Current Events > Kathy Griffin calls out Trump's atrocities. What atrocities?

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nativengine
08/30/17 1:29:25 PM
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We are crumbling from the inside out. At this point we don't need to worry about foreign invaders, we're all just gonna kill each other.
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hockeybub89
08/30/17 1:29:48 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

Question: Would you rather be led into combat by someone who has a 2% likelihood of being suicidal, or someone who has a 40% likelihood of being suicidal?

Either one. Depends. People are individuals, not statistics. And proper medical care can help all kinds of people. There are people in all those restricted groups that would make great soldiers. Also, Trump's new policy makes no sense since he won't even kick out all trans people in the military. Just ones in certain roles.

Now defend Arpaio and his not getting a trial.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
He specifically denounced the Nazis. If you have a problem with him also denouncing your friends the Antifa thugs, cry about it at your next communist rally.

So would you be okay with Trump getting around to addressing a Muslim terror attack at his leisure and then making a statement about how <list of many types of bad people> need to stop and everyone needs to love each other? Would Republicans? Also, lol at me being a commie or loving Antifa. I should do your favorite thing and name a fallacy you are committing.
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Webmaster4531
08/30/17 1:33:12 PM
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literal_garbage posted...
EyeWontBeFooled posted...
literal_garbage posted...
Kathy griffin should have been thrown into jail as soon as she stepped out of line

America, everyone.

Someone trying to divide the country and collapse the government is a threat and needs to be dealt with quickly and harshly

So both her and Trump.
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hockeybub89
08/30/17 1:34:41 PM
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literal_garbage posted...
EyeWontBeFooled posted...
literal_garbage posted...
Kathy griffin should have been thrown into jail as soon as she stepped out of line

America, everyone.

Someone trying to divide the country and collapse the government is a threat and needs to be dealt with quickly and harshly

Ain't that some doubleplusungood shit
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literal_garbage
08/30/17 1:35:56 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
literal_garbage posted...
EyeWontBeFooled posted...
literal_garbage posted...
Kathy griffin should have been thrown into jail as soon as she stepped out of line

America, everyone.

Someone trying to divide the country and collapse the government is a threat and needs to be dealt with quickly and harshly

So both her and Trump.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/17 1:37:02 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Either one. Depends.

Ok so you're actually crazy.

New question: would you be ok with ordering someone else to serve under a potentially suicidal person?

hockeybub89 posted...
So would you be okay with Trump getting around to addressing a Muslim terror attack at his leisure and then making a statement about how <list of many types of bad people> need to stop and everyone needs to love each other?

If there were more groups than just muslims causing trouble at this particular event? Yes of course that would be fine. Why wouldnt it?
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Samurontai
08/30/17 1:38:14 PM
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/17 1:44:46 PM
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@Samurontai has that link bookmarked and diligently follows every post I make to respond with it regardless of the original context or what he's even responding to.

Sad.
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Capn Circus
08/30/17 1:46:41 PM
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She's just upset she can't hang out with Anderson Cooper anymore and do the new years show.

I guess she figures if she starts emulating CNN by bashing Trump, they'll forget and let her back in their club.
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Webmaster4531
08/30/17 1:50:05 PM
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literal_garbage posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
literal_garbage posted...
EyeWontBeFooled posted...
literal_garbage posted...
Kathy griffin should have been thrown into jail as soon as she stepped out of line

America, everyone.

Someone trying to divide the country and collapse the government is a threat and needs to be dealt with quickly and harshly

So both her and Trump.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque
You avoided having to engage with criticism by turning it back on the accuser - you answered criticism with criticism.

I said both. That's not avoiding the criticism of Kathy.
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A_Good_Boy
08/30/17 1:50:36 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
@Samurontai has that link bookmarked and diligently follows every post I make to respond with it regardless of the original context or what he's even responding to.

Sad.

Yet you have pages upon pages of bookmarked posts just call attention to people on Tumblr on a bi-weekly basis. Sad!
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literal_garbage
08/30/17 1:54:14 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
literal_garbage posted...
EyeWontBeFooled posted...
literal_garbage posted...
Kathy griffin should have been thrown into jail as soon as she stepped out of line

America, everyone.

Someone trying to divide the country and collapse the government is a threat and needs to be dealt with quickly and harshly

Ain't that some doubleplusungood shit

You're aware that in that book (that you've never read), the main character is a terrorist trying to overthrow a legitimate government, right?
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Samurontai
08/30/17 1:54:23 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
@Samurontai has that link bookmarked and diligently follows every post I make to respond with it regardless of the original context or what he's even responding to.

Sad.


