Board 8 > Google censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too

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Vlado
08/29/17 8:04:40 AM
#1:


https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/08/25/pers-a25.html

Globalists are only allowing the part of the left that is useful to them a platform.
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Vlado
08/29/17 8:05:27 AM
#2:


Oh, Ron Paul also got hit:
https://www.rt.com/usa/401240-ron-paul-youtube-demonetization-censorship-advertisers/
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Mr Lasastryke
08/29/17 8:09:12 AM
#3:


why does google equal globalists?
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Peace___Frog
08/29/17 8:17:45 AM
#4:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
why does google equal globalists?

They both start with g, ffs. Can't you read between the lines? You liberals are all the same, can't even decipher obvious clues. No wonder you're doing such a bad job taking over the world.
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Vlado
08/29/17 8:56:44 AM
#5:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
why does google equal globalists?

Because it's obviously one of the global corporations that globalism policies benefit the most?

Also, care to address the issue at hand instead of making pointless posts?
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TheRock1525
08/29/17 9:01:27 AM
#6:


Vlado posted...
Also, care to address the issue at hand instead of making pointless posts?


But enough about you...
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Vlado
08/29/17 9:07:04 AM
#7:


TheRock1525 posted...
Vlado posted...
Also, care to address the issue at hand instead of making pointless posts?


But enough about you...

Vlado posted...
Also, care to address the issue at hand instead of making pointless posts?

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Mr Lasastryke
08/29/17 9:07:45 AM
#8:


Vlado posted...
Because it's obviously one of the global corporations that globalism policies benefit the most?


that doesn't necessarily mean the majority of people working at google are globalists.

Also, care to address the issue at hand instead of making pointless posts?


what do you want me to say about the "issue"?

a company decides for itself what kind of results turn up in its search engine? what a terrible travesty.
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TheRock1525
08/29/17 9:17:42 AM
#9:


You never actually address any issues, Vlado. It's almost endearing at this point.
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Vlado
08/29/17 9:25:41 AM
#10:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
that doesn't necessarily mean the majority of people working at google are globalists.

Who cares about "the majority of people" who work there? It's the ones making these decisions that matter.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
Censorship is great!

OK, I just wasn't sure you thought so before this.
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TheRock1525
08/29/17 9:28:11 AM
#11:


Private companies opting not to host people for whatever reason isn't censorship.
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Vlado
08/29/17 9:29:57 AM
#12:


Yes, it is. Newsflash: Government-imposed censorship is not the only kind of censorship. Anyone who owns a platform is capable of censorship.
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Peace___Frog
08/29/17 9:32:44 AM
#13:


Vlado is the kind of guy who boycotts jrpgs that alter the outfit of underage girls for their western release bc "omg censorship of the artists!!!!"
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TheRock1525
08/29/17 9:34:45 AM
#14:


Vlado posted...
Yes, it is.


Nope.
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TheRock1525
08/29/17 9:36:53 AM
#15:


If someone said "I want to sit on the top of your house and yell obscenities at people walking by" and you said "no" are they allowed to yell "CENSORSHIP!" because that's essentially what you're saying whenever a privately owned company opts to do the same thing.
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Mr Lasastryke
08/29/17 9:37:50 AM
#16:


Vlado posted...
OK, I just wasn't sure you thought so before this.


uh yeah, in certain cases it is.

i should be allowed to "censor" people who post pro-nazi shit on my own private website. seems pretty asinine to have a different stance.
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Mr Lasastryke
08/29/17 9:44:46 AM
#17:


it's funny because vlado is also the kind of guy who would boycott gamespot for hosting a GTA V review that calls the game misogynist.

having access to all different opinions is great! except the ones i don't agree with!
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Vlado
08/29/17 9:46:51 AM
#18:


TheRock1525 posted...
If someone said "I want to sit on the top of your house and yell obscenities at people walking by" and you said "no" are they allowed to yell "CENSORSHIP!" because that's essentially what you're saying whenever a privately owned company opts to do the same thing.

Not an argument. "Your house" is not a large discussion platform.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
i should be allowed to "censor" people who post pro-nazi shit on my own private website. seems pretty asinine to have a different stance.

Didn't know the "world socialist web site" was pro-nazi.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
it's funny because vlado is also the kind of guy who would boycott gamespot for hosting a GTA V review that calls the game misogynist.

having access to all different opinions is great! except the ones i don't agree with!

