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wah_wah_wah 09/03/17 12:37:40 PM #1: |
They would, however, to end dependence on fossil fuels. I'm not sure why liberals constantly frame the issue in as abstract a way as climate change, when the real issue is fossil fuels. If we're going to be staying permanent as a species, we're going to have to stop using them eventually, why wait til cold turkey?
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tennisdude818 09/03/17 12:43:34 PM #2: |
No first world country can politically handle a reduction in government deficits and spending even though entitlements are doomed. And some democrats think climate change is a winning platform? The idea that the climate will supposedly be very different in 100 years (or fossil fuels will be gone in the year 2xxx) is supposed to mobilize people to make sacrifices, but don't touch my social security, math be damned.
Even if the predictions of Al Gore are correct, voters are not willing to make sacrifices. --- "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jiek_Fafn 09/03/17 12:44:41 PM #3: |
Agreed
There's a ton of bad marketing practices in regards to climate change. They dont understand the demographic and are failing to achieve their goals because of it. This is something that should be easy push and yet here we are. --- PSN: Jiek ... Copied to Clipboard!
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--kresnik-- 09/03/17 12:46:26 PM #4: |
Climate change is a myth. Weather patterns have existed as long as we can go back. This is a deflection from the immigration and sjw crap these globalists want.
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MaverickXeo 09/03/17 12:47:37 PM #5: |
tennisdude818 posted...
No first world country can politically handle a reduction in government deficits and spending even though entitlements are doomed. And some democrats think climate change is a winning platform? The idea that the climate will supposedly be very different in 100 years (or fossil fuels will be gone in the year 2xxx) is supposed to mobilize people to make sacrifices, but don't touch my social security, math be damned. Al Gore has yet to be right. Every 'prediction' he has made thus far has been nothing but fear mongering. --- --- MaverickXeo --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tennisdude818 09/03/17 12:50:33 PM #6: |
MaverickXeo posted...
tennisdude818 posted...No first world country can politically handle a reduction in government deficits and spending even though entitlements are doomed. And some democrats think climate change is a winning platform? The idea that the climate will supposedly be very different in 100 years (or fossil fuels will be gone in the year 2xxx) is supposed to mobilize people to make sacrifices, but don't touch my social security, math be damned. Well that's true. --- "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wah_wah_wah 09/03/17 1:00:07 PM #7: |
tennisdude818 posted...
No first world country can politically handle a reduction in government deficits and spending even though entitlements are doomed. And some democrats think climate change is a winning platform? The idea that the climate will supposedly be very different in 100 years (or fossil fuels will be gone in the year 2xxx) is supposed to mobilize people to make sacrifices, but don't touch my social security, math be damned. There wouldn't be any sacrifice by phasing out fossil fuels. It in fact would only rid us of a dangerously volatile commodity. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 09/03/17 1:01:41 PM #8: |
One of the biggest problems with moving off fossil fuels is that the liberals who champion this are often the same ones who shit on the best alternative we currently have -- nuclear power. If it wasn't for the fear mongering and ridiculous anti-nuclear propaganda from the left, we'd have been off of fossil fuels a couple decades ago.
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tennisdude818 09/03/17 1:04:38 PM #9: |
wah_wah_wah posted...
tennisdude818 posted...No first world country can politically handle a reduction in government deficits and spending even though entitlements are doomed. And some democrats think climate change is a winning platform? The idea that the climate will supposedly be very different in 100 years (or fossil fuels will be gone in the year 2xxx) is supposed to mobilize people to make sacrifices, but don't touch my social security, math be damned. If it's no sacrifice, then you don't need the government to force it? --- "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wah_wah_wah 09/03/17 1:05:54 PM #10: |
There are Greenpeace libs that just want all of humanity to die off to make room for the manatees and squirrels, but there are also plenty on the left that would like to see a regulated nuclear power comeback. Although you would have to find a place to store the spent uranium, which hasn't been done in America. I suggest Trump Tower (jk).
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wah_wah_wah 09/03/17 1:07:37 PM #11: |
tennisdude818 posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...tennisdude818 posted...No first world country can politically handle a reduction in government deficits and spending even though entitlements are doomed. And some democrats think climate change is a winning platform? The idea that the climate will supposedly be very different in 100 years (or fossil fuels will be gone in the year 2xxx) is supposed to mobilize people to make sacrifices, but don't touch my social security, math be damned. Governments subsidizes oil and gas to the tune of hundreds of billions every single year. If the same money was put into renewable energy, you'd see a different reality. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lorenzo_2003 09/03/17 1:08:45 PM #12: |
tennisdude818 posted...
Dude, even Al Gore isn't willing to make sacrifices. I'm not going to expect the average Joe voter to do it either. --- ... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 09/03/17 1:12:01 PM #13: |
wah_wah_wah posted...
Although you would have to find a place to store the spent uranium Antarctica seems pretty obvious. Prevailing winds and ocean currents keep it mostly isolated from the rest of the climate, and the actual ground is covered by a mile of ice. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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