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Callixtus 08/29/17 6:00:06 PM #51:	A_Good_Boy posted... Callixtus posted... The "Catholic Church" never molested any boys. A few priests have. There is no evidence that Catholic priests have sexually abused children more than members of any other profession that has close contact with children or religious denomination for that matter, What does this passage mean to you? All I have stated is that there is no evidence that priests commit more abuse. Likewise, I do not have evidence that commit abuse less, so I won't assert it. It means no more than that. --- KhanofKhans, KhanJohnson, Saloonist, Basileos <cite>Callixtus posted [p:885675790] in How religi... [t:75720893]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote>The "Catholic Church" never molested any boys. A few priests have. There is no evidence that Catholic priests have sexually abused children more than members of any other profession that has close contact with children or religious denomination for that matter,</quote> What does this passage mean to you?</quote> All I have stated is that there is no evidence that priests commit more abuse. Likewise, I do not have evidence that commit abuse less, so I won't assert it. It means no more than that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 08/29/17 6:04:58 PM #52:	Callixtus posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Callixtus posted... The "Catholic Church" never molested any boys. A few priests have. There is no evidence that Catholic priests have sexually abused children more than members of any other profession that has close contact with children or religious denomination for that matter, What does this passage mean to you? All I have stated is that there is no evidence that priests commit more abuse. Likewise, I do not have evidence that commit abuse less, so I won't assert it. It means no more than that. So at best the belief in God actually has no effect at all on morals, according to you. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:885676046] in How religi... [t:75720893]...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote> The "Catholic Church" never molested any boys. A few priests have. There is no evidence that Catholic priests have sexually abused children more than members of any other profession that has close contact with children or religious denomination for that matter, </quote> What does this passage mean to you?</quote> All I have stated is that there is no evidence that priests commit more abuse. Likewise, I do not have evidence that commit abuse less, so I won't assert it. It means no more than that.</quote> So at best the belief in God actually has no effect at all on morals, according to you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 08/29/17 6:06:45 PM #53:	Callixtus posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Callixtus posted... Everyone want to speculate about all sorts of crazy reasons why this correlation might exist, but very few have considered a rather simple one: belief in God is a force for moral good. There's a reason very few have considered that... it is asinine. No, more like people that are biased against religious belief are biased against religious belief. Hardly surprising. "No, more like" makes absolutely no sense whatsoever in context. I have no idea what you are trying to say. The rest of your post however makes perfect sense and is completely logical, though it goes without saying. Overall, I'm not sure if there is a point that you are trying to make or not. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:885676151] in How religi... [t:75720893]...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote>Everyone want to speculate about all sorts of crazy reasons why this correlation might exist, but very few have considered a rather simple one: belief in God is a force for moral good.</quote> There's a reason very few have considered that... it is asinine.</quote> No, more like people that are biased against religious belief are biased against religious belief. Hardly surprising.</quote> "No, more like" makes absolutely no sense whatsoever in context. I have no idea what you are trying to say. The rest of your post however makes perfect sense and is completely logical, though it goes without saying. Overall, I'm not sure if there is a point that you are trying to make or not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 08/29/17 6:07:00 PM #54:	A_Good_Boy posted... So at best the belief in God actually has no effect at all on morals, according to you. How did you get THAT out of what he said? --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:885676163] in How religi... [t:75720893]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote>So at best the belief in God actually has no effect at all on morals, according to you.</quote> How did you get THAT out of what he said?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 08/29/17 6:08:53 PM #55:	Vindris_SNH posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... There's a reason very few have considered that... it is asinine. It's asinine to think that belief in God is a force for moral good? What a fantastically ignorant statement. Considering that most religions teach adherents to live in peace and harmony with others, to love others, to treat others with respect, to treat others how you would like to be treated... Most religions teach you that God wants you to do all of these things. And yet you say it is asinine to think that belief in God might be a force for moral good? After re-reading my post, I have failed to find any evidence of stuttering. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:885676287] in How religi... [t:75720893]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote>There's a reason very few have considered that... it is asinine.</quote> It's asinine to think that belief in God is a force for moral good? What a fantastically ignorant statement. Considering that most religions teach adherents to live in peace and harmony with others, to love others, to treat others with respect, to treat others how you would like to be treated... Most religions teach you that God wants you to do all of these things. And yet you say it is asinine to think that belief in God might be a force for moral good?