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Bio1590
08/27/17 8:30:03 PM
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And by "planning for violence" it means "planning to commit violent acts"

http://fortune.com/2017/08/26/charlottesville-violence-leaked-chats/

Well before a white nationalist “Unite the Right” demonstration turned deadly in Charlottesville this month, attendees were planning for violence, according to leaked online chats. In private chat channels, they shared advice on weaponry and tactics, including repeatedly broaching the idea of driving vehicles through opposition crowds. After the vehicular attack which killed counterprotestor Heather Heyer, users of the channel celebrated the event.

The discussions took place on a private channel created using Discord, a service primarily intended for gamers. Hundreds of screenshots of the exchanges were released this week by Unicorn Riot, a left-wing activist group, which said they were shared by an anonymous source. The records also included audio recordings of planning meetings.

While much of the discussion centered on flags, chants, and other forms of speech, the leaked exchanges also included advice on weapon construction. “You want something designed for longitudinal stress,” wrote one poster. “[Three] whacks and that thing is breaking.” Other topics included body armor and shield design.

Users also shared memes alluding to using vehicles against opponents.

There’s no indication that James Alex Fields, the driver of the car that killed Heyer and injured more than a dozen others, was part of the Discord discussion, but his act was celebrated and defended by users, including some who edited images of the carnage into memes that were intended to be humorous.

Organizers of the event told Wired that the leaked chats appeared authentic, but emphasized that they had repeatedly urged nonviolence. Nonetheless, a lawyer for two women injured in Charlottesville said that the leaked chats could form “the crux of the case” because they demonstrated a desire for violence.

The records could also have implications for future efforts to organize white supremacist events. While the First Amendment protects the right to speech and assembly for even the most heinous groups and ideas, it does not protect speech if it calls for and is likely to lead to “imminent lawless action.” According to legal experts speaking to Wired, signs of “preparation for illegal activity” could make it more likely that future events organized by related groups could be legally restricted.

Following the protest and attack, Discord suspended the group's private chat channel.

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Blue_Inigo
08/27/17 8:31:00 PM
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But plenty of good people!
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mattnd2007
08/27/17 8:31:07 PM
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surprising absolutely no one
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Coolppl Owns
08/27/17 8:32:53 PM
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Fake news

Protect nazis', neo nazis', and white nationalists' rights to speak about their desire to eradicate minorities at all costs
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The Admiral
08/27/17 8:33:08 PM
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If there is actual evidence of terror plots, those people should be arrested and charged. That is assuming these "leaked online chats" are actually credible.
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RebelElite791
08/27/17 8:34:20 PM
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The Admiral posted...
If there is actual evidence of terror plots, those people should be arrested and charged. That is assuming these "leaked online chats" are actually credible.

The "you hate it because you think Nazis are evil and don't want to face up to history" Admiral
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The Admiral
08/27/17 8:35:10 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
The Admiral posted...
If there is actual evidence of terror plots, those people should be arrested and charged. That is assuming these "leaked online chats" are actually credible.

The "you hate it because you think Nazis are evil and don't want to face up to history" Admiral


This is the kind of ignorance I deal with on CE even when I make a completely reasonable post.
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CADE FOSTER
08/27/17 8:35:17 PM
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CelestialVoices
08/27/17 8:37:20 PM
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HmmmMMMMmmmmmm
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That_Happened
08/27/17 8:41:08 PM
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The Admiral posted...
If there is actual evidence of terror plots, those people should be arrested and charged. That is assuming these "leaked online chats" are actually credible.


The Admiral posted...
This is the kind of ignorance I deal with on CE even when I make a completely reasonable post.


This post was completely reasonable. You're right.

BUT it's strange to see someone so reasonably try to strategically remove the radical, crazy individuals from a movement like this, with surgeon-like precision...when if the movement was BLM or Antifa, or if it involved a liberal arts college, he would say this was indicative of the motives of the entire group, and passive-aggressively use the word "regressives" in the process.
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AlternativeFAQS
08/27/17 8:45:50 PM
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@RebelElite791 im not sure if you know this but Admiral eats taco bell and then stares at his shit afterwards.
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The Admiral
08/27/17 8:47:53 PM
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AlternativeFAQS posted...
@RebelElite791 im not sure if you know this but Admiral eats taco bell and then stares at his shit afterwards.


FYI, this is the post that Mr. Dimbulb here is still confused by:
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75709114/885476067
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Burgess
08/27/17 8:49:22 PM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
how was admiral a mod again sheesh


Hey man people are starting to realize that there's klan members in the police force too. Highest reaches of power.
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RebelElite791
08/27/17 8:49:27 PM
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AlternativeFAQS posted...
@RebelElite791 im not sure if you know this but Admiral eats taco bell and then stares at his shit afterwards.

lmfao
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That_Happened
08/27/17 8:50:12 PM
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Burgess posted...
CADE FOSTER posted...
how was admiral a mod again sheesh


Hey man people are starting to realize that there's klan members in the police force too. Highest reaches of power.

