Current Events > white privilege does not mean all white people are better off than everyone else

(+) Yeah! (+)

jfc

it just means on average white people have less hardships (usually caused by race) than minorities.

You need to educate your base (aka the salty leftists), and not people like me.
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Surely this time the users of CE will react to this thread positively.
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Caution999 posted...

You need to educate your base (aka the salty leftists), and not people like me.

trying to educate people like you is like... staring at your own shit... which is what Admiral does after he eats Taco Bell

AlternativeFAQS posted...

jfc

it just means on average white people have less hardships (usually caused by race) than minorities.

Why would say it's caused by race instead of just correlated with race?
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AlternativeFAQS posted...

Caution999 posted...

You need to educate your base (aka the salty leftists), and not people like me.

trying to educate people like you is like... staring at your own shit... which is what Admiral does after he eats Taco Bell

You really are obsessed with him aren't you?
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Yes it does.
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White privilege is only brought up to attack, dismiss, de-legitimize and create an us vs them mentality against whites.

There is no constructive reason to mentioning it. If you're still whining about white privilege, you chose the wrong hill to die on, the wrong time to fall on your sword.
You want a Trump 2020? This is how you get a Trump 2020.
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Caution999 posted...

AlternativeFAQS posted...

Caution999 posted...

You need to educate your base (aka the salty leftists), and not people like me.

trying to educate people like you is like... staring at your own shit... which is what Admiral does after he eats Taco Bell

You really are obsessed with him aren't you?

The whole situation is just weird man. I don't understand why he'd say that

AlternativeFAQS posted...

Caution999 posted...

You need to educate your base (aka the salty leftists), and not people like me.

trying to educate people like you is like... staring at your own shit... which is what Admiral does after he eats Taco Bell

Wow, still posting this even after users explained the comment to you like you were an 8 year old.

Anyway, you and your minimal education have no business telling people what "white privilege" really means since you don't really understand the concept either.
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White privilege is a made-up concept so Leftists can excuse their racism against white people.
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Gamefaqs needs to do something about these stormfront refugees.
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AlternativeFAQS posted...

jfc

it just means on average white people have less hardships (usually caused by race) than minorities.

Tell that to white people living in Africa.
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it's class privilege. sure racial relations in the past have played a role in that division but it doesn't really matter. People in a better position don't give a shit and they're never going to.

Life is sort of like poker. some people are dealt a better hand but it doesn't really matter, you've got to play the hand you're dealt. And you can win with a shitty hand or lose with a good one.
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Solid Snake07 posted...

it's class privilege. sure racial relations in the past have played a role in that division but it doesn't really matter. People in a better position don't give a shit and they're never going to.

Life is sort of like poker. some people are dealt a better hand but it doesn't really matter, you've got to play the hand you're dealt. And you can win with a shitty hand or lose with a good one.

But it only pains conservatives to say "the person with the good hand has a much better chance of winning the pot."
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The person who stares at shit calling someone an 8 year-old

Hmm

Also I don't think they discussed white privilege when you went to school poopgazer

The original idea of white privilege, as a curse as well as a blessing, has been so perverted at this point by liberals that I try to avoid the term now. But if you look back at the 60s and the origins of the term...

In his work, Allen maintained several points: that the "white race" was invented as a ruling class social control formation in the late seventeenth and early eighteenth century Anglo-American plantation colonies (principally Virginia and Maryland); that central to this process was the ruling-class plantation bourgeoisie conferring "white race" privileges on European-American working people; that these privileges were not only against the interests of African-Americans, they were also "poison," "ruinous," a baited hook, to the class interests of working people; that white supremacy, reinforced by the "white skin privilege," has been as the main retardant of working-class consciousness in the US; and that struggle for radical social change should direct principal efforts at challenging white supremacy and "white skin privileges"

That's the essence of MLK's speech at Selma, though he did not use the term White Privilege.

http://kingencyclopedia.stanford.edu/encyclopedia/documentsentry/doc_address_at_the_conclusion_of_selma_march.1.html

If it may be said of the slavery era that the white man took the world and gave the Negro Jesus, then it may be said of the Reconstruction era that the southern aristocracy took the world and gave the poor white man Jim Crow. (Yes, sir) He gave him Jim Crow. (Uh huh) And when his wrinkled stomach cried out for the food that his empty pockets could not provide, (Yes, sir) he ate Jim Crow, a psychological bird that told him that no matter how bad off he was, at least he was a white man, better than the black man. (Right sir) And he ate Jim Crow. (Uh huh) And when his undernourished children cried out for the necessities that his low wages could not provide, he showed them the Jim Crow signs on the buses and in the stores, on the streets and in the public buildings. (Yes, sir) And his children, too, learned to feed upon Jim Crow, (Speak) their last outpost of psychological oblivion. (Yes, sir)

But in the discourse now it's mainly a way to elide class politics, rather than discuss them. The idea, commonly held now, that white privilege absolves the problems of poor whites, who must atone for it, is the antithesis of what it was meant to be.
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AlternativeFAQS posted...

