did this happen?
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/17/17 7:43:42 PM
#137:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
CarlGrimes posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Proof? Cause everything I've seen about this claim confirms it as false.

You will only see what you want to see so what is the point?


to not make unsubstantiated claims just because it feels right to you.

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Tezlok
09/17/17 7:44:37 PM
#138:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
CarlGrimes posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
individual accountability is always the same. you and only you are responsible for your actions/inaction and statements/silence.

the venue changing doesn't change that point.

Yeah, in the end the person that died is dead because they chose to die, not because emergency services had to sit in traffic or use a 20 minute detour.


when did this happen?

it doesn't matter if it hasn't happened yet. if you can't see how it might happen someday, and that blocking ambulances is risky and wrong, than you have something wrong with you. its called a preventive measure. normal people don't want to see someone die in a stuck ambulance, so we don't block traffic
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/17/17 7:54:24 PM
#139:


Tezlok posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
CarlGrimes posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
individual accountability is always the same. you and only you are responsible for your actions/inaction and statements/silence.

the venue changing doesn't change that point.

Yeah, in the end the person that died is dead because they chose to die, not because emergency services had to sit in traffic or use a 20 minute detour.


when did this happen?

it doesn't matter if it hasn't happened yet. if you can't see how it might happen someday, and that blocking ambulances is risky and wrong, than you have something wrong with you. its called a preventive measure. normal people don't want to see someone die in a stuck ambulance, so we don't block traffic


"b-but it could happen someday!"

just stop. you've got nothing. if people didn't have enough sense to yield to emergency vehicles in this very occurrence, something like you're describing could happen.

however, that's not the case. stop with the hypotheticals.

hypothetically, if people like you went just as hard as the system that enables the problems protesters are protesting about, there wouldn't be any protests like this. so miss me with the hypothetical fantasy nonsense.

reality only.
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bevan306
09/17/17 7:56:58 PM
#140:


but don't dare threaten to punch a nazi, or say they deserve it...
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Tezlok
09/17/17 8:06:09 PM
#141:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
Tezlok posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
CarlGrimes posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
individual accountability is always the same. you and only you are responsible for your actions/inaction and statements/silence.

the venue changing doesn't change that point.

Yeah, in the end the person that died is dead because they chose to die, not because emergency services had to sit in traffic or use a 20 minute detour.


when did this happen?

it doesn't matter if it hasn't happened yet. if you can't see how it might happen someday, and that blocking ambulances is risky and wrong, than you have something wrong with you. its called a preventive measure. normal people don't want to see someone die in a stuck ambulance, so we don't block traffic


"b-but it could happen someday!"

just stop. you've got nothing. if people didn't have enough sense to yield to emergency vehicles in this very occurrence, something like you're describing could happen.

however, that's not the case. stop with the hypotheticals.

hypothetically, if people like you went just as hard as the system that enables the problems protesters are protesting about, there wouldn't be any protests like this. so miss me with the hypothetical fantasy nonsense.

reality only.

no. shut up. your trying to explain how it's ok to put things at risk. fuck that. it is dangerous to block traffic. someday it will happen. you can whine and complain about it all you want but it will happen if they keep protesting in the streets. fuck anyone who does it. If I was driving an ambulance and I had a dying person in my car and I saw protestors I would just plow through to save my patient's life, and hope that afterwards my boss sees reason and doesn't fire me or try to call the cops. I care more about innocent life than I do the safety of idiots playing in the street
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/17/17 8:11:43 PM
#142:


Tezlok posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
Tezlok posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
CarlGrimes posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
individual accountability is always the same. you and only you are responsible for your actions/inaction and statements/silence.

the venue changing doesn't change that point.

Yeah, in the end the person that died is dead because they chose to die, not because emergency services had to sit in traffic or use a 20 minute detour.


when did this happen?

it doesn't matter if it hasn't happened yet. if you can't see how it might happen someday, and that blocking ambulances is risky and wrong, than you have something wrong with you. its called a preventive measure. normal people don't want to see someone die in a stuck ambulance, so we don't block traffic


"b-but it could happen someday!"

just stop. you've got nothing. if people didn't have enough sense to yield to emergency vehicles in this very occurrence, something like you're describing could happen.

however, that's not the case. stop with the hypotheticals.

hypothetically, if people like you went just as hard as the system that enables the problems protesters are protesting about, there wouldn't be any protests like this. so miss me with the hypothetical fantasy nonsense.

reality only.

no. shut up. your trying to explain how it's ok to put things at risk. fuck that. it is dangerous to block traffic. someday it will happen. you can whine and complain about it all you want but it will happen if they keep protesting in the streets. fuck anyone who does it. If I was driving an ambulance and I had a dying person in my car and I saw protestors I would just plow through to save my patient's life, and hope that afterwards my boss sees reason and doesn't fire me or try to call the cops. I care more about innocent life than I do the safety of idiots playing in the street


"shut up so I can further justify my homicidal desires by using a hypothetical scenario about a job I wouldn't even pass a psyche evaluation for!"
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CarlGrimes
09/17/17 8:13:00 PM
#143:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
just stop. you've got nothing. if people didn't have enough sense to yield to emergency vehicles in this very occurrence, something like you're describing could happen.