Can you seriously not tell the difference between someone refusing to use a platform and someone being denied the right to use a platform?
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TheRock1525
08/29/17 9:52:22 AM
#19:


Vlado posted...
Not an argument. "Your house" is not a large discussion platform.


Why not? Depending on location you could see and interact with several people. Even more than a sizable number of websites, too! Why do you think we still have people standing on street corners holding signs for businesses?
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Mr Lasastryke
08/29/17 9:54:51 AM
#20:


Vlado posted...
Didn't know the "world socialist web site" was pro-nazi.


it was an example. the point is that a private website is under no obligation to allow all opinions that exist in the world to be posted there. they can allow whatever the fuck they want.
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Peace___Frog
08/29/17 9:55:20 AM
#21:


So make your own search giant to compete.
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Espeon
08/29/17 10:07:25 AM
#22:


Vlado once again treating globalism like some boogeyman without actually explaining why it's a bad thing.
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velocycloraptor
08/29/17 10:13:20 AM
#23:


its been pretty obvious that google is bad for awhile now

i have switched to using duckduckgo on my browser and phone tbh

if I wasn't so committed to my gmail account I would abandon them entirely
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Espeon
08/29/17 10:31:57 AM
#24:


Really, reading that article, it comes across as whiny conspiracy theorizing from a website that wants to be more relevant than it is. It provides numbers out of context (with no citations) only AFTER they spend several paragraphs lauding themselves for being a voice against capitalism.

Also, a quick google search of "is google censoring" has results from the site on the first page. Wouldn't they be completely blacklisted if Google was really trying to censor them? Especially on a subject "exposing" Google's treachery? This doesn't pass the smell test at all. Even the most basic fact checking would've told you that, Vlado. But as usual, you'd rather be a sheep, blindly following anything that confirms your victim complex.
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tcaz2
08/29/17 10:45:40 AM
#25:


TheRock1525 posted...
Why not? Depending on location you could see and interact with several people. Even more than a sizable number of websites, too! Why do you think we still have people standing on street corners holding signs for businesses?


Okay look, as lol as Vlado is, you can't seriously be making this argument, can you?

You DO realize there is a difference between 'private property' and a 'public service' right? A house isn't a public service. It's not intended for the masses to gather there. Your argument has no basis.
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Jakyl25
08/29/17 10:46:34 AM
#26:


Google is also private property though
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HashtagSEP
08/29/17 10:47:12 AM
#27:


tcaz2 posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
Why not? Depending on location you could see and interact with several people. Even more than a sizable number of websites, too! Why do you think we still have people standing on street corners holding signs for businesses?


Okay look, as lol as Vlado is, you can't seriously be making this argument, can you?

You DO realize there is a difference between 'private property' and a 'public service' right? A house isn't a public service. It's not intended for the masses to gather there. Your argument has no basis.


Google isn't a public service, though.
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HashtagSEP
08/29/17 10:47:31 AM
#28:


Dammit, Jakyl
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Jakyl25
08/29/17 10:48:13 AM
#29:


Well we pincer attacked it
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TheRock1525
08/29/17 10:50:05 AM
#30:


JAKYL'd escapes the wrestling AND politics topic.
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Vlado
08/29/17 10:54:43 AM
#31:


velocycloraptor posted...
its been pretty obvious that google is bad for awhile now

i have switched to using duckduckgo on my browser and phone tbh

if I wasn't so committed to my gmail account I would abandon them entirely

Good man! I am switching to alternatives, too.

HashtagSEP posted...
Google isn't a public service, though.

Yeah, it's not like the public can use it or anything!
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HashtagSEP
08/29/17 11:03:55 AM
#32:


Vlado posted...
Yeah, it's not like the public can use it or anything!


That doesn't make it a public service and you know that

But being intellectually dishonest is kinda your thing
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kevwaffles
08/29/17 11:06:13 AM
#33:


No, McDonald's is definitely a public service too and you know it.
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Mr Lasastryke
08/29/17 11:27:51 AM
#34:


i guess vlado is looking at this from a soviet perspective, which is why he's confused about the whole "public vs. private" thing.
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Vlado
08/29/17 11:33:35 AM
#35:


HashtagSEP posted...
That doesn't make it a public service and you know that

Yes, it does.

