Poll of the Day > This Southern CONSERVATIVE User has some real beef with Gamefaqs MODS!!!

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bwahaha, this is the EXACT thing the mods and gamefaqs staff DON'T want. nowadays, anyone with a camera and a voice can get youtube/twitter famous. get enough people following you and you can take down obscure websites like gamefaqs no problem

I didn't watch the video b/c I can't be bothered but I am pleased someone is fighting back, and there's nothing the mods can do about it, damn. I feel sorry for you guys, man, you can't just 0-3 karma loss your way out of this one huh
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dioxxys posted...

Lil69Leo posted...

So no actual proof. Right wing comments who hate illegals giving their opinions while police officers say the areas are vulnerable. Basically you're a bigot and full of shit.

If simply posting links with news sources about dangerous areas makes me a bigot, you are a moron.

Lil69Leo posted...

dioxxys posted...

You are such a contrarian, are you really denying that no-go zones exist?

How about you post credible proof of them existing.

Lil69Leo posted...

while police officers say the areas are vulnerable

You just acknowledged they exist, I have done my job I set out to do.

/gg

Posting shit links to ring wing stories as your proof that illegals are bad is indeed bigotry. Literally trying to make people think illegals are bad people. People who are fleeing a doctator who uses chemical weapons doesn't make people bad.

Lil69Leo posted...

dioxxys posted...

Lil69Leo posted...

So no actual proof. Right wing comments who hate illegals giving their opinions while police officers say the areas are vulnerable. Basically you're a bigot and full of shit.

If simply posting links with news sources about dangerous areas makes me a bigot, you are a moron.

Lil69Leo posted...

dioxxys posted...

You are such a contrarian, are you really denying that no-go zones exist?

How about you post credible proof of them existing.

Lil69Leo posted...

while police officers say the areas are vulnerable

You just acknowledged they exist, I have done my job I set out to do.

/gg

Posting shit links to ring wing stories as your proof that illegals are bad is indeed bigotry. Literally trying to make people think illegals are bad people. People who are fleeing a doctator who uses chemical weapons doesn't make people bad.

Criminals are bad people.
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faramir77 posted...

Nenjii posted...

faramir77 posted...

he mad lol

Prove it with evidence. Stating factual arguments on youtube is not a consensus for "being mad", but simply stating facts. Prove me wrong. Or are you mad you cannot?

take a brush to that fuzz you are madded af

Still waiting. Sounds like you are more "madded" than me for speaking up against a website off of their website, and there's nothing they can do about it.

I will reiterate, why have forum rules, if they can delete your karma by not breaking the rules, and gamefaqs links EULA and hate speech when it has nothing to do with what was said, and they obviously know nothing of what a "hate speech" is.

Only one mad here is you, you're moving the goal post of the topic of discussion because you have no valid response:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts

Moving the goalposts is an informal fallacy in which evidence presented in response to a specific claim is dismissed and some other (often greater) evidence is demanded. That is, after an attempt has been made to score a goal, the goalposts are moved to exclude the attempt.

I'd say nice try, but it wasn't. Try arguing the reason you are here factually, which is the videos I made, and stop being a baby. Prove to me that something I said was wrong.
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Lil69Leo posted...

dioxxys posted...

Lil69Leo posted...

So no actual proof. Right wing comments who hate illegals giving their opinions while police officers say the areas are vulnerable. Basically you're a bigot and full of shit.

If simply posting links with news sources about dangerous areas makes me a bigot, you are a moron.

Lil69Leo posted...

dioxxys posted...

You are such a contrarian, are you really denying that no-go zones exist?

How about you post credible proof of them existing.

Lil69Leo posted...

while police officers say the areas are vulnerable

You just acknowledged they exist, I have done my job I set out to do.

/gg

Posting shit links to ring wing stories as your proof that illegals are bad is indeed bigotry. Literally trying to make people think illegals are bad people. People who are fleeing a doctator who uses chemical weapons doesn't make people bad.

Oh but when rights do it to CNN, the rights are still wrong. Bigotry at its finest. The irony of your post. I guess this other news network is also lying about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHR5GHkd3Es

Also I recommend you to look at the recommended and next up feed, on the far right of the video page that also shows a whole list of videos speaking about no-go zones, by multiple people and news networks. Many of the people who actually LIVE there. But I guess they are all lying too right? The video thumbnail picture speaks for itself. I guess people are out there making Sharia Law no control zones signs and flyers, because it isn't happening and it's a hoax amirite?
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Lil69Leo posted...