How do you yield when traffic is at a standstill in bumper to bumper conditions? Where are all these cars supposed to move to to make way for the emergency vehicles?
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Offworlder1
09/17/17 8:15:22 PM
#144:


If there were protesters screwing around in the streets blocking the road I would give them a few curtesy horn honks and then just keep driving. They would hopefully have the sense to move out of the way of an oncoming car.
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StickFigures720
09/17/17 8:15:30 PM
#145:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
Tezlok posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
Tezlok posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
CarlGrimes posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
individual accountability is always the same. you and only you are responsible for your actions/inaction and statements/silence.

the venue changing doesn't change that point.

Yeah, in the end the person that died is dead because they chose to die, not because emergency services had to sit in traffic or use a 20 minute detour.


when did this happen?

it doesn't matter if it hasn't happened yet. if you can't see how it might happen someday, and that blocking ambulances is risky and wrong, than you have something wrong with you. its called a preventive measure. normal people don't want to see someone die in a stuck ambulance, so we don't block traffic


"b-but it could happen someday!"

just stop. you've got nothing. if people didn't have enough sense to yield to emergency vehicles in this very occurrence, something like you're describing could happen.

however, that's not the case. stop with the hypotheticals.

hypothetically, if people like you went just as hard as the system that enables the problems protesters are protesting about, there wouldn't be any protests like this. so miss me with the hypothetical fantasy nonsense.

reality only.

no. shut up. your trying to explain how it's ok to put things at risk. fuck that. it is dangerous to block traffic. someday it will happen. you can whine and complain about it all you want but it will happen if they keep protesting in the streets. fuck anyone who does it. If I was driving an ambulance and I had a dying person in my car and I saw protestors I would just plow through to save my patient's life, and hope that afterwards my boss sees reason and doesn't fire me or try to call the cops. I care more about innocent life than I do the safety of idiots playing in the street


"shut up so I can further justify my homicidal desires by using a hypothetical scenario about a job I wouldn't even pass a psyche evaluation for!"

If you stand in the road, your own safety is all on you.
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darkjedilink
09/17/17 8:21:02 PM
#146:


Offworlder1 posted...
If there were protesters screwing around in the streets blocking the road I would give them a few curtesy horn honks and then just keep driving. They would hopefully have the sense to move out of the way of an oncoming car.

Mizzou showed us they WANT you to hit them so they can call you racist and sue you.
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A_Good_Boy
09/17/17 8:22:01 PM
#147:


StickFigures720 posted...
If you stand in the road, your own safety is all on you.

Try that argument in front of a judge.
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Glass_Phantom
09/17/17 8:22:43 PM
#148:


darkjedilink posted...
Offworlder1 posted...
If there were protesters screwing around in the streets blocking the road I would give them a few curtesy horn honks and then just keep driving. They would hopefully have the sense to move out of the way of an oncoming car.

Mizzou showed us they WANT you to hit them so they can call you racist and sue you.

This is beneath you.
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CookieMarvin
09/17/17 8:23:49 PM
#149:


Tezlok posted...
no. shut up. your trying to explain how it's ok to put things at risk. fuck that. it is dangerous to block traffic. someday it will happen. you can whine and complain about it all you want but it will happen if they keep protesting in the streets. fuck anyone who does it. If I was driving an ambulance and I had a dying person in my car and I saw protestors I would just plow through to save my patient's life, and hope that afterwards my boss sees reason and doesn't fire me or try to call the cops. I care more about innocent life than I do the safety of idiots playing in the street


this is psychopathic
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StickFigures720
09/17/17 8:27:58 PM
#150:


A_Good_Boy posted...
StickFigures720 posted...
If you stand in the road, your own safety is all on you.

Try that argument in front of a judge.

Right, I stand corrected: if you stand in the road, especially a highway/freeway, you are responsible for any accidents caused by you.
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A_Good_Boy
09/17/17 8:28:47 PM
#151:


Glass_Phantom posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Offworlder1 posted...
If there were protesters screwing around in the streets blocking the road I would give them a few curtesy horn honks and then just keep driving. They would hopefully have the sense to move out of the way of an oncoming car.

Mizzou showed us they WANT you to hit them so they can call you racist and sue you.

This is beneath you.

He blames liberals for why his wife divorced him. Nothing is beneath him.
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/17/17 8:32:14 PM
#152:


CarlGrimes posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
just stop. you've got nothing. if people didn't have enough sense to yield to emergency vehicles in this very occurrence, something like you're describing could happen.

How do you yield when traffic is at a standstill in bumper to bumper conditions? Where are all these cars supposed to move to to make way for the emergency vehicles?


stop trying to gloss over the fact that you're entire argument is a hypothetical vs reality.

I will continue to treat this argument as such until proof if given.
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