Haha!
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AlternativeFAQS
08/27/17 8:50:42 PM
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im still not quite sure why you stare at your shit? are you looking for something?
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Bio1590
08/27/17 8:51:05 PM
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That_Happened posted...
Burgess posted...
CADE FOSTER posted...
how was admiral a mod again sheesh


Hey man people are starting to realize that there's klan members in the police force too. Highest reaches of power.

Haha!

Holy shit absolutely amazing
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Burgess
08/27/17 8:51:11 PM
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Oh like you don't check your shit before you flush.
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DreadedWave
08/27/17 8:51:59 PM
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The Admiral
08/27/17 8:52:23 PM
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AlternativeFAQS posted...
im still not quite sure why you stare at your shit? are you looking for something?


Imagine not even being smart enough to grasp an insult. The fact that you don't understand that post -- even when someone explained it to you in that topic -- is so much more hilarious than anything I could have ever said.
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The Great Muta 22
08/27/17 8:55:22 PM
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The Admiral posted...
If there is actual evidence of terror plots, those people should be arrested and charged. That is assuming these "leaked online chats" are actually credible.


...Do you think Unicorn Riot made up the chat logs they got from Discord, or something? Like, I've been following this since they started releasing them and you can go through slide by slide and see them discussing it. Also talking about the planning of showing up in helmets and with makeshift weapons. Did you actually bother to read the article or follow the links or did you just respond with your typical trolling response?
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Blue_Inigo
08/27/17 8:55:49 PM
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Burgess posted...
CADE FOSTER posted...
how was admiral a mod again sheesh


Hey man people are starting to realize that there's klan members in the police force too. Highest reaches of power.

T7QbYIg
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AlternativeFAQS
08/27/17 8:57:17 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Holy shit absolutely amazing

care. admiral is posting
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Ruvan22
08/27/17 8:59:04 PM
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The Admiral posted...
If there is actual evidence of terror plots, those people should be arrested and charged. That is assuming these "leaked online chats" are actually credible.


What gives you evidence to believe they aren't credible, when the organizers said they appeared authentic?
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The Admiral
08/27/17 8:59:09 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
The Admiral posted...
If there is actual evidence of terror plots, those people should be arrested and charged. That is assuming these "leaked online chats" are actually credible.


...Do you think Unicorn Riot made up the chat logs they got from Discord, or something? Like, I've been following this since they started releasing them and you can go through slide by slide and see them discussing it. Also talking about the planning of showing up in helmets and with makeshift weapons. Did you actually bother to read the article or follow the links or did you just respond with your typical trolling response?


I have no idea, hence why I said assuming. However, when I see this:

Hundreds of screenshots of the exchanges were released this week by Unicorn Riot, a left-wing activist group, which said they were shared by an anonymous source.


I do not immediately assume credibility at face value.
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AlternativeFAQS
08/27/17 8:59:15 PM
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The Admiral posted...
AlternativeFAQS posted...
im still not quite sure why you stare at your shit? are you looking for something?


Imagine not even being smart enough to grasp an insult. The fact that you don't understand that post -- even when someone explained it to you in that topic -- is so much more hilarious than anything I could have ever said.


I understand the insult. The question still stands... what would bring you to stare at your shit though?
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The Admiral
08/27/17 8:59:53 PM
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AlternativeFAQS posted...
The Admiral posted...
AlternativeFAQS posted...
im still not quite sure why you stare at your shit? are you looking for something?


Imagine not even being smart enough to grasp an insult. The fact that you don't understand that post -- even when someone explained it to you in that topic -- is so much more hilarious than anything I could have ever said.


I understand the insult. The question still stands... what would bring you to stare at your shit though?


You clearly didn't.
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Bio1590
08/27/17 9:00:49 PM
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The Admiral posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
The Admiral posted...
If there is actual evidence of terror plots, those people should be arrested and charged. That is assuming these "leaked online chats" are actually credible.


...Do you think Unicorn Riot made up the chat logs they got from Discord, or something? Like, I've been following this since they started releasing them and you can go through slide by slide and see them discussing it. Also talking about the planning of showing up in helmets and with makeshift weapons. Did you actually bother to read the article or follow the links or did you just respond with your typical trolling response?


I have no idea, hence why I said assuming. However, when I see this:

Hundreds of screenshots of the exchanges were released this week by Unicorn Riot, a left-wing activist group, which said they were shared by an anonymous source.


I do not immediately assume credibility at face value.

I take it that's obviously where you stopped reading because it was enough to make up your mind on the issue.
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AlternativeFAQS
08/27/17 9:01:16 PM
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ok poop gazer dont tell me. fuckin weirdo
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The Admiral
08/27/17 9:01:36 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
The Admiral posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
The Admiral posted...
If there is actual evidence of terror plots, those people should be arrested and charged. That is assuming these "leaked online chats" are actually credible.