Literally trying to make people think illegals are bad people. People who are fleeing a doctator who uses chemical weapons doesn't make people bad.

That is not against the forum rules and is not a bannable/moddable offense. Hate speech is the moddable offense:

Hate speech -

speech that attacks, threatens, or insults a person or group on the basis of national origin, ethnicity, color, religion, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, or disability.

Immigrants come from everywhere, thus I am not hate speeching anyone. Show me a forum rule that is on context with the response I made. I'll give you a hint: You will not find one.
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We need the Judges (as in Dredd).
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Nenjii posted...

Blasted_Fury posted...

that guy is super upset jfc

lmao, in his 13 minute video, he was modded for save editing.

yeah that's moddable here lmao

Nope, you should read the EULA. He linked it. Save editing only applies to the PSNetwork EULA. FFX came out before PSN came out, and FFX does not require a PSN EULA agreement to play.

Thanks for the publicity though. Someone had an opinion, how dare they.

it doesn't matter dude, it's not allowed here and they make it pretty clear that it isn't. so do the game and console manufacturers.
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Blasted_Fury posted...

Nenjii posted...

Blasted_Fury posted...

that guy is super upset jfc

lmao, in his 13 minute video, he was modded for save editing.

yeah that's moddable here lmao

Nope, you should read the EULA. He linked it. Save editing only applies to the PSNetwork EULA. FFX came out before PSN came out, and FFX does not require a PSN EULA agreement to play.

Thanks for the publicity though. Someone had an opinion, how dare they.

it doesn't matter dude, it's not allowed here

False. This was the consensus of why I was modded:

Illegal Activities
"Illegal" is a bit of a misnomer, as laws vary by region. Here's a sample of what we actually disallow on these boards:

Don't discuss pirated software, music, movies, TV shows, or any other media - where to get them, or that you've been playing or watching them. Don't ask for help with how to play a pirated game.

Don't discuss ownership of or post leaked media from a game before its street release date. It does not matter where you obtained your copy of the game, it cannot be discussed here until the game is released.

Don't discuss how to cheat in competitive online games. You can talk about someone who is cheating or provide examples, but don't talk about how to actually do it, as that makes the problem worse.

Don't discuss your illegal or recreational drug use. Talking about the topic in general is okay, but not your own usage, methods, creation, or trade in them.

An FFX edited save is not "pirated" and even the mod said it wasn't in his response, rewatch the video, it was in the beginning. So what rule, according to you, am I breaking that the mod listed?

The game console manufacturers list piracy as illegal. Editing offline saves is not piracy. Piracy is theft of a product, or editing the DISC itself to reproduce the product at a cost sales loss to the manufacturer. Or editing the disc and distributing it for free, again at a cost sales loss to the manufacturer. It has absolutely nothing to do with a save that is on your playstation hard drive that is your property, and a save that never leaves your property.
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it doesn't matter dude, talking about editing your saves here is not allowed.

besides that, that's only a sample list of what isn't allowed, it even straight says so

console and game tos say that editing of the software is forbidden. what do you think save editing is?

lmao
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Blasted_Fury posted...

console and game tos say that editing of the software is forbidden. what do you think save editing is?

Editing the disc. You should really read their ToS because you do not understand them. Save editing discussion here is not illegal or against the gamefaqs ToS, or emulator discussion and save state hacking guides would not be listed. Save state hacking is the exact same thing as FFXED.

Way to backpeddle away form your original argument. You were wrong, but now you're backpeddling more.
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you can't talk about emulators here, either. as for guides, they aren't part of the boards so they don't have the same rules applied to them.

save editing is not allowed here, period, dude
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Nenjii posted...

Blasted_Fury posted...

console and game tos say that editing of the software is forbidden. what do you think save editing is?

Editing the disc. You should really read their ToS because you do not understand them. Save editing discussion here is not illegal or against the gamefaqs ToS, or emulator discussion and save state hacking guides would not be listed. Save state hacking is the exact same thing as FFXED.

Way to backpeddle away form your original argument. You were wrong, but now you're backpeddling more.

yeah I once discussed a save state trick you could use to cheat in the original legend of zelda. didn't get modded just made fun of by everyone in the topic.
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Blasted_Fury posted...

you can't talk about emulators here, either. as for guides, they aren't part of the boards so they don't have the same rules applied to them.

save editing is not allowed here, period, dude

https://www.gamefaqs.com/features/tou

Show me where.
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Nenjii posted...

faramir77 posted...