I've only posted it what.... 3 times since I took it lol

And not bookmarked, Imgur saved ;)

And the original context, for everyone who is confused, is that Mal literally didn't know that NATO existed before 9/11, until he was told over and over again that it indeed was

Then he deleted his post (because he was ashamed that he could actually be as dimiwitted as those he supports) and came up with a shit excuse as to why he said specifically that

Nice to see your dumbassery still triggers you though :D. I'd be ashamed too, tbh
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hockeybub89
08/30/17 1:55:06 PM
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Real talk: I barely even know what a Kathy Griffin is or does. I know she has a terrible voice and that I saw her on Curb one time. And that she made a decapitated Trump head.
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Samurontai
08/30/17 1:55:09 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
@Samurontai has that link bookmarked and diligently follows every post I make to respond with it regardless of the original context or what he's even responding to.

Sad.

Yet you have pages upon pages of bookmarked posts just call attention to people on Tumblr on a bi-weekly basis. Sad!


Him being a hypocrite is precisely why I post that screenshot everytime he tries to claim to be "intellectually superior" to anyone else
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unpleasant_milk
08/30/17 1:56:47 PM
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SageHarpuia posted...
Dragon56 posted...
as is his big shit orange face

Oh look, another liberal mocking someone because of their skin color.


Lol, swap orange for black and 'cue' outrage.
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hockeybub89
08/30/17 1:58:04 PM
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I'd have screenshots of the things I hate about people like Mal and Addy, but it's hard to take pictures of not responding to things.
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A_Good_Boy
08/30/17 2:00:05 PM
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unpleasant_milk posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
Dragon56 posted...
as is his big shit orange face

Oh look, another liberal mocking someone because of their skin color.


Lol, swap orange for black and 'cue' outrage.

Cause "orange skin" isn't an actual thing, but congrats in getting triggered over literally nothing though.
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/17 2:05:10 PM
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Samurontai posted...
And the original context, for everyone who is confused, is that Mal literally didn't know that NATO existed before 9/11, until he was told over and over again that it indeed was

Wroooooong.

And this is why no one responds to you.
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/17 2:06:24 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
I'd have screenshots of the things I hate about people like Mal and Addy, but it's hard to take pictures of not responding to things.

He says, half an hour after not responding to my post ;)
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hockeybub89
08/30/17 2:07:30 PM
#72:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Real talk: I barely even know what a Kathy Griffin is or does. I know she has a terrible voice and that I saw her on Curb one time. And that she made a decapitated Trump head.

He says, half an hour after not responding to my post ;)

Responding to which post? Oh I legit missed that one.
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ManSpread
08/30/17 2:14:02 PM
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/17 2:17:29 PM
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ManSpread posted...
i thought mal wasnt pro trump

I'm either pro or anti policy, not people.

And so far, I have no problems with Trump's policies.
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A_Good_Boy
08/30/17 2:19:39 PM
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ManSpread posted...
i thought mal wasnt pro trump

He's equally critical of both Trump and Obama, despite never finding fault in Trump and only ever seeing nothing but with Obama.
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hockeybub89
08/30/17 2:21:17 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Ok so you're actually crazy.

New question: would you be ok with ordering someone else to serve under a potentially suicidal person?

Everyone is potentially suicidal. Seems a little shitty to say people shouldn't be allowed to serve in positions of power because they have disorders when you could just treat them. I cannot say I inherently trust someone less just because I know they have a mental condition. Maybe it's because I can empathize with the struggle. Imagine if every job treated sick people like this. Wait. I can't because most jobs don't let you discriminate against them due to conditions. It is downright insulting that the military has such archaic views on mental illness.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
If there were more groups than just muslims causing trouble at this particular event? Yes of course that would be fine. Why wouldnt it?

But it wouldn't be fine and you're a liar. Not all violence or bad behavior is created equal. If an ISIS protest resulted in a Muslim terrorist killing people, it would be ridiculous to point out all sides need to chill. I don't fucking care what a small portion of counterprotesters do. The sides aren't equal. You single out the terrorists and the inherently hateful, deadly ideology of those fuckers. And you know damn well Trump would not be such a hippy in that situation either.
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hockeybub89
08/30/17 2:21:56 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
ManSpread posted...
i thought mal wasnt pro trump

I'm either pro or anti policy, not people.

And so far, I have no problems with Trump's policies.

Because he's so big and juicy.
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hockeybub89
08/30/17 2:23:29 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
ManSpread posted...
i thought mal wasnt pro trump

I'm either pro or anti policy, not people.

And so far, I have no problems with Trump's policies.

Pure coincidence he hates every Obama policy and loves every Trump one.
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That_Happened
08/30/17 2:56:54 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Transgenders have a 40% suicide rate.


