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foolm0r0n
09/17/17 2:03:08 AM
#51:


http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2004/07/bulb_bubble_trouble.single.html

Related to accusations of bitcoin being tulip mania

It's all just basic incentives all the way down... there's no magic in economics
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SmartMuffin
09/17/17 10:36:04 PM
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foolm0r0n
09/17/17 10:42:29 PM
#53:


He was asking for it. You don't walk around a protest wearing that without expecting something to happen. I bet he even enjoyed it. Got the testosterone flowing.
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foolm0r0n
09/18/17 1:51:56 AM
#54:


https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/70qjlv/i_was_just_doing_my_job_soviet_officer_who/

Same reaction every time people see stories like this. It's always about how insanely close we got to total destruction, and how magically lucky we were to avoid these close calls not once, twice, but over a dozen times.

If a quarter lands on its edge a dozen times in a row, that's not luck. There's magnets or something forcing it up. It's actually extremely normal and expected. It's only your ignorance that causes the perception of insane luck.
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SmartMuffin
09/18/17 9:47:04 AM
#55:


foolm0r0n posted...
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/70qjlv/i_was_just_doing_my_job_soviet_officer_who/

Same reaction every time people see stories like this. It's always about how insanely close we got to total destruction, and how magically lucky we were to avoid these close calls not once, twice, but over a dozen times.

If a quarter lands on its edge a dozen times in a row, that's not luck. There's magnets or something forcing it up. It's actually extremely normal and expected. It's only your ignorance that causes the perception of insane luck.


Basically agree. Talked about this on SSC recently. Everyone theorizes all these dramatic "end of the world" or "world war 3" scenarios (i.e. if we implement a no-fly zone over Syria and someone shoots down a Russian plane they will immediately declare war on the US and start launching nukes). And these theories definitely make sense from the autistic game theory perspective, i.e. aggregated to thinking like a government. But they fall apart once you realize that you're dealing with actual people who need to launch actual weapons and aren't going to do it based on realpolitik game theory. They're only going to do that if they're absolutely fucking sure it's necessary to ensure their own survival.
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SmartMuffin
09/18/17 12:29:01 PM
#56:


http://reason.com/blog/2017/09/18/trump-let-a-kid-mow-the-white-house-lawn

more headlines need to include the phrase "idiot asks"
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SmartMuffin
09/18/17 5:30:08 PM
#57:


http://www.npr.org/2017/09/18/551217204/hillary-clinton-says-shes-optimistic-about-our-country-but-i-am-not-naive

Have I told you she's going to run again in 2020? Because she's going to run again in 2020.
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SmartMuffin
09/18/17 6:03:19 PM
#58:


so did foolmo just give up on coming to houston or what
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foolm0r0n
09/18/17 6:06:23 PM
#59:


No I'm waiting for bahfest to be rescheduled
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foolm0r0n
09/18/17 6:21:13 PM
#60:


SmartMuffin posted...
They're only going to do that if they're absolutely fucking sure it's necessary to ensure their own survival.

It's stronger than that because there are people who were sure they were in a life/death situation and still chose not to fire. It's like a primal biological switch that is even stronger than preserving the self, that is for preserving humanity. Free will simply breaks down at the level of human extinction. No indoctrination or even insanity can overcome it.

Unfortunately it seems like modern governments have learned that lesson and now conduct all destruction through sufficiently numbing proxies.
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SmartMuffin
09/18/17 6:22:45 PM
#61:


yeah

its a good thing governments are fucking terrible at understanding basic human incentives or we'd be totally screwed
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foolm0r0n
09/18/17 6:24:52 PM
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This is why I'm seriously afraid of the increasing involvement of game design in government-related fields (although most game designers are fucking terrible too)
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SmartMuffin
09/18/17 6:30:14 PM
#63:


get the ffxv people to work for the fed or something and we'll be set
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foolm0r0n
09/18/17 7:39:27 PM
#65:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Don't take it personally

Well you should since it's personal
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Panthera
09/18/17 7:47:02 PM
#67:


foolm0r0n posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Don't take it personally

Well you should since it's personal


Yeah but it's not the kind of personal criticism you should take personally
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foolm0r0n
09/18/17 9:10:41 PM
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Panthera posted...
Yeah but it's not the kind of personal criticism you should take personally

Do you mean it's like a "it's not you, it's her"situation?

