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JosefuJustice11
08/30/17 9:29:48 PM
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Do you believe in the theory of evolution?


Simple question.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
08/30/17 9:31:31 PM
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I accept it as the only remotely plausible explanation for the diversity of life.
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K181
08/30/17 9:32:51 PM
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I'm hesitant to say "believe," as that would imply there's some form of leap of faith involved. People don't ask others if they believe in gravity, after all. It's a scientific fact, the processes behind which are where the study gets interesting.
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Fam_Fam
08/30/17 9:33:25 PM
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K181 posted...
I'm hesitant to say "believe," as that would imply there's some form of leap of faith involved. People don't ask others if they believe in gravity, after all. It's a scientific fact, the processes behind which are where the study gets interesting.


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AmonAmarth
08/30/17 9:33:38 PM
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mostly yes, but I have some doubts, simply because science changes with new discoveries.
the same with most theories.
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LittleRoyal
08/30/17 9:34:41 PM
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I mean mostly

But why the fuck come to land? What made them think that's a great idea and how did they even evolve lungs? And wtf is with whales going back and forth pick a side
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Romulox28
08/30/17 9:36:04 PM
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No. The Lord created Adam & Eve and all the creatures, and that was how it was until God Almighty sent the Great Flood and Noah took two of every animal onto his ark. None of this "durrrr wolves turned into dogs somehow!" bullshit.
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Vertania
08/30/17 9:36:22 PM
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Fam_Fam posted...
no

It's a fact that evolution happens and has been happening for millions of years.
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K181
08/30/17 9:37:14 PM
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Fam_Fam posted...
K181 posted...
I'm hesitant to say "believe," as that would imply there's some form of leap of faith involved. People don't ask others if they believe in gravity, after all. It's a scientific fact, the processes behind which are where the study gets interesting.


no


Yes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_as_fact_and_theory
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Vertania
08/30/17 9:38:09 PM
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LittleRoyal posted...
But why the fuck come to land?

Less competition for resources and less threat from predators.
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JosefuJustice11
08/30/17 9:38:18 PM
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K181 posted...
I'm hesitant to say "believe," as that would imply there's some form of leap of faith involved. People don't ask others if they believe in gravity, after all. It's a scientific fact, the processes behind which are where the study gets interesting.

Good answer.
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LittleRoyal
08/30/17 9:38:37 PM
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Vertania posted...
LittleRoyal posted...
But why the fuck come to land?

Less competition for resources and less threat from predators.

Sorry I get why

But how the fuck
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ThePrinceFish
08/30/17 9:38:53 PM
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I believe in the heritability of traits as a natural law created by God not much different than gravity or other physical natural phenomenon.

So yes?
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Fam_Fam
08/30/17 9:42:20 PM
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K181 posted...
Fam_Fam posted...
K181 posted...
I'm hesitant to say "believe," as that would imply there's some form of leap of faith involved. People don't ask others if they believe in gravity, after all. It's a scientific fact, the processes behind which are where the study gets interesting.


no


Yes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_as_fact_and_theory


He describes fact in science as meaning data, not absolute certainty but "confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent"

This is changing the meaning of fact to mean something very, very likely. This is not the actual meaning of fact. I would argue that a fact is something that is 100% true.
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Squidkids
08/30/17 9:44:03 PM
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K181 posted...
I'm hesitant to say "believe," as that would imply there's some form of leap of faith involved. People don't ask others if they believe in gravity, after all. It's a scientific fact, the processes behind which are where the study gets interesting.

this, evolution IS REAL, you see it in modern times even on small adjustments to environment. It is a different matter if you think it is 100% correct or not or if everything started from the same source (could been some parallel workings)

I came here to remark on the use of "believe"
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K181
08/30/17 9:46:35 PM
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Fact: Evolution has occurred and is occurring, and here's the fossil record showing it and evidence of it on a microlevel in bacteria.

Theory: The use of the modern synthesis model of the theory of evolution to explain the mechanics of evolution.

