Current Events > Can we talk about how good Batman Beyond was?

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The fact that they were able to create such a great show out of a completely original concept for Batman was incredible. It seems like it should have failed horribly and yet the final product was so tightly put together. It feels like such a natural progression of the Batman mythos.
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guys
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it was good

It doesn't hold up as well as some of the later DCAU shows. Otherwise it was pretty good.
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It was edge for the sake of edge and it ruined any of the classic Batman characters who appeared on the show. Bruce Wayne is a waste of a human being. Bane is paralyzed and slowly dying from what his steroids did to him. Characters are constantly suffering fates worse than death for no reason other than allowing the writers to pat themselves on the back over how "mature" their writing is.

It would have been decent as its own thing, but it failed as a followup to Batman, The Animated Series.

It was pretty cool but there was a SEVERE lack of compelling villains. I think Inque ended up being in the most episodes and she was super boring.

Batman Beyond was all kinds of badass.

I liked it, but the villains never really did it for me. I loved Batman but I can't think of any villains that stood out to me as memorable. the only ones I can even think of were just elderly versions of old batman villains or their kids or whatever. the original villains didn't seem that great. But the idea of a future batman was cool.

__aCEr__ posted...

It was pretty cool but there was a SEVERE lack of compelling villains. I think Inque ended up being in the most episodes and she was super boring.

Yeah, this was the issue Beyond had. Blight being his archenemy but only being in like six episodes was bad.
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It's pretty schway.
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The intro was rad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMXjtvMAFlI
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I loved it!
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__aCEr__ posted...

It was pretty cool but there was a SEVERE lack of compelling villains. I think Inque ended up being in the most episodes and she was super boring.

This it desperately needed reoccurring rival villains but instead had generic "villains of the week"

That's why the movie return of joker was so damn good, batsman beyond with a good villain

bobbysjoby posted...

__aCEr__ posted...

It was pretty cool but there was a SEVERE lack of compelling villains. I think Inque ended up being in the most episodes and she was super boring.

This it desperately needed reoccurring rival villains but instead had generic "villains of the week"

That's why the movie return of joker was so damn good, batsman beyond with a good villain

Yeah, the best episodes of Beyond tend to be the ones that use Batman's old villains too.

"Believe me. You're the only one who cares."
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Skye Reynolds posted...

Characters are constantly suffering fates worse than death for no reason other than allowing the writers to pat themselves on the back over how "mature" their writing is.

Tough but fair to some extent.

__aCEr__ posted...

It was pretty cool but there was a SEVERE lack of compelling villains. I think Inque ended up being in the most episodes and she was super boring.

Actually, you're completely overlooking Derk Powers. Although he adopted a proper supervillain persona later on as Blight, he was *always* a villain and was established as one in the first episode. Keep in mind that a lot of the supervillains on the show were contracted to do his dirty work, including Inque and Shriek.

pegusus123456 posted...

__aCEr__ posted...

It was pretty cool but there was a SEVERE lack of compelling villains. I think Inque ended up being in the most episodes and she was super boring.

Yeah, this was the issue Beyond had. Blight being his archenemy but only being in like six episodes was bad.

Well... even when he wasn't around, his presence was still felt (including as mentions). Plus it's kinda weird to over-include villains. The Batman, for instance, had too little variety. Joker and/or Penguin appeared in over half its episodes, often at the same time.
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You mean that mediocre spinoff that was riding on the dick of Batman the Animated Series?
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That episode when ras al ghul took over talias body

Was,creepy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3QgS93ecas

*air guitars*
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Zeus posted...

Actually, you're completely overlooking Derk Powers. Although he adopted a proper supervillain persona later on as Blight, he was *always* a villain and was established as one in the first episode. Keep in mind that a lot of the supervillains on the show were contracted to do his dirty work, including Inque and Shriek.

Inque still had more episodes that Powers.
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pegusus123456 posted...

__aCEr__ posted...

It was pretty cool but there was a SEVERE lack of compelling villains. I think Inque ended up being in the most episodes and she was super boring.

Yeah, this was the issue Beyond had. Blight being his archenemy but only being in like six episodes was bad.

Seems like he was in less episodes than that
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TheoryzC posted...

pegusus123456 posted...

__aCEr__ posted...

It was pretty cool but there was a SEVERE lack of compelling villains. I think Inque ended up being in the most episodes and she was super boring.

Yeah, this was the issue Beyond had. Blight being his archenemy but only being in like six episodes was bad.

Seems like he was in less episodes than that

I don't remember the exact number mang
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pegusus123456 posted...

Zeus posted...

Actually, you're completely overlooking Derk Powers. Although he adopted a proper supervillain persona later on as Blight, he was *always* a villain and was established as one in the first episode. Keep in mind that a lot of the supervillains on the show were contracted to do his dirty work, including Inque and Shriek.

Inque still had more episodes that Powers.

She didn't. She only appeared in 4 episodes and got 1 mention in another episode. Derek Powers was featured in more episodes and mentioned in more episodes, in addition to his company indirectly serving as an antagonist in even more episodes.

It's worth noting that several other rogues had 3 episodes in addition to mentions, so she's not that far ahead of the others.
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Beyond was pretty good, yeah.

pegusus123456 posted...

bobbysjoby posted...

__aCEr__ posted...

It was pretty cool but there was a SEVERE lack of compelling villains. I think Inque ended up being in the most episodes and she was super boring.

This it desperately needed reoccurring rival villains but instead had generic "villains of the week"

That's why the movie return of joker was so damn good, batsman beyond with a good villain

Yeah, the best episodes of Beyond tend to be the ones that use Batman's old villains too.

"Believe me. You're the only one who cares."

I'm not trying to cry at work!
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I liked it because I was not turned off by Terry McGinnis as a character.

Critics constantly mention the "edgy for the sake of edginess" of Batman Beyond, but none of that is really due to how Terry himself was portrayed. If everything, he was the LEAST edgy of the male Bat crew as far as Bat cartoons and comics. The series was shown with a darker tone than Batman: the Animated Series and Terry's origin did have some personal tragedy typical of Bat characters, but it never really defined his character. That tragedy wasn't something that was constantly brought up as reinforcement for him to be a crime fighter. He just progressed into wanting to do it because he matured and saw the city needed a new Batman.

It actually made him more relatable to a broader amount of viewers compared to other Bat characters who are infamous for always brooding over their dark incredible pasts.


Some other things I liked about Terry was that:
- he wasn't born into wealth or experienced privilege. He wasn't a rich boy, circus acrobat, martial arts prodigy, etc.
- he wasn't overwritten into some obsessive "peak physical athlete" bordering superhuman. The Bat suit gave him abilities.
- despite having the suit, there were a lot of moments where it was Terry's character that turned things around, not the suit.
- we actually got to see him happy and act human

Basically there wasn't anything really exceptionally dark or "extraordinary" about Terry at all. He just eventually wanted to do the right thing because Bruce Wayne accepted it. I liked that. Even with the whole "Epilogue" hax revealed later (which did not guarantee he would be a copy of Bruce anyway). I would like to see a reboot in the future.
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