Maybe. I know when I am not attracted to conventionally attractive girls it's often purely my fault, but it's still a valid and useful data point to ask why exactly there isn't attraction. Especially if you're actively trying improve yourself and attract more people. Why would you ignore data in that case, even if it's weak?
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SmartMuffin
09/18/17 9:43:03 PM
#69:


is ulti trying to give me dating advice?

thats probably the single most depressing thing to ever happen to me in my life
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Panthera
09/18/17 9:45:52 PM
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foolm0r0n posted...
Panthera posted...
Yeah but it's not the kind of personal criticism you should take personally

Do you mean it's like a "it's not you, it's her"situation?

Maybe. I know when I am not attracted to conventionally attractive girls it's often purely my fault, but it's still a valid and useful data point to ask why exactly there isn't attraction. Especially if you're actively trying improve yourself and attract more people. Why would you ignore data in that case, even if it's weak?


I mean it's more a thing that happens - "no romantic connection" is basically "I don't want to see you again but you're not Satan or anything", not something to really take to heart. Obviously if you get that all the time you should be wondering why but taken on its own it isn't really something to have too much personal concern over.
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SmartMuffin
09/18/17 9:49:27 PM
#71:


I mean it's more a thing that happens - "no romantic connection" is basically "I don't want to see you again but you're not Satan or anything"

I'm sick and fucking tired of hearing this. Almost every girl I've ever met gives me the old, "you'd be really great... for someone else."

Just for once I'd like them to say that I AM satan. That they can't stand me, don't find me attractive, aren't impressed by my money, and wouldn't wish me on their worst enemy.
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Panthera
09/18/17 9:55:22 PM
#72:


I'm sure you could get them to hate you if you really tried
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CeraSeptem
09/18/17 9:58:06 PM
#73:


SmartMuffin posted...
I mean it's more a thing that happens - "no romantic connection" is basically "I don't want to see you again but you're not Satan or anything"

I'm sick and fucking tired of hearing this. Almost every girl I've ever met gives me the old, "you'd be really great... for someone else."

Just for once I'd like them to say that I AM satan. That they can't stand me, don't find me attractive, aren't impressed by my money, and wouldn't wish me on their worst enemy.

This explains so much about you.
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foolm0r0n
09/18/17 10:49:11 PM
#74:


Panthera posted...
I mean it's more a thing that happens

Ok but there's a reason for it. It might be a minor reason or a very specific useless reason, but there's still a reason.

It's not crazy to want to hear that reason and have the option of using it to improve yourself.
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foolm0r0n
09/18/17 10:50:03 PM
#75:


Also yeah you need to find some BDSM swinger couples or something
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foolm0r0n
09/19/17 12:42:49 PM
#76:


https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/711mtp/a_literacy_test_given_to_black_voters_in_the_1960s/

Comments talk like it would be reasonable if the test was more fair
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Panthera
09/19/17 3:02:33 PM
#77:


foolm0r0n posted...
Panthera posted...
I mean it's more a thing that happens

Ok but there's a reason for it. It might be a minor reason or a very specific useless reason, but there's still a reason.

It's not crazy to want to hear that reason and have the option of using it to improve yourself.


Oh it's not crazy to want that but if a girl says that to you she's clearly not going to tell you the specific reason (she probably doesn't care enough to think about what it is anyway) so there's no point in taking the specific rejection as anything other than a sign that whatever flaws you know you have are probably still there
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foolm0r0n
09/19/17 3:25:35 PM
#78:


No she's just being polite/shy and also protecting herself from a possible murder/stalker. If you ask her reasonably then she will tell you.

Even I don't go into detail why I don't like a girl out of politeness/shyness, and I have no murdering to fear.

Similarly, even if a girl DOES end up liking you, that doesn't mean that all your flaws are gone. It's good to know what exactly she likes about you, so you can still continue to improve yourself.
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HotDogButts
09/19/17 5:58:57 PM
#79:


so long as you base your flaws and strengths off the opinions of one potential mate it's a great method
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SmartMuffin
09/19/17 7:07:43 PM
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SmartMuffin
09/19/17 9:38:15 PM
#81:


http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2017/09/13/550793717/episode-647-hard-work-is-irrelevant

The right-thinking progressives at planet money are shocked (shocked!) to discover that the labor theory of value is a bunch of crap and that good companies ignore it.
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foolm0r0n
09/19/17 9:42:06 PM
#82:


They're also assuming the money a company pays you is related to how much value you generate which is mega lol
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SmartMuffin
09/19/17 11:16:54 PM
#83:


https://www.nhl.com/news/crosby-lemieux-linemates-for-oregon-football/c-291156510?tid=281396148