So, yes. Evolution is both fact and theory.
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Deadpool_18
08/30/17 9:47:30 PM
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I agree with the facts of evolution, yes.
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ManLink4321
08/30/17 9:50:06 PM
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Evolution has no facts that are even remotely true. What can evolution produce in regards to the irreducible complexity found in molecular machines? Nothing.
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JosefuJustice11
08/30/17 9:51:51 PM
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Squidkids posted...
K181 posted...
I'm hesitant to say "believe," as that would imply there's some form of leap of faith involved. People don't ask others if they believe in gravity, after all. It's a scientific fact, the processes behind which are where the study gets interesting.

this, evolution IS REAL, you see it in modern times even on small adjustments to environment. It is a different matter if you think it is 100% correct or not or if everything started from the same source (could been some parallel workings)

I came here to remark on the use of "believe"

I used "believe" as meaning accepting it as a scientific fact.

That word seems to be less offensive to the Conservatives in my area so I used it instead.
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Deadpool_18
08/30/17 9:52:33 PM
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ManLink4321 posted...
Evolution has no facts


Wrong
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ManLink4321
08/30/17 9:53:40 PM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
ManLink4321 posted...
Evolution has no facts


Wrong


Name them, then. All of them.
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Dragonblade01
08/30/17 9:54:23 PM
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The phenomenon of evolution is repeatedly observed to the extent it can be considered scientific fact.

The theory of evolution is the explanation of the phenomenon and how it relates to the rest of our observations, and it's the best we've got based on the evidence.
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Sativa_Rose
08/30/17 9:58:01 PM
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Of course. It's pretty obvious once you see the evidence, and I'm not even educated enough in biology to have seen the most compelling of all evidence for evolution, which I've heard is the DNA/microbiology related proof.
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Squidkids
08/30/17 10:00:44 PM
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JosefuJustice11 posted...
Squidkids posted...
K181 posted...
I'm hesitant to say "believe," as that would imply there's some form of leap of faith involved. People don't ask others if they believe in gravity, after all. It's a scientific fact, the processes behind which are where the study gets interesting.

this, evolution IS REAL, you see it in modern times even on small adjustments to environment. It is a different matter if you think it is 100% correct or not or if everything started from the same source (could been some parallel workings)

I came here to remark on the use of "believe"

I used "believe" as meaning accepting it as a scientific fact.

That word seems to be less offensive to the Conservatives in my area so I used it instead.

yeah ok, and trump thinks global warming is a myth
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ManLink4321
08/30/17 10:04:08 PM
#25:


Dragonblade01 posted...
The phenomenon of evolution is repeatedly observed to the extent it can be considered scientific fact.

The theory of evolution is the explanation of the phenomenon and how it relates to the rest of our observations, and it's the best we've got based on the evidence.


What about the observation that evolution has no evidence?
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Dragonblade01
08/30/17 10:06:17 PM
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That's not an observation any reasonable and/or honest individual has made in over a century.
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ManLink4321
08/30/17 10:08:42 PM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
That's not an observation any reasonable and/or honest individual has made in over a century.


www.trueorigin.org
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Bloodychess
08/30/17 10:09:31 PM
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Fam_Fam posted...
K181 posted...
Fam_Fam posted...
K181 posted...
I'm hesitant to say "believe," as that would imply there's some form of leap of faith involved. People don't ask others if they believe in gravity, after all. It's a scientific fact, the processes behind which are where the study gets interesting.


no


Yes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_as_fact_and_theory


He describes fact in science as meaning data, not absolute certainty but "confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent"

This is changing the meaning of fact to mean something very, very likely. This is not the actual meaning of fact. I would argue that a fact is something that is 100% true.

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Hexagon
08/30/17 10:12:16 PM
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A theory is an explanation for the facts...To say "the theory of evolution is a theory and not fact" is a nonsense statement.

The only thing higher than a theory is a law, but laws are explanations of phenomena expected to be universal. There is no reason to expect that all life forms in the universe show the phenomena of evolution, therefore evolution is "only" a theory and not a law.
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Dragonblade01
08/30/17 10:14:04 PM
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ManLink4321 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
That's not an observation any reasonable and/or honest individual has made in over a century.


www.trueorigin.org

Yes, that's an excellent example of what I just said.
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CircleOfManias
08/30/17 10:15:11 PM
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ManLink4321 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
That's not an observation any reasonable and/or honest individual has made in over a century.


www.trueorigin.org


That's about as reputable a source as the Flat Earth Society.
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Eevee-Trainer
08/30/17 10:15:51 PM
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K181 posted...
I'm hesitant to say "believe," as that would imply there's some form of leap of faith involved. People don't ask others if they believe in gravity, after all. It's a scientific fact, the processes behind which are where the study gets interesting.

