Current Events > would you be opposed to the US using burning bulls for child sex traffickers?

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Trigg3rH4ppy
09/12/17 10:21:11 AM
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**Brazen Bull
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COVxy
09/12/17 10:31:25 AM
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09/12/17 10:36:06 AM
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itachi15243
09/12/17 10:36:56 AM
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09/12/17 10:37:07 AM
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Vaati_Reborn
09/12/17 10:37:36 AM
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I had no idea what this was so I looked it up. It's fucked up but this part is kinda cool

The bull was in the form and size of an actual bull and had an acoustic apparatus that converted screams into the sound of a bull.


people sure do love their creative torture methods
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Trigg3rH4ppy
09/12/17 10:42:19 AM
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Will someone please think of the poor people that steal, rape, and kill innocent children :(. They shouldn't be made to feel helpless before dying like they do to little kids :'(
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Tmaster148
09/12/17 10:42:55 AM
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I'm against cruel and unusual punishment.
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Trigg3rH4ppy
09/12/17 10:44:32 AM
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Tmaster148 posted...
I'm against cruel and unusual punishment.

We're talking about child sex traffickers, not people. They're subhuman.
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Tmaster148
09/12/17 10:45:40 AM
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
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I'm against cruel and unusual punishment.

We're talking about child sex traffickers, not people. They're subhuman.


They are still people regardless of what crime they have done.
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MikeArmstrong
09/12/17 10:45:45 AM
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I'm against cruel and unusual punishment.
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Dustin1280
09/12/17 10:46:02 AM
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honestly, I would probably be okay with this since we are talking about child sex traffickers...
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Trigg3rH4ppy
09/12/17 10:48:33 AM
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Tmaster148 posted...
Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
I'm against cruel and unusual punishment.

We're talking about child sex traffickers, not people. They're subhuman.


They are still people regardless of what crime they have done.

I disagree. But I also just watched a documentary about them and it's got me wishing we brutally tortured them.
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Tmaster148
09/12/17 10:49:06 AM
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
I'm against cruel and unusual punishment.

We're talking about child sex traffickers, not people. They're subhuman.


They are still people regardless of what crime they have done.

I disagree. But I also just watched a documentary about them and it's got me wishing we brutally tortured them.


You have a problem.
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Trigg3rH4ppy
09/12/17 10:49:35 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
itachi15243 posted...
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Will someone please think of the poor people that steal, rape, and kill innocent children :(. They shouldn't be made to feel helpless before dying like they do to little kids :'(


Those victims can have justice without such savage punishments of the sex traffickers. It makes us no better than such a criminal if we sink to such levels.

Yeah but that savage punishment might do well to deter others from getting in the business if they knew the punishment was a painful execution.
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itachi15243
09/12/17 10:49:45 AM
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
I'm against cruel and unusual punishment.

We're talking about child sex traffickers, not people. They're subhuman.


Yeah, brutally murdering them and torturing them to death for show or sport doesn't drag us down to their level at all. /s

I'm honestly fine with the death penalty/life in solitary confinement in cases involving those sick bastards. But you went a little far there
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Trigg3rH4ppy
09/12/17 10:52:43 AM
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We have a LONG history of that not working. Deterrence often doesn't play a strong role in people with certain qualities like sex offenders, serial killers, etc. That sort of mental illness is outside of reason.

Child sex trafficking isn't a mental illness. It's something gangs do to make money.

Idk you guys are probably right I do have some pretty ruthless points of view when it comes to people that harm children. In my mind the amount of pain they caused children justifies making sure they suffer even if it's just for the sake of making them suffer. I have no desire to rehabilitate these monsters.
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Santorin
09/12/17 10:54:39 AM
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I'm all about making people pay for their crimes against humanity.

Maybe if we weren't so afraid to hurt people who do horrific crimes against humanity they might be scared of consequences for their actions.
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AlisLandale
09/12/17 10:57:21 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
It makes us no better than such a criminal if we sink to such levels.


I mean, one person sells defenseless children into soul and body-destroying slavery for profit.

The other is unnecessarily brutal, but only carried out in reaction to other far worse crimes.