Nenjii posted...

faramir77 posted...

he mad lol

Prove it with evidence. Stating factual arguments on youtube is not a consensus for "being mad", but simply stating facts. Prove me wrong. Or are you mad you cannot?

take a brush to that fuzz you are madded af

Still waiting.

Cacciato posted...

faramir77 posted...

he mad lol

Clearly. Imagine devoting that much of your time to this website that you had to make YouTube videos bitching about it.

Not only making the videos, but the fact those videos are approx 10+ minutes long.

10+ minutes of whining...

On top of that, all the whining he's doing in this topic trying to defend himself.
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Far-Queue posted...

Nenjii posted...

faramir77 posted...

Nenjii posted...

faramir77 posted...

he mad lol

Prove it with evidence. Stating factual arguments on youtube is not a consensus for "being mad", but simply stating facts. Prove me wrong. Or are you mad you cannot?

take a brush to that fuzz you are madded af

Still waiting.

Cacciato posted...

faramir77 posted...

he mad lol

Clearly. Imagine devoting that much of your time to this website that you had to make YouTube videos bitching about it.

Not only making the videos, but the fact those videos are approx 10+ minutes long.

10+ minutes of whining...

On top of that, all the whining he's doing in this topic trying to defend himself.

Facts =/= whining. If I am wrong, please provide evidence besides moving the goal post away from the topic.
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Nenjii posted...

Blasted_Fury posted...

you can't talk about emulators here, either. as for guides, they aren't part of the boards so they don't have the same rules applied to them.

save editing is not allowed here, period, dude

https://www.gamefaqs.com/features/tou

Show me where.

just look at your mod history lol

you can use any argument you want, the fact is is that you're going to get modded for illegal activities if you talk about how to save edit.
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Blasted_Fury posted...

Nenjii posted...

Blasted_Fury posted...

you can't talk about emulators here, either. as for guides, they aren't part of the boards so they don't have the same rules applied to them.

save editing is not allowed here, period, dude

https://www.gamefaqs.com/features/tou

Show me where.

just look at your mod history lol

you can use any argument you want, the fact is is that you're going to get modded for illegal activities if you talk about how to save edit.

I am waiting for you to show me where save editing on the TOU I linked is. I've read it, don't see it. What exactly are you trying to prove? Save editing is not against their TOU, again, if it is, SHOW ME WHERE please. Or stop replying.
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if it's not against their tou, then explain to me how to save edit.

surely you will, since clearly it's allowed here.
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yeah, I wanna know how to edit my ffx save too
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Blasted_Fury posted...

if it's not against their tou, then explain to me how to save edit.

surely you will, since clearly it's allowed here.

False logic and dichotomy. The reason for the post is because they mod for things that are perfectly following their TOU. So you want me to prove that they mod for things that aren't against their TOU by explaining save editing, which isn't against their TOU to get modded? That would only prove me correct.

Moving the goal post. Your original argument was save editing discussion is against their TOU. I linked and asked you to show me. You didn't.
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then tell me how to edit my save then
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helIy posted...

then tell me how to edit my save then

I don't have to, the video already has that proof. It also has the proof it isn't piracy, the mod even said such. So I ask for the 10th, time, show me where I committed a moddable offense according to their TOU.
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man, there must be a reason why you won't just tell me how to do it

I wonder just what, exactly, that reason is
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helIy posted...

man, there must be a reason why you won't just tell me how to do it

I wonder just what, exactly, that reason is

Maybe the same reason you won't tell me. Because you know they will mod for it, with no grounds of it going against their TOU.

For the 11th time, show me where.

https://www.gamefaqs.com/features/tou
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I'll show you, as soon as you explain to me how to get my ps2 save onto my computer
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helIy posted...

I'll show you, as soon as you explain to me how to get my ps2 save onto my computer

no you won't because its not in their just read the thing myself
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then if it's not in there, explain how to edit a save

why don't you have faith in your claim
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helIy posted...

then if it's not I'm there, explain how to edit a save

me? I wouldn't know I don't do things with games that the creators didn't intend for me to do. unless its a glitch or exploit they can't be bothered to fix
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Just ignore him. He's trolling. He is asking for something my video already proves just to try to get someone modded again, only proving my point correct further, when the video already proves it correct in conjunction with their TOU.
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Nenjii posted...