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Romes187
08/30/17 10:16:27 PM
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I believe in competence without comprehension
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JosefuJustice11
08/30/17 10:17:39 PM
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Hexagon posted...
A theory is an explanation for the facts...To say "the theory of evolution is a theory and not fact" is a nonsense statement.

The only thing higher than a theory is a law, but laws are explanations of phenomena expected to be universal. There is no reason to expect that all life forms in the universe show the phenomena of evolution, therefore evolution is "only" a theory and not a law.

Another good answer.
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ManLink4321
08/30/17 10:22:43 PM
#35:


CircleOfManias posted...
ManLink4321 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
That's not an observation any reasonable and/or honest individual has made in over a century.


www.trueorigin.org


That's about as reputable a source as the Flat Earth Society.


How so? Is it because you can't deal with the overwhelming evidence for creation?
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JosefuJustice11
08/30/17 10:22:55 PM
#36:


This topic is weeding out those with no knowledge on the basis of theories and laws of science as a whole.
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chill02
08/30/17 10:24:30 PM
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JosefuJustice11 posted...
K181 posted...
I'm hesitant to say "believe," as that would imply there's some form of leap of faith involved. People don't ask others if they believe in gravity, after all. It's a scientific fact, the processes behind which are where the study gets interesting.

Good answer.

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gamepimp12
08/30/17 10:29:21 PM
#38:


it's a Scientific fact, which aren't facts in the sense it's 100% proven without a shadow of a doubt.

But kinda
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Fam_Fam
08/30/17 10:30:53 PM
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gamepimp12 posted...
it's a Scientific fact, which aren't facts in the sense it's 100% proven without a shadow of a doubt.

But kinda
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CircleOfManias
08/30/17 10:32:39 PM
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gamepimp12 posted...
it's a Scientific fact, which aren't facts in the sense it's 100% proven without a shadow of a doubt.

But kinda


The Cartesian Demon thought experiment shows that "proven without a shadow of a doubt" is an impossible standard to apply to anything other than your own existence.
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Dragonblade01
08/30/17 10:35:18 PM
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A scientific fact is some phenomenon which can be repeatedly observed and verified. Gravity is a scientific fact, for example, because we can observe the phenomenon of large bodies attracting things around them. The scientific fact doesn't change regardless of the theory behind it unless the observation changes (and it should be noted that gravity did undergo a pretty radical change in theory despite the scientific fact remaining largely the same).
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apolloooo
08/30/17 10:40:18 PM
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I dont just believe, i try to understand it. Well i am not an evolutionary scientist, but fron what i gathered and and understand, it makes sense and the evidence and its inner workings had me convinved to hold it as a fact by default right now, unless something new is discovered that disprove.

After all, creatures change, DNA do mutate on their own randomly, that alone are facts you can observe. There is almost no room for doubt.

The holes in evolutionary science mostly come from which evolved from which. The process of mutation and selection itself is undoubtedly true
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JosefuJustice11
08/30/17 10:41:57 PM
#43:


Dragonblade01 posted...
A scientific fact is some phenomenon which can be repeatedly observed and verified. Gravity is a scientific fact, for example, because we can observe the phenomenon of large bodies attracting things around it. The scientific fact doesn't change regardless of the theory behind it unless the observation changes (and it should be noted that gravity did undergo a pretty radical change in theory despite the scientific fact remaining largely the same).


apolloooo posted...
I dont just believe, i try to understand it. Well i am not an evolutionary scientist, but fron what i gathered and and understand, it makes sense and the evidence and its inner workings had me convinved to hold it as a fact by default right now, unless something new is discovered that disprove.

After all, creatures change, DNA do mutate on their own randomly, that alone are facts you can observe. There is almost no room for doubt.

The holes in evolutionary science mostly come from which evolved from which. The process of mutation and selection itself is undoubtedly true

Very good answers.
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