According to a recent poll, CE has a 70% mental illness rate (of the roughly 150 people who responded).

Not that I think CEmen should enlist. I just thought it was interesting.
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/17 3:50:44 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Everyone is potentially suicidal. Seems a little s***ty to say people shouldn't be allowed to serve in positions of power because they have disorders when you could just treat them.

There is no treatment for transgenderism that reduces their suicide rate more than a few percentage points. There's medication for depression at least, but the suicide rate still doesn't drop below acceptable levels. You don't have a right to serve in the military, so they should be able to determine how best to recruit without bleeding hearts acting like it's a human rights issue, because it isn't.

hockeybub89 posted...
But it wouldn't be fine and you're a liar

Yes it would be fine and no I'm not. If there were a clash between a muslim group and the WBC, and one muslim decides to blow himself up, I would have no issue with Trump shitting on the WBC. Are you saying you would?

Because it was not just a small portion of Antifa being thugs. There's video all over the internet of them assaulting people without provocation. And before the guy drove into the crowd, people were beating on his car with bats. It is completely dishonest to say only one side was being violent.
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Kim Kusanagi
08/30/17 4:07:28 PM
#81:


Mal "libertarian trumpanzee" Fet
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Wolf_J_Flywheel
08/30/17 4:15:02 PM
#82:


_Near_ posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
No one has been called a Nazi in this topic

No but Admiral was called a Nazi defender for a comment that had nothing to do with Nazis. Reading comprehension bro


lol, admiral uses the same rhetoric when calling the left regressive for trying to ban nazi speech. literally every single topic he equates banning nazi speech to banning speech that hurts your feelings.

admiral is a white supremacist defender through and through. just like trump.


When that happen? Proof? Surely there would be video.
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/17 5:02:02 PM
#83:


Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
When that happen? Proof? Surely there would be video.

Well you see, because Trump denounced someone other than Nazis within 60 seconds of denouncing Nazis, it basically means he loves Nazis.

</CNN>
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A_Good_Boy
08/30/17 5:03:03 PM
#84:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
When that happen? Proof? Surely there would be video.

Well you see, because Trump denounced someone other than Nazis within 60 seconds of denouncing Nazis, it basically means he loves Nazis.

</CNN>

The nazis themselves took it that way as well. Looks like you're pretty much alone on this one.
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/17 5:03:37 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
When that happen? Proof? Surely there would be video.

Well you see, because Trump denounced someone other than Nazis within 60 seconds of denouncing Nazis, it basically means he loves Nazis.

</CNN>

The nazis themselves took it that way as well. Looks like you're pretty much alone on this one.

Why do you care so much what Nazis think?

Trump denounced Nazis several times now. Get over it.
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That_Happened
08/30/17 5:04:10 PM
#86:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
And before the guy drove into the crowd, people were beating on his car with bats.


Has anyone proven this with a video yet? I still haven't seen it.
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Axiom
08/30/17 5:04:30 PM
#87:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
When that happen? Proof? Surely there would be video.

Well you see, because Trump denounced someone other than Nazis within 60 seconds of denouncing Nazis, it basically means he loves Nazis.

</CNN>

The nazis themselves took it that way as well. Looks like you're pretty much alone on this one.

Why do you care so much what Nazis think?

Trump denounced Nazis several times now. Get over it.

Of course Mal thinks there's nothing wrong with reassuring Nazis
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Kim Kusanagi
08/30/17 5:08:33 PM
#88:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
And before the guy drove into the crowd, people were beating on his car with bats.


LMAO what an asspull
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Bishop9800
08/30/17 5:28:19 PM
#89:


That_Happened posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
And before the guy drove into the crowd, people were beating on his car with bats.


Has anyone proven this with a video yet? I still haven't seen it.

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_Near_
08/30/17 5:44:20 PM
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Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
_Near_ posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
No one has been called a Nazi in this topic

No but Admiral was called a Nazi defender for a comment that had nothing to do with Nazis. Reading comprehension bro


lol, admiral uses the same rhetoric when calling the left regressive for trying to ban nazi speech. literally every single topic he equates banning nazi speech to banning speech that hurts your feelings.

admiral is a white supremacist defender through and through. just like trump.


When that happen? Proof? Surely there would be video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK1fs-xz4SI


*Refuses to put Nazis on an evil moral plane
*Calls people attending Nazi/KKK Rally fine people
*Calls people attending Nazi/KKK Rally peaceful, quiet protesters

You know what happened after this? Nazis and KKK rejoiced at the warmth and understanding granted by the President. Literally sympathizing with white supremacists.