</quote> After re-reading my post, I have failed to find any evidence of stuttering.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Callixtus 08/29/17 6:11:43 PM #56:	A_Good_Boy posted... Callixtus posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Callixtus posted... The "Catholic Church" never molested any boys. A few priests have. There is no evidence that Catholic priests have sexually abused children more than members of any other profession that has close contact with children or religious denomination for that matter, What does this passage mean to you? All I have stated is that there is no evidence that priests commit more abuse. Likewise, I do not have evidence that commit abuse less, so I won't assert it. It means no more than that. So at best the belief in God actually has no effect at all on morals, according to you. Nope, I don't think that at all. In fact I think the opposite, both based on evidence like that in the OP and also for personal anecdotal reasons, having known far more priests than the average CEman (ie more than 0). I'm not going to assert that regarding this particular question, that is, abuse by priests, that priests are less likely to commit abuse than other professions with contact with children that I have clear evidence exonerating priests as a class, because there is very little evidence to examine. (although there are a few things here or there suggesting they abuse at lesser rates: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/do-the-right-thing/201003/six-important-points-you-dont-hear-about-regarding-clergy-sexual) --- KhanofKhans, KhanJohnson, Saloonist, Basileos <cite>Callixtus posted [p:885676448] in How religi... [t:75720893]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote> The "Catholic Church" never molested any boys. A few priests have. There is no evidence that Catholic priests have sexually abused children more than members of any other profession that has close contact with children or religious denomination for that matter, </quote> What does this passage mean to you?</quote> All I have stated is that there is no evidence that priests commit more abuse. Likewise, I do not have evidence that commit abuse less, so I won't assert it. It means no more than that.</quote> So at best the belief in God actually has no effect at all on morals, according to you.</quote> Nope, I don't think that at all. In fact I think the opposite, both based on evidence like that in the OP and also for personal anecdotal reasons, having known far more priests than the average CEman (ie more than 0). I'm not going to assert that regarding this particular question, that is, abuse by priests, that priests are less likely to commit abuse than other professions with contact with children that I have clear evidence exonerating priests as a class, because there is very little evidence to examine. (although there are a few things here or there suggesting they abuse at lesser rates: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/do-the-right-thing/201003/six-important-points-you-dont-hear-about-regarding-clergy-sexual)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 08/29/17 6:12:22 PM #57:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Vindris_SNH posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... There's a reason very few have considered that... it is asinine. It's asinine to think that belief in God is a force for moral good? What a fantastically ignorant statement. Considering that most religions teach adherents to live in peace and harmony with others, to love others, to treat others with respect, to treat others how you would like to be treated... Most religions teach you that God wants you to do all of these things. And yet you say it is asinine to think that belief in God might be a force for moral good? After re-reading my post, I have failed to find any evidence of stuttering. Hard to believe someone would make such an ignorant statement. It's especially ignorant to stand your ground on something that has been proven as ignorant to you. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:885676478] in How religi... [t:75720893]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote>There's a reason very few have considered that... it is asinine.</quote> It's asinine to think that belief in God is a force for moral good? What a fantastically ignorant statement. Considering that most religions teach adherents to live in peace and harmony with others, to love others, to treat others with respect, to treat others how you would like to be treated... Most religions teach you that God wants you to do all of these things. And yet you say it is asinine to think that belief in God might be a force for moral good?</quote> After re-reading my post, I have failed to find any evidence of stuttering.</quote> Hard to believe someone would make such an ignorant statement. It's especially ignorant to stand your ground on something that has been proven as ignorant to you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Callixtus 08/29/17 6:13:04 PM #58:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Callixtus posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Callixtus posted... Everyone want to speculate about all sorts of crazy reasons why this correlation might exist, but very few have considered a rather simple one: belief in God is a force for moral good. There's a reason very few have considered that... it is asinine. No, more like people that are biased against religious belief are biased against religious belief. Hardly surprising. "No, more like" makes absolutely no sense whatsoever in context. I have no idea what you are trying to say. The rest of your post however makes perfect sense and is completely logical, though it goes without saying. Overall, I'm not sure if there is a point that you are trying to make or not. more like is just a colloquial phrase, essentially analogous to saying "it is more likely that" --- KhanofKhans, KhanJohnson, Saloonist, Basileos <cite>Callixtus posted [p:885676527] in How religi... [t:75720893]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote>Everyone want to speculate about all sorts of crazy reasons why this correlation might exist, but very few have considered a rather simple one: belief in God is a force for moral good.