In the end, you're literally supporting censorship.

I stand for liberty.

Therefore, everyone here knows I am the one who is right.
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VintageGin
08/29/17 11:34:51 AM
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Espeon
08/29/17 11:37:25 AM
#37:


Vlado posted...
HashtagSEP posted...
That doesn't make it a public service and you know that

Yes, it does.

In the end, you're literally supporting censorship.

I stand for liberty.

Therefore, everyone here knows I am the one who is right.


Weren't you supporting censorship when Russia banned Steven Universe for portraying a healthy, lesbian relationship?

Pretty sure you don't stand for liberty at all.
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HashtagSEP
08/29/17 11:39:43 AM
#38:


Espeon posted...
Vlado posted...
HashtagSEP posted...
That doesn't make it a public service and you know that

Yes, it does.

In the end, you're literally supporting censorship.

I stand for liberty.

Therefore, everyone here knows I am the one who is right.


Weren't you supporting censorship when Russia banned Steven Universe for portraying a healthy, lesbian relationship?

Pretty sure you don't stand for liberty at all.


Yeah, this was definitely a thing

He said it was their right to not show anything they didn't feel right showing
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Jakyl25
08/29/17 11:40:06 AM
#39:


Your mom is a public service
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HashtagSEP
08/29/17 11:41:26 AM
#40:


Jakyl25 posted...
Your mom is a public service


I exist specifically because there was no censorship!

Go liberty!
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Vlado
08/29/17 11:49:32 AM
#41:


Using mental gymnastics will not change the fact that I stand for liberty.

Do explain how and why google censoring anti-globalist sites on both the left and right is the right thing to do.
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VintageGin
08/29/17 11:50:20 AM
#42:


Vlado-san stood silently for a moment, his back turned on the evildoers.

"Yes, it does," Vlado-san said, tightening his fist.

Vlado-san whirled around, an accusatory finger pointed as his green hair blew in the wind.

"In the end, you're literally supporting censorship."

He clenched his fist again, remembering his master's words.

"I stand for liberty. Therefore, everyone here knows I am the one who is right...BAKA!"
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Mr Lasastryke
08/29/17 11:52:45 AM
#43:


Vlado posted...
Using mental gymnastics will not change the fact that I stand for liberty.


using words properly isn't "using mental gymnastics."
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HashtagSEP
08/29/17 11:54:08 AM
#44:


Vlado posted...
Using mental gymnastics will not change the fact that I stand for liberty.

Do explain how and why google censoring anti-globalist sites on both the left and right is the right thing to do.


Can I ask you to please explain why you said censorship of a television show was okay before, then?
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Espeon
08/29/17 11:54:38 AM
#45:


Vlado posted...
Using mental gymnastics will not change the fact that I stand for liberty.

Do explain how and why google censoring anti-globalist sites on both the left and right is the right thing to do.


Prove that they're doing it, first and foremost. An unsourced complaint letter from a website I've never even heard of before (and you'd think you would've cited them before, since they're so anti-globalist) is not proof of anything.

Second, you do not get to claim you're a paragon of liberty (playing into your pseudo-intellectual superiority complex) when we have actual evidence of you speaking in favor of censorship.
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CelesMyUserName
08/29/17 11:56:27 AM
#46:


Vlado posted...
Yeah, it's not like the public can use it or anything!

this might be the dumbest thing you've said
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Vlado
08/29/17 12:00:12 PM
#47:


HashtagSEP posted...
Can I ask you to please explain why you said censorship of a television show was okay before, then?

Answer my question, and I'll answer yours.
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Peace___Frog
08/29/17 12:01:19 PM
#48:


Vlado posted...
Answer my question, and I'll answer yours.

Vloldo
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Espeon
08/29/17 12:03:06 PM
#49:


Vlado posted...
HashtagSEP posted...
Vlado posted...
Using mental gymnastics will not change the fact that I stand for liberty.

Do explain how and why google censoring anti-globalist sites on both the left and right is the right thing to do.


Can I ask you to please explain why you said censorship of a television show was okay before, then?

Answer my question, and I'll answer yours.


You didn't actually ASK a question.
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Jakyl25
08/29/17 12:03:12 PM
#50:


It doesn't matter if it's the "right thing to do." They're totally within their rights. You are free to seek alternatives. Maybe even find them via Google search!
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