So while I definitely dont agree with bringing back ancient torture methods, the whole "makes us no better than them" is a really, really shallow argument.
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deanshow
09/12/17 10:57:42 AM
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I'm not opposed, fuck child traffickers and anyone that partakes in fucking kids should be hung. They're the reason why kids are being kidnapped and forced into the sex trade.
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AlisLandale
09/12/17 11:03:56 AM
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So your'e saying that proactively victimizing the innocent is equal to reactively torturing the people who commit those crimes.

Is that correct?

For the record, the rest of your reasons are sound. My issue is with the "killing a killer makes you as bad" cliche youre spouting.
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halomonkey1_3_5
09/12/17 11:04:26 AM
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what about wrongfully convicted people
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AlisLandale
09/12/17 11:07:24 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
AlisLandale posted...
So your'e saying that proactively victimizing the innocent is equal to reactively torturing the people who commit those crimes.

Is that correct?


What?


You said the OP makes us as bad as the sex traffikers.

So is "proactively victimizing the innocent" (sex traffikers who need no motivation other than their own greed)

Equal to

"Reactively punishing those criminals " (hypothetical torture that requires sex traffikers to exist, and only affects those traffikers)

Also i edited the previous post
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Santorin
09/12/17 11:08:28 AM
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halomonkey1_3_5 posted...
what about wrongfully convicted people


This is such a fucking stupid argument.

What about people who are 100% guilty beyond a reasonable doubt? People that have confessed? Caught on camera? Irrefutable evidence?

What about those fucking subhuman shit fucks?
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ghettoraider81
09/12/17 11:09:22 AM
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Fun fact about the Brazen Bull, the first person put to death in it was the guy that invented it.
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Santorin
09/12/17 11:12:40 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
I think that barbaric punishments make us no better than the criminal. We set our society backward with practices like that and there are tons of reasons why we stopped doing that.


This is a good argument.

However, do you not think people might think twice about their actions if they know the consequences for such horrific acts could mean such a horrible death?

Is it not worth the life's it could save just to simply look like we might respond in less humane methods to inhumane people?
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Santorin
09/12/17 11:16:57 AM
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Ok then can we stick with the gas chamber?

Which capital punishment do you think is ok?
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Questionmarktarius
09/12/17 11:18:23 AM
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
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**Brazen Bull

That would be a badass grill, were there steaks inside.
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halomonkey1_3_5
09/12/17 11:21:25 AM
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Santorin posted...
What about people who are 100% guilty beyond a reasonable doubt? People that have confessed? Caught on camera? Irrefutable evidence?

What about those fucking subhuman shit fucks?

why would anyone confess if they're gonna get cooked alive?
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AlisLandale
09/12/17 11:21:45 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...

I think that barbaric punishments make us no better than the criminal. We set our society backward with practices like that and there are tons of reasons why we stopped doing that.


This is what Im trying to wrap my head around.

Your reasons for the sake of society's overall health is good. Its in that area (and its general ineffectiveness) I agree with you.

But how do you morally equate sex traffiking (or any similar crime) to a hypothetical punishment that only affects those sam criminals?
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LordRazziel
09/12/17 11:23:26 AM
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TC has a twisted soul and should never be in a position of power. I can only imagine how many groups would become subhuman the second he had power.
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Nomadic View
09/12/17 11:24:19 AM
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
I'm against cruel and unusual punishment.

We're talking about child sex traffickers, not people. They're subhuman.


I think categorizing people as less than human, and revoking their constitutional rights, has a slippery slope problem.
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Santorin
09/12/17 11:26:56 AM
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I've had plenty of family that works in corrections and can tell you.

Some people are not fit for society and should be executed.

So happy we still have capital punishment.
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Santorin
09/12/17 11:29:47 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Santorin posted...
I've had plenty of family that works in corrections and can tell you.

Some people are not fit for society and should be executed.

So happy we still have capital punishment.


WTF...

That is very extreme.


It's true you just lack exposure\perspective.

Your bleeding heart mentality is fun and makes you feel fuzzy and warm inside but is not helping anyone but yourself.
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chill02
09/12/17 11:31:38 AM
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itachi15243 posted...
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DreadedWave
09/12/17 11:33:27 AM
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Santorin posted...
Some people are not fit for society and should be executed.

And who gets to decide who isn't fit for society? You?
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Santorin
09/12/17 11:35:58 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
No. I used to lack empathy like you and then I grew up.


No you just are removed from the dirty underbelly of society and do not understand how horrible people can be.

Some people deserve to be executed. End of story.

Thank god we still have capital punishment in most states.
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