</quote> There's a reason very few have considered that... it is asinine.</quote> No, more like people that are biased against religious belief are biased against religious belief. Hardly surprising.</quote> "No, more like" makes absolutely no sense whatsoever in context. I have no idea what you are trying to say. The rest of your post however makes perfect sense and is completely logical, though it goes without saying. Overall, I'm not sure if there is a point that you are trying to make or not.</quote> more like is just a colloquial phrase, essentially analogous to saying "it is more likely that"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asdf8562 08/29/17 6:14:11 PM #59:	Vindris_SNH posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... There's a reason very few have considered that... it is asinine. It's asinine to think that belief in God is a force for moral good? What a fantastically ignorant statement. Considering that most religions teach adherents to live in peace and harmony with others, to love others, to treat others with respect, to treat others how you would like to be treated... Most religions teach you that God wants you to do all of these things. And yet you say it is asinine to think that belief in God might be a force for moral good? The statement isnt all that ignorant. Actually take a loop at history and religoun. You say its about peace and harmony yet history would show how problematic it has been in the name of religoun. For something thats suppose to be about peace and harmony, a lot of death happens because of religious beliefs, and the convenience of its rules where 1 minute your religious and the next complete bs is spewed for atrocities. <cite>asdf8562 posted [p:885676591] in How religi... [t:75720893]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote>There's a reason very few have considered that... it is asinine.</quote> It's asinine to think that belief in God is a force for moral good? What a fantastically ignorant statement. Considering that most religions teach adherents to live in peace and harmony with others, to love others, to treat others with respect, to treat others how you would like to be treated... Most religions teach you that God wants you to do all of these things. And yet you say it is asinine to think that belief in God might be a force for moral good?</quote> The statement isnt all that ignorant. Actually take a loop at history and religoun. You say its about peace and harmony yet history would show how problematic it has been in the name of religoun. For something thats suppose to be about peace and harmony, a lot of death happens because of religious beliefs, and the convenience of its rules where 1 minute your religious and the next complete bs is spewed for atrocities.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 08/29/17 6:15:12 PM #60:	@Vindris_SNH posted... Hexagon posted... Vindris_SNH posted... There is a correlation between regularly attending church, and less crime. That's it. Churchgoers are less likely to commit crime. The only dense person in this thread is you. "Churchgoers are less likely to commit crime" is a true statement because of the fact that there is a correlation between regularly attending church and committing less crime. You do a study that shows a correlation between lower crime rates and people regularly attending church. This establishes the fact that, statistically, churchgoers are less likely to commit a crime. How are you not getting this? Oh my god, he actually believes correlation equals causation. This is an actual first for me, I thought people like this were just fairy tales. Wow lmao. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:885676652] in How religi... [t:75720893]...</cite> <quote><cite>@Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexagon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>There is a correlation between regularly attending church, and less crime. That's it. </quote> <quote>Churchgoers are less likely to commit crime.</quote> The only dense person in this thread is you.</quote> "Churchgoers are less likely to commit crime" is a true statement because of the fact that there is a correlation between regularly attending church and committing less crime. You do a study that shows a correlation between lower crime rates and people regularly attending church. This establishes the fact that, statistically, churchgoers are less likely to commit a crime. How are you not getting this?</quote> Oh my god, he actually believes correlation equals causation. This is an actual first for me, I thought people like this were just fairy tales. Wow lmao.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 08/29/17 6:24:34 PM #61:	Vindris_SNH posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Vindris_SNH posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... There's a reason very few have considered that... it is asinine. It's asinine to think that belief in God is a force for moral good? What a fantastically ignorant statement. Considering that most religions teach adherents to live in peace and harmony with others, to love others, to treat others with respect, to treat others how you would like to be treated... Most religions teach you that God wants you to do all of these things. And yet you say it is asinine to think that belief in God might be a force for moral good? After re-reading my post, I have failed to find any evidence of stuttering. Hard to believe someone would make such an ignorant statement. It's especially ignorant to stand your ground on something that has been proven as ignorant to you. That's awfully presumptuous of you to leap to the conclusion that anything at all has been "proven to me" just because you've said a bunch of words, as though somehow those words have been convincing of anything. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:885677177] in How religi... [t:75720893]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote>There's a reason very few have considered that... it is asinine.