...Do you think Unicorn Riot made up the chat logs they got from Discord, or something? Like, I've been following this since they started releasing them and you can go through slide by slide and see them discussing it. Also talking about the planning of showing up in helmets and with makeshift weapons. Did you actually bother to read the article or follow the links or did you just respond with your typical trolling response?


I have no idea, hence why I said assuming. However, when I see this:

Hundreds of screenshots of the exchanges were released this week by Unicorn Riot, a left-wing activist group, which said they were shared by an anonymous source.


I do not immediately assume credibility at face value.

I take it that's obviously where you stopped reading because it was enough to make up your mind on the issue.


In what post did I say I made up my mind?
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Dark_SilverX
08/27/17 9:03:30 PM
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There are some good Klansmen. I seen one saving a kitten out of a tree.
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Burgess
08/27/17 9:05:33 PM
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What color was the kitten.
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Delirious_Beard
08/27/17 9:06:23 PM
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i am just so surprised by this
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The Great Muta 22
08/27/17 9:08:51 PM
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"Good people on both sides:"

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RE_expert44
08/27/17 9:09:37 PM
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The Admiral posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
The Admiral posted...
If there is actual evidence of terror plots, those people should be arrested and charged. That is assuming these "leaked online chats" are actually credible.

The "you hate it because you think Nazis are evil and don't want to face up to history" Admiral


This is the kind of ignorance I deal with on CE even when I make a completely reasonable post.

Dude it's rebel. It's best to just ignore him for now
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The Great Muta 22
08/27/17 9:12:23 PM
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The Great Muta 22
08/27/17 9:33:34 PM
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ImAMarvel posted...
where are you getting these?


https://www.unicornriot.ninja/2017/data-release-unite-right-planning-chats-demonstrate-violent-intent/

I clicked off of it but they have links to the Discord chat logs where you can see the discussion and planning of the event, including fundraising efforts and coordination on rides, signs, chants, flags, etc. Don't let anyone tell you these fucks didn't know exactly what was going to happen at this rally
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Nomadic View
08/27/17 9:36:16 PM
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The Admiral posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
The Admiral posted...
If there is actual evidence of terror plots, those people should be arrested and charged. That is assuming these "leaked online chats" are actually credible.

The "you hate it because you think Nazis are evil and don't want to face up to history" Admiral


This is the kind of ignorance I deal with on CE even when I make a completely reasonable post.


It's Rebel. No one listens to him anyway.
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The Admiral
08/27/17 9:51:00 PM
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The Great Muta 22
08/27/17 9:54:57 PM
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That_Happened
08/27/17 10:02:55 PM
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The Admiral posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
"On both sides"


https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/black-clad-anarchists-storm-berkeley-rally-assaulting-5/2017/08/27/b407272a-8b88-11e7-9c53-6a169beb0953_story.html

Yes, on "both sides."

I didn't know that "both sides" Trump was referring to involved rallies from the future that hadn't occurred yet. That guy is full of surprises.
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Phantom_Nook
08/27/17 10:05:16 PM
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there were sure fine people on both sides.
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Lordsai
08/27/17 10:10:34 PM
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The Admiral posted...
If there is actual evidence of terror plots, those people should be arrested and charged. That is assuming these "leaked online chats" are actually credible.
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SSJGrimReaper
08/27/17 10:15:12 PM
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someone screenshot that post of Burgess destroying Admiral for future use
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Illuminoius
08/27/17 10:28:24 PM
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charlottesville munchers
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lilJoe457
08/27/17 10:37:16 PM
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Sounds like an infiltration to create a problem that didn't exist. There isn't some huge number of neo Nazis. It's a fringe number.


It's just funny how they brand dissenting news as alt right and now these people as alt right. So then it basically becomes anything we don't like we can just call it alt right. Or misrepresent people's views by throwing out Nazi without any evidence or proof.

Then they say Trump to disavow because they claim he helps them even though he doesn't. Its funny cause I seem to see that when a Muslim terrorist do some shit we don't ask all Muslim people to disavow them. They use Islam as a prop for their violence. Just as white supremacists use Trump as one to no fault of his own no matter how much the media tries to 1984 you into thinking it. If you see everything he's said in context then you'd know.

But we shouldn't and don't ask Muslim people to disavow things they clearly don't have anything to do with despite people getting inspiration from the thing they believe in to kill people.

If you think all of Trump's voting base is racist then maybe you're just the racist one. Because Obama wouldn't get elected without a portion of those people voting for him.
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RebelElite791
08/27/17 11:01:09 PM
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Yaaaaas slay Burgess

RE_expert44 posted...
The Admiral posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
The Admiral posted...
If there is actual evidence of terror plots, those people should be arrested and charged. That is assuming these "leaked online chats" are actually credible.

The "you hate it because you think Nazis are evil and don't want to face up to history" Admiral


This is the kind of ignorance I deal with on CE even when I make a completely reasonable post.

Dude it's rebel. It's best to just ignore him for now

Literally a direct quote mon frere
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