There won't be an NHL topic for a bit, but just in case ExTha checks in here... ABSOLUTE PROOF SATAN IS INVOLVED
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SmartMuffin
09/20/17 2:40:36 PM
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SmartMuffin
09/20/17 4:32:11 PM
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yaaaaas pit them against each other

http://reason.com/blog/2017/09/20/unions-battle-environmentalists-for-thei
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SmartMuffin
09/20/17 4:33:32 PM
#86:


http://reason.com/blog/2017/09/19/study-44-of-students-incorrectly-think-t

man did I call this or what?

official predix: This will break 60% by 2020

Men were more likely than women to say hate speech was protected (51 percent vs. 31 percent.) And while conservative students are often thought to be more in favor of free speech than their liberal counterparts%u2014at least in the present campus censorship wars%u2014the study suggests this reputation is undeserved. Just 44 percent of self-identified Republicans said that hate speech was protected by the First Amendment, compared with 39 percent of Democrats and 40 percent of independents.

A striking majority of surveyed students%u201451 percent%u2014thought "shouting so that the audience cannot hear" was a valid tactic for opposing a controversial speaker. Violence was acceptable to 19 percent of respondents.

"Across most categories, and in the aggregate, the majority of students appear to prefer an environment in which their institution is expected to create an environment that shelters them from offensive views," wrote Villasenor. "The exceptions are among Republicans and Independents, though even in those categories nearly half of the students still expressed a preference for the more sheltered environment."

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Kenri
09/20/17 4:38:24 PM
#87:


SmartMuffin posted...
A striking majority of surveyed students%u201451 percent%u2014thought "shouting so that the audience cannot hear" was a valid tactic for opposing a controversial speaker.

not sure why they're acting like it's not in an article about free speech?

Edit: I guess the issue is that they're talking about legality up until that point when they suddenly switch to whether it's "valid" or not, whatever that means.
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SmartMuffin
09/20/17 4:53:28 PM
#88:


I mean it's not legal to disrupt a private gathering, although the actual crime you're committing at that point is probably closer to trespassing than anything else.
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foolm0r0n
09/20/17 5:52:37 PM
#89:


Hate speech is a completely ambiguous term so that explains most of it. Could easily refer to threatening/hostile speech. I wonder if they asked about "offensive speech" instead.
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SmartMuffin
09/21/17 11:26:02 PM
#90:


https://twitter.com/EmptySeatsPics/status/911024861920800769

nfl attendance doin great
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TheRock1525
09/22/17 12:04:17 AM
#91:


Well the 49ers are incredibly awful (and the Rams aren't good, either) and California generally offers alternatives that you don't need to go and watch terrible football.
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Maniac64
09/22/17 12:20:01 AM
#92:


SmartMuffin posted...
https://www.nhl.com/news/crosby-lemieux-linemates-for-oregon-football/c-291156510?tid=281396148

There won't be an NHL topic for a bit, but just in case ExTha checks in here... ABSOLUTE PROOF SATAN IS INVOLVED


I might have to start cheering for Oregon.
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SmartMuffin
09/22/17 10:24:41 AM
#93:


TheRock1525 posted...
Well the 49ers are incredibly awful (and the Rams aren't good, either) and California generally offers alternatives that you don't need to go and watch terrible football.


Yeah but neither of them are THAT awful. They aren't like, Cleveland or Jacksonville. And this is literally a division rivalry game! And intra-state rivalry now!
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SmartMuffin
09/24/17 12:10:50 AM
#94:


up
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TheRock1525
09/24/17 12:15:17 AM
#95:


What do you think of all the NFL owners that are speaking out against Trump's comments at the Alabama rally?
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SmartMuffin
09/24/17 12:18:36 AM
#96:


they think that speaking out against trump can save the sinking ship

(spoilers, it can't. democrats are going to be the ones who ban football because of CTE anyway)
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TheRock1525
09/24/17 12:23:31 AM
#97:


So what do you think is going to replace football as the major North American sport? Because ratings were kinda sagging before Kaep kneeling.
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TheRock1525
09/24/17 12:26:48 AM
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I mean, NASCAR is setting record low ratings so it ain't gonna be that for white people who are afraid of black people speaking out.
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TheRock1525
09/24/17 12:28:09 AM
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Golf ratings are pretty low, too.
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SmartMuffin
09/24/17 12:45:35 AM
#100:


TheRock1525 posted...
So what do you think is going to replace football as the major North American sport? Because ratings were kinda sagging before Kaep kneeling.


Nothing. There's no ironclad law that we have to have a "major" sport.
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