The person who stares at shit calling someone an 8 year-old

Hmm

Buddy as much as I dislike The Admiral, I agree with him that you're being incredibly juvenile and irrational here.
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AlternativeFAQS posted...

Caution999 posted...

You need to educate your base (aka the salty leftists), and not people like me.

trying to educate people like you is like... staring at your own shit... which is what Admiral does after he eats Taco Bell

To be fair, get bloody stool one time after eating there and you'll always check
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AlternativeFAQS posted...

jfc

it just means on average white people have less hardships (usually caused by race) than minorities.

No.
It means that there are specific hardships that the class of white people don't have to face, meaning that, on average, it's difficult to understand how it feels to be <any minority>.
One such example would be how black people get pulled over for being black. For that reason, whenever there's a police car on the road, a completely innocent black person might feel exposed/threatened/nervous in a way that is difficult or rare for a white person to experience.

In these contexts, a privileged group refers to a group that is exempt from specific hardships endured by an oppressed group. It's not "on average white people have it better". It's "even if a white person has it much much worse in any other sense, they don't have this specific problem".
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gunplagirl posted...

AlternativeFAQS posted...

Caution999 posted...

You need to educate your base (aka the salty leftists), and not people like me.

trying to educate people like you is like... staring at your own shit... which is what Admiral does after he eats Taco Bell

To be fair, get bloody stool one time after eating there and you'll always check

Maybe that's it.

Do you have stomach problems addy?

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

White privilege is only brought up to attack, dismiss, de-legitimize and create an us vs them mentality against whites.

There is no constructive reason to mentioning it. If you're still whining about white privilege

Anarchy saying dumb things for 200, Alex.
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AlternativeFAQS posted...

gunplagirl posted...

AlternativeFAQS posted...

Caution999 posted...

You need to educate your base (aka the salty leftists), and not people like me.

trying to educate people like you is like... staring at your own shit... which is what Admiral does after he eats Taco Bell

To be fair, get bloody stool one time after eating there and you'll always check

Maybe that's it.

Do you have stomach problems addy?

Never seen anyone overcompensate this hard after not understanding a basic insult. You should probably start with remedial reading comprehension before working your way up to lecturing people about a sociology issue you don't understand at all.
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AlternativeFAQS posted...

gunplagirl posted...

AlternativeFAQS posted...

Caution999 posted...

You need to educate your base (aka the salty leftists), and not people like me.

trying to educate people like you is like... staring at your own shit... which is what Admiral does after he eats Taco Bell

To be fair, get bloody stool one time after eating there and you'll always check

Maybe that's it.

Do you have stomach problems addy?

Water is too spicy for addy
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Antifar posted...

But in the discourse now it's mainly a way to elide class politics, rather than discuss them. The idea, commonly held now, that white privilege absolves the problems of poor whites, who must atone for it, is the antithesis of what it was meant to be.

I've read the white blindspot, and I don't necessarily disagree, but saying white privilege is bad for poor white people is p much exactly analogous to saying slavery is bad for poor white people, too
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I mean you really shouldn't be eating taco bell

AlternativeFAQS posted...

I mean you really shouldn't be eating taco bell

It tastes so good for the price
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Balrog0 posted...

but saying white privilege is bad for poor white people is p much exactly analogous to saying slavery is bad for poor white people, too

It was. Obviously they did not have to endure the brutality of chattel slavery, and you cannot compare the existence of free whites and enslaved blacks in the antebellum south, but the presence of a massive unpaid labor force hugely undercut the wages of white workers. And in the Jim Crow south, the continued presence of a black, more exploitable underclass, meant southern whites made less on average than even northern blacks. To this day, it is understood that companies using undocumented labor, or prison labor, undercuts the wages of other workers.
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Antifar posted...

It was.

I didn't say it wasn't, but it's pretty easy to understand why that argument doesn't have much cache
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

White privilege is only brought up to attack, dismiss, de-legitimize and create an us vs them mentality against whites.

Like when white people bring up black on black crime in response to black people lobbying for equal treatment by law enforcement and the criminal justice system in general?
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scar the 1 posted...

AlternativeFAQS posted...

jfc

it just means on average white people have less hardships (usually caused by race) than minorities.

No.
It means that there are specific hardships that the class of white people don't have to face, meaning that, on average, it's difficult to understand how it feels to be .
One such example would be how black people get pulled over for being black. For that reason, whenever there's a police car on the road, a completely innocent black person might feel exposed/threatened/nervous in a way that is difficult or rare for a white person to experience.

In these contexts, a privileged group refers to a group that is exempt from specific hardships endured by an oppressed group. It's not "on average white people have it better". It's "even if a white person has it much much worse in any other sense, they don't have this specific problem".

I've been pulled over for being white. So much for white privilege.

Also, if you think white people can't understand what it's like being a minority, go live in a ghetto for a year as the only white family in a five mile radius.

That's my childhood.
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darkjedilink posted...