And this should come as a shock of no one. Trump has a history of housing discrimination against black people, spent thousands of dollars calling for innocent black teenagers to get the death penalty, built a whole campaign upon kicking out Muslims, and building a great wall to keep out Mexicans (whom he called rapists), surrounded himself with white Supremacist sympathizers like Gorka and Bannon, and uses nationalistic, divisive rhetoric to inspire his support.

You really have to be blind to not see this.
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hockeybub89
08/30/17 5:59:22 PM
#91:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
There is no treatment for transgenderism that reduces their suicide rate more than a few percentage points. There's medication for depression at least, but the suicide rate still doesn't drop below acceptable levels. You don't have a right to serve in the military, so they should be able to determine how best to recruit without bleeding hearts acting like it's a human rights issue, because it isn't.

Uhh trans people kill themselves because they are depressed, not because they are trans. They aren't immune to antidepressants or some shit. Again, we don't have a right to any specific job, but discriminating due to illness is typically still frowned upon, if not illegal.

Sephiroth1288 posted...

Yes it would be fine and no I'm not. If there were a clash between a muslim group and the WBC, and one muslim decides to blow himself up, I would have no issue with Trump shitting on the WBC. Are you saying you would?

Because it was not just a small portion of Antifa being thugs. There's video all over the internet of them assaulting people without provocation. And before the guy drove into the crowd, people were beating on his car with bats. It is completely dishonest to say only one side was being violent.

Yes I would find issue with addressing WBC in that instance. They didn't commit terrorism. They never have. They are a tiny group of human garbage, but they have no teeth.

It is also disingenuous to call Antifa the side that was against Nazis in Charlottesville when they are a formless group that didn't make up the majority of counter protesters. Meanwhile, you had Nazis holding a violent hate rally and one of them committing terrorism. Trumps comments tried to make many sides as equals and that is both wrong and complete out of line in the wake of an act of terror.

I didn't know Trump was a pussy or that you supported such a spineless liberal attitude.
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hockeybub89
08/30/17 6:15:55 PM
#92:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
When that happen? Proof? Surely there would be video.

Well you see, because Trump denounced someone other than Nazis within 60 seconds of denouncing Nazis, it basically means he loves Nazis.

</CNN>

The nazis themselves took it that way as well. Looks like you're pretty much alone on this one.

Why do you care so much what Nazis think?

Trump denounced Nazis several times now. Get over it.

Well he failed because the Nazis feel empowered by their "ally". God, he can't even denounce Nazis without it backfiring. He better keep trying until they don't confuse his message. We don't want them getting brave and holding more violent rallies because they think the President backs them.
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Wolf_J_Flywheel
08/30/17 7:33:00 PM
#93:


Axiom posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
When that happen? Proof? Surely there would be video.

Well you see, because Trump denounced someone other than Nazis within 60 seconds of denouncing Nazis, it basically means he loves Nazis.

</CNN>

The nazis themselves took it that way as well. Looks like you're pretty much alone on this one.

Why do you care so much what Nazis think?

Trump denounced Nazis several times now. Get over it.

Of course Mal thinks there's nothing wrong with reassuring Nazis

Again... who reassured nazis? The fuck does Trump have to do with how someone wants to perceive his words. Pretty much what you all are doing. When what he actually said is out there in plain English and can't be disputed.
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PtlessAgmnts
08/31/17 6:22:45 PM
#94:


lol oh griffin
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creativerealms
08/31/17 6:25:18 PM
#95:


Right now the worst Trump has done is laid out the foundation for atrocities. He has not committed any yet.
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Sephiroth1288
08/31/17 6:39:57 PM
#96:


creativerealms posted...
Right now the worst Trump has done is laid out the foundation for atrocities.

Care to elaborate
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Darmik
08/31/17 6:41:27 PM
#97:


Those tennis shorts he wore sure looked like an atrocity.
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--kresnik--
08/31/17 6:45:20 PM
#98:


SageHarpuia posted...
Dragon56 posted...
as is his big shit orange face

Oh look, another liberal mocking someone because of their skin color.

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darkphoenix181
08/31/17 6:48:31 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Which atrocities is she referring to?


he stole a woman's job in the ultimate act of evil patriarchy
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Sephiroth1288
08/31/17 6:49:01 PM
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--kresnik-- posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
Dragon56 posted...
as is his big shit orange face

Oh look, another liberal mocking someone because of their skin color.

SJWs dispense with all their notions of decency when dealing with people who disagree with them.

It's bad to fat shame...unless it's Republican politician. It's bad to slut-shame...unless it's a Republican politician's daughter. It's bad to be racist...unless they're a Republican, in which case feel free to call them a "house n*****"/judenrat/etc.
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