Just ignore him. He's trolling. He is asking for something my video already proves just to try to get someone modded again, only proving my point correct.

yeah mods on this site do seem rather sporadic on what they mod you over, I count myself lucky i've only been modded once. (honestly didn't know the word I was using was considered offensive, and was not using it an offensive matter to begin with)
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I mean, there has to be a reason why you won't just say how to do it

otherwise I can't think of a reason why you wouldn't. your video doesn't help either, since I don't know what that program is or how to use it. I don't even know how to connect my. ps2 hard drive to my computer.

you can pm it to me if you want to.
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I am not replying again because anyone who is against me has yet to answer any of my questions and prove the video false in conjunction with their TOU, and in conjunction with "hate speech", which neither I am guilty of, and if I am, link me a dictionary definition of hate speech, and explain why I am guilty logically and factually, or don't waste my time with moving the goalpost away from the topic of discussion.

The only response I get is "they can do whatever, it's their website". But if this was the case, then they would mod everyone and not follow their own rules as closely as they can.

Nor would being able to do "anything they wanted" be legitimate, because if that were the case, they would have no rules regardless, as there would be no reason to have a TOU, if there were no rules. A mod that disliked certain users could effectively "stalk" a board user and karma dump him on no grounds, while at the same time breaking their own TOU which demeans stalking and harassment.

But effectively the mods are already breaking their own TOU by doing these things to users not breaking their rules anyways, so honestly there's nothing to discuss.

Also, if the mod modded me because "they can do whatever they want", the mod would have linked the reason for modding being what the TOU says at the top, which is:

We reserve the right to remove, at any time and without notice, any content from the Service.

But instead, they did not link such in their mod, they linked I broke 2 different rules which was the basis for their removing my posts, and the foundation of their responses. 2 rules which I did not break.

And the reason for the fascism argument is because the very definition of fascism is in their TOU at the very top:

We reserve the right to remove, at any time and without notice, any content from the Service. << Thus why do they have ANY listed other rules, if THIS single rule covers ALL the other rules, and more.

Fascism:

1. (sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

2. (sometimes initial capital letter) the philosophy, principles, or methods of fascism.

3. (initial capital letter) a political movement that employs the principles and methods of fascism, especially the one established by Mussolini in Italy 1922%u201343.
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knivesX2004 posted...

GameFAQs isn't a govt run website.
It can do whatever the fuck it wants.
You have no rights here.

I post this every time and I swear to Thor I get ignored every single time.

Nenjii posted...

Facts =/= whining. If I am wrong, please provide evidence besides moving the goal post away from the topic.

The fuck do facts have to do with whether or not you're whining?

Whining is whining lol

And you're doing an awful lot of it.
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Far-Queue posted...

Nenjii posted...

Facts =/= whining. If I am wrong, please provide evidence besides moving the goal post away from the topic.

The fuck do facts have to do with whether or not you're whining?

Whining is whining lol

And you're doing an awful lot of it.

Moving the goalpost yet again. You cannot disprove anything stated, so you try to change the subject matter into something else. I'd say nice try but it wasn't. About 10 people in here beat you to that. Prove with facts I am wrong and link me the TOU that states I broke a rule, which the mods claimed.

You would be the one whining because you have to change the subject in an attempt to prove something that the original topic was not about. I will be waiting for a logical response.

What does facts have to do with whining. That's cute. So someone stating facts is whining according to you.

"The grass is green"

I am whining about the grass being green. Look guyz.
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Calling an entire group terrorist is obvious hate speech and you were modded appropriately. It demoralizes and minimizes the plight of these people and you have serious ethical and moral issues if you think you are correct.

It seems that GameFAQs needs to clarify/make more apparant in its own ToU what is and what isn't allowed on their boards regarding topics of game modification.
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Veemon_X posted...

It seems that GameFAQs needs to clarify/make more apparant in its own ToU what is and what isn't allowed on their boards regarding topics of game modification.

Agreed. It's far too subjective, and things like "appropriate workplace discussion" are a bullshit description when they allow the language and subject matter they do, then you get modded because somebody disagrees with you hard and a touchy mod agrees.
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

Veemon_X posted...

It seems that GameFAQs needs to clarify/make more apparant in its own ToU what is and what isn't allowed on their boards regarding topics of game modification.

Agreed. It's far too subjective, and things like "appropriate workplace discussion" are a bullshit description when they allow the language and subject matter they do, then you get modded because somebody disagrees with you hard and a touchy mod agrees.

yeah the bit about workplace appropriate kills me. perhaps you shouldn't be on gamefaqs while at work?
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Gamerz4Justice posted...

Calling an entire group terrorist is obvious hate speech and you were modded appropriately. It demoralizes and minimizes the plight of these people and you have serious ethical and moral issues if you think you are correct.