I've been pulled over for being white

OH MY GAWDDDD THE TRAGEDY
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And when his wrinkled stomach cried out for the food that his empty pockets could not provide, (Yes, sir) he ate Jim Crow, a psychological bird that told him that no matter how bad off he was, at least he was a white man, better than the black man. (Right sir) And he ate Jim Crow. (Uh huh) And when his undernourished children cried out for the necessities that his low wages could not provide, he showed them the Jim Crow signs on the buses and in the stores, on the streets and in the public buildings.

funny how this also plays into the "still better than hillary" mentality
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darkjedilink posted...

Also, if you think white people can't understand what it's like being a minority, go live in a ghetto for a year as the only white family in a five mile radius.

Very few white people go to live in a ghetto for a year. White people overwhelming tend not to live in areas where they are a minority.
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That_Happened posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

it's class privilege. sure racial relations in the past have played a role in that division but it doesn't really matter. People in a better position don't give a shit and they're never going to.

Life is sort of like poker. some people are dealt a better hand but it doesn't really matter, you've got to play the hand you're dealt. And you can win with a shitty hand or lose with a good one.

But it only pains conservatives to say "the person with the good hand has a much better chance of winning the pot."

Ok? is it a win to get that admission? who gives a shit, play your hand and try to get yours. stop worrying about irrelevant shit like people born into a better position admitting it
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darkjedilink posted...

Also, if you think white people can't understand what it's like being a minority, go live in a ghetto for a year as the only white family in a five mile radius.

I did, and I think it can be an enlightening experience, though I don't think you learned much from it
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Balrog0 posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Also, if you think white people can't understand what it's like being a minority, go live in a ghetto for a year as the only white family in a five mile radius.

I did, and I think it can be an enlightening experience, though I don't think you learned much from it

my favorite thing is when white people tell me about an experience of racism they've had
and it only convinces them to double down on their own racism

it really, really shows who they are
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im white poor and live on welfare

explain to me how i have benefited from white privilege.
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shockthemonkey posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

it's class privilege. sure racial relations in the past have played a role in that division but it doesn't really matter. People in a better position don't give a shit and they're never going to.

Life is sort of like poker. some people are dealt a better hand but it doesn't really matter, you've got to play the hand you're dealt. And you can win with a shitty hand or lose with a good one.

There is class division and privilege but racial privilege exists too. It doesn't guarantee anything to anyone.

explain
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Coolppl Owns posted...

im white poor and live on welfare

explain to me how i have benefited from white privilege.

do you understand what the word "average" means
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Solid Snake07 posted...

That_Happened posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

it's class privilege. sure racial relations in the past have played a role in that division but it doesn't really matter. People in a better position don't give a shit and they're never going to.

Life is sort of like poker. some people are dealt a better hand but it doesn't really matter, you've got to play the hand you're dealt. And you can win with a shitty hand or lose with a good one.

But it only pains conservatives to say "the person with the good hand has a much better chance of winning the pot."

Ok? is it a win to get that admission? who gives a shit, play your hand and try to get yours. stop worrying about irrelevant shit like people born into a better position admitting it.

I don't know if I'd say that's "irrelevant." If everyone thought the way darkjedi thinks, (that poor people made the decision to be poor) then there would be no social programs out there for the impoverished. It's relevant because in order to help people we have to understand how they got to where they are, and that's usually a complex issue.
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FrisbeeDude posted...

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

White privilege is only brought up to attack, dismiss, de-legitimize and create an us vs them mentality against whites.

Like when white people bring up black on black crime in response to black people lobbying for equal treatment by law enforcement and the criminal justice system in general?

Exactly!
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That_Happened posted...

If everyone thought the way darkjedi thinks, (that poor people made the decision to be poor) then there would be no social programs out there for the impoverished

including voluntary social programs, actually
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Coolppl Owns posted...

im white poor and live on welfare

explain to me how i have benefited from white privilege.

Well on the most basic level, your using welfare won't reflect on you negatively because of your race.
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mario2000 posted...

Coolppl Owns posted...

im white poor and live on welfare

explain to me how i have benefited from white privilege.

do you understand what the word "average" means

no im just tired of being told to check my privilege when i have to make a can of spam last for 3 meals
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That_Happened posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

That_Happened posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

it's class privilege. sure racial relations in the past have played a role in that division but it doesn't really matter. People in a better position don't give a shit and they're never going to.

Life is sort of like poker. some people are dealt a better hand but it doesn't really matter, you've got to play the hand you're dealt. And you can win with a shitty hand or lose with a good one.

But it only pains conservatives to say "the person with the good hand has a much better chance of winning the pot."

Ok? is it a win to get that admission? who gives a shit, play your hand and try to get yours. stop worrying about irrelevant shit like people born into a better position admitting it.

I don't know if I'd say that's "irrelevant." If everyone thought the way darkjedi thinks, (that poor people made the decision to be poor) then there would be no social programs out there for the impoverished. It's relevant because in order to help people we have to understand how they got to where they are, and that's usually a complex issue.

you can make an argument for social welfare programs without throwing around easily divisive stuff for political opposition to use like "white privilege".
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