</quote> It's asinine to think that belief in God is a force for moral good? What a fantastically ignorant statement. Considering that most religions teach adherents to live in peace and harmony with others, to love others, to treat others with respect, to treat others how you would like to be treated... Most religions teach you that God wants you to do all of these things. And yet you say it is asinine to think that belief in God might be a force for moral good?</quote> After re-reading my post, I have failed to find any evidence of stuttering.</quote> Hard to believe someone would make such an ignorant statement. It's especially ignorant to stand your ground on something that has been proven as ignorant to you.</quote> That's awfully presumptuous of you to leap to the conclusion that anything at all has been "proven to me" just because you've said a bunch of words, as though somehow those words have been convincing of anything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 08/29/17 6:28:57 PM #62:	Callixtus posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Callixtus posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Callixtus posted... Everyone want to speculate about all sorts of crazy reasons why this correlation might exist, but very few have considered a rather simple one: belief in God is a force for moral good. There's a reason very few have considered that... it is asinine. No, more like people that are biased against religious belief are biased against religious belief. Hardly surprising. "No, more like" makes absolutely no sense whatsoever in context. I have no idea what you are trying to say. The rest of your post however makes perfect sense and is completely logical, though it goes without saying. Overall, I'm not sure if there is a point that you are trying to make or not. more like is just a colloquial phrase, essentially analogous to saying "it is more likely that" Which pointlessly creates a redundancy which is already in and of itself a redundancy in "people biased against religion are biased against religion" by stating that it, as something factual to the point of redundancy, it is "likely." Again, there was no point in that part. It contributed nothing to what you were saying, which was simply stating the obvious anyway. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:885677413] in How religi... [t:75720893]...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote>Everyone want to speculate about all sorts of crazy reasons why this correlation might exist, but very few have considered a rather simple one: belief in God is a force for moral good.</quote> There's a reason very few have considered that... it is asinine.</quote> No, more like people that are biased against religious belief are biased against religious belief. Hardly surprising.</quote> "No, more like" makes absolutely no sense whatsoever in context. I have no idea what you are trying to say. The rest of your post however makes perfect sense and is completely logical, though it goes without saying. Overall, I'm not sure if there is a point that you are trying to make or not.</quote> more like is just a colloquial phrase, essentially analogous to saying "it is more likely that"</quote> Which pointlessly creates a redundancy which is already in and of itself a redundancy in "people biased against religion are biased against religion" by stating that it, as something factual to the point of redundancy, it is "likely." Again, there was no point in that part. It contributed nothing to what you were saying, which was simply stating the obvious anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Callixtus 08/29/17 6:29:59 PM #63:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Callixtus posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Callixtus posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Callixtus posted... Everyone want to speculate about all sorts of crazy reasons why this correlation might exist, but very few have considered a rather simple one: belief in God is a force for moral good. There's a reason very few have considered that... it is asinine. No, more like people that are biased against religious belief are biased against religious belief. Hardly surprising. "No, more like" makes absolutely no sense whatsoever in context. I have no idea what you are trying to say. The rest of your post however makes perfect sense and is completely logical, though it goes without saying. Overall, I'm not sure if there is a point that you are trying to make or not. more like is just a colloquial phrase, essentially analogous to saying "it is more likely that" Which pointlessly creates a redundancy which is already in and of itself a redundancy in "people biased against religion are biased against religion" by stating that it, as something factual to the point of redundancy, it is "likely." Again, there was no point in that part. It contributed nothing to what you were saying, which was simply stating the obvious anyway. Woosh --- KhanofKhans, KhanJohnson, Saloonist, Basileos <cite>Callixtus posted [p:885677486] in How religi... [t:75720893]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote>Everyone want to speculate about all sorts of crazy reasons why this correlation might exist, but very few have considered a rather simple one: belief in God is a force for moral good.</quote> There's a reason very few have considered that... it is asinine.</quote> No, more like people that are biased against religious belief are biased against religious belief. Hardly surprising.</quote> "No, more like" makes absolutely no sense whatsoever in context. I have no idea what you are trying to say. The rest of your post however makes perfect sense and is completely logical, though it goes without saying. Overall, I'm not sure if there is a point that you are trying to make or not.</quote> more like is just a colloquial phrase, essentially analogous to saying "it is more likely that"</quote> Which pointlessly creates a redundancy which is already in and of itself a redundancy in "people biased against religion are biased against religion" by stating that it, as something factual to the point of redundancy, it is "likely." Again, there was no point in that part. It contributed nothing to what you were saying, which was simply stating the obvious anyway.</quote> Woosh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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