I did not call a whole group anything. A hate speech is against a specific nationality, culture, or ethnicity, and immigrants are not a specific one. And I am sure these immigrants without jobs walking 400 miles into Euro territory are reading gamefaqs FFX boards with their laptops while walking over the borders of 8 different countries to get there.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

TheCyborgNinja posted...

Veemon_X posted...

It seems that GameFAQs needs to clarify/make more apparant in its own ToU what is and what isn't allowed on their boards regarding topics of game modification.

Agreed. It's far too subjective, and things like "appropriate workplace discussion" are a bullshit description when they allow the language and subject matter they do, then you get modded because somebody disagrees with you hard and a touchy mod agrees.

yeah the bit about workplace appropriate kills me. perhaps you shouldn't be on gamefaqs while at work?

Yeah. Tbh, the furthest I'll ever go is Facebook and maybe an online shopping site. (i.e.Amazon/eBay/Target/Gamestop, nothing that carries risque stuff like Crunchyroll or Rightstuf on their front page)
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Veemon_X posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

TheCyborgNinja posted...

Veemon_X posted...

It seems that GameFAQs needs to clarify/make more apparant in its own ToU what is and what isn't allowed on their boards regarding topics of game modification.

Agreed. It's far too subjective, and things like "appropriate workplace discussion" are a bullshit description when they allow the language and subject matter they do, then you get modded because somebody disagrees with you hard and a touchy mod agrees.

yeah the bit about workplace appropriate kills me. perhaps you shouldn't be on gamefaqs while at work?

Yeah. Tbh, the furthest I'll ever go is Facebook and maybe an online shopping site. (i.e.Amazon/eBay/Target/Gamestop, nothing that carries risque stuff like Crunchyroll or Rightstuf on their front page)

oh I don't have a problem with people doing shit like that at work provided they get their work done. but a site actually caring about if their content is workplace appropriate baffles me, as I doubt many jobs openly allow their employees to goof off on the internet.
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The whole "FFX was on the PS2 and didn't need a PSN agreement" nonsense doesn't hold up since you posted that message on the FFX HD remake on PS4 board. That version does and the help you gave on that would violate the PSN EULA if they upload the save. Since it clearly violates a Sony EULA we can't allow it. It's really simple.
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Error1355 posted...

The whole "FFX was on the PS2 and didn't need a PSN agreement" nonsense doesn't hold up since you posted that message on the FFX HD remake on PS4 board. That version does and the help you gave on that would violate the PSN EULA if they upload the save. Since it clearly violates a Sony EULA we can't allow it. It's really simple.

You do not need a PSN agreement to play the PS4 version. A PSN agreement is for the products and services of PSN. FFX remaster can be bought and played without ever logging onto the PSN and accepting the agreement.

You do not need a PSN account, nor do you need to login to the account to accept the PSN agreement to play ANY version of FFX. They are ALL offline.
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The fact that it violates the PSN agreement and the saves can be uploaded the PS+ thus violating that agreement means we flat out do not allow it on this site. At all. Regardless.

Simple as that.

Also I imagine if we read through the overall PS4 EULA it would clarify that backwards engineering or modifying any game data would also violate it.
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Error1355 posted...

The fact that it violates the PSN agreement and the saves can be uploaded the PS+ thus violating that agreement means we flat out do not allow it on this site. At all. Regardless.

Simple as that.

It does not violate any agreement. Just because you edit an offline save does not mean you have to upload it. Now if I mentioned uploading it to PS+ then it would violate the agreement.

I will say it again, you DO NOT have to accept a PSN agreement to play FFX remastered. And you cannot insert things I never said, such as uploading to PS+ to say I broke an agreement when I never stated such.
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Look. We don't allow it. I explained the reasoning why we don't allow it. There is no way to talk out of this, this is the way we enforce the rules on the site. Sorry if you do not like it. I'm sure any rational person can go 'oh okay I won't do that then here' and move on with their life.
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Error1355 posted...

Look. We don't allow it. I explained the reasoning why we don't allow it. There is no way to talk out of this, this is the way we enforce the rules on the site. Sorry if you do not like it. I'm sure any rational person can go 'oh okay I won't do that then here' and move on with their life.

And I am sure a rational person would back their claims with the TOU stating it is not allowed. The TOU does not state such, and any rational person would simply ask why you mod something that is not going against your own rules. It's simple. There's no wrong in asking why if it isn't breaking the rules.
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We explained why it is against our rules. You refusing to accept the answer is not an issue with the GameFAQs moderation staff or GameFAQs ToU.
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