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SubtletyRefuge 08/26/17 5:02:37 AM #51:	Pogo_Marimo posted... SubtletyRefuge posted... pegusus123456 posted... IIRC, the rule wasn't that Light had to kill people. Just that he had to keep possession of the Death Note. So Ryuk wasn't goading him into doing s**. Ryuk is much more evil here and also seems to have a lot more freedom too. One of the first thing he tells Light after Light kills the bully is that he wants people dead and that he's only making Light the user for fun. His threats to give the note to someone worse is probably not restricted to only if the Death Note is kept, but rather if he isn't entertained by Light. It entirely removes the interesting foundation of the premise: An ideation of absolute justice executed by someone of total freedom and complicity. As soon as you start compelling* the main character to perform these actions, you slowly remove the responsibility from the act itself. I never said the movie was good. I actually think the opposite. --- Real subtle <cite>SubtletyRefuge posted [p:885471556] in The Death ... [t:75709243]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pogo_Marimo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SubtletyRefuge posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pegusus123456 posted...</cite> <quote>IIRC, the rule wasn't that Light had to kill people. Just that he had to keep possession of the Death Note. So Ryuk wasn't goading him into doing s***.</quote> Ryuk is much more evil here and also seems to have a lot more freedom too. One of the first thing he tells Light after Light kills the bully is that he wants people dead and that he's only making Light the user for fun. His threats to give the note to someone worse is probably not restricted to only if the Death Note is kept, but rather if he isn't entertained by Light.</quote> It entirely removes the interesting foundation of the premise: An ideation of absolute justice executed by someone of total freedom and complicity. As soon as you start compelling the main character to perform these actions, you slowly remove the responsibility from the act itself.</quote> I never said the movie was good. I actually think the opposite.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 08/26/17 5:04:58 AM #52:	pegusus123456 posted... GiftedACIII posted... If you can convict someone with that you can certainly blackmail someone with it. L would not, in fact, have been able to convict Light on the premise of him having a magic notebook that fell from the sky. No one's going to be curious enough to take the Death Note from Light because they're going to think Mia is fucking crazy for trying to convince people that Light has a magic murder book. Mia knowing about the book doesn't give her an advantage over Light because he has a magic murder book. And again, any premise of blackmail is irrelevant because she didn't try to blackmail him. She made a suggestion, he gleefully jumped on the idea. Then why would Light have been wary of L and other law enforcement the whole movie? Or hell, how did all those shenanigans in the original manga occur then? Obviously there are ways to show that the magic notebook actually works. I really think you're just shitposting and playing a contrarian now. Did Unfair steal your account? It's seriously like I'm talking to him right now. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:885471595] in The Death ... [t:75709243]...</cite> <quote><cite>pegusus123456 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>If you can convict someone with that you can certainly blackmail someone with it. </quote> L would not, in fact, have been able to convict Light on the premise of him having a magic notebook that fell from the sky. No one's going to be curious enough to take the Death Note from Light because they're going to think Mia is fucking crazy for trying to convince people that Light has a magic murder book. Mia knowing about the book doesn't give her an advantage over Light because he has a magic murder book. And again, any premise of blackmail is irrelevant because she didn't try to blackmail him. She made a suggestion, he gleefully jumped on the idea.</quote> Then why would Light have been wary of L and other law enforcement the whole movie? Or hell, how did all those shenanigans in the original manga occur then? Obviously there are ways to show that the magic notebook actually works. I really think you're just shitposting and playing a contrarian now. Did Unfair steal your account? It's seriously like I'm talking to him right now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 08/26/17 5:07:35 AM #53:	GiftedACIII posted... Then why would Light have been wary of L and other law enforcement the whole movie? Or hell, how did all those shenanigans in the original manga occur then? Obviously there are ways to show that the magic notebook actually works. I really think you're just shitposting now. He's wary that they can prove he's killing people through unidentified means. He is not worried that someone is going to accuse him of having a magic notebook. If and when law enforcement gets hold of the DN, that's when Light can worry about them talking about it. Oh, aaaaaand again, blackmail is irrelevant because she didn't blackmail him. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:885471623] in The Death ... [t:75709243]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>Then why would Light have been wary of L and other law enforcement the whole movie? Or hell, how did all those shenanigans in the original manga occur then? Obviously there are ways to show that the magic notebook actually works. I really think you're just shitposting now.</quote> He's wary that they can prove he's killing people through unidentified means. He is not worried that someone is going to accuse him of having a magic notebook. If and when law enforcement gets hold of the DN, that's when Light can worry about them talking about it. Oh, aaaaaand again, blackmail is irrelevant because she didn't blackmail him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 08/26/17 5:52:03 AM #54:	pegusus123456 posted... GiftedACIII posted... Then why would Light have been wary of L and other law enforcement the whole movie? Or hell, how did all those shenanigans in the original manga occur then? Obviously there are ways to show that the magic notebook actually works. I really think you're just shitposting now. He's wary that they can prove he's killing people through unidentified means. He is not worried that someone is going to accuse him of having a magic notebook. If and when law enforcement gets hold of the DN, that's when Light can worry about them talking about it. Oh, aaaaaand again, blackmail is irrelevant because she didn't blackmail him. As I said there are multiple ways around it. If people don't believe her, she can just show it to them. I mean, that's how they figure it out in the manga. And yes, blackmail is relevant because just having the threat of it looms over him especially when she keeps insisting for him to be "more crazy". Anyway, what do you think of Dexter then? Dexter not only kills people but tortures them. He's also killed a non-violent convict that served his time. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:885472247] in The Death ... [t:75709243]...</cite> <quote><cite>pegusus123456 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>Then why would Light have been wary of L and other law enforcement the whole movie? Or hell, how did all those shenanigans in the original manga occur then? Obviously there are ways to show that the magic notebook actually works. I really think you're just shitposting now.</quote> He's wary that they can prove he's killing people through unidentified means. He is not worried that someone is going to accuse him of having a magic notebook. If and when law enforcement gets hold of the DN, that's when Light can worry about them talking about it. Oh, aaaaaand again, blackmail is irrelevant because she didn't blackmail him.</quote> As I said there are multiple ways around it. If people don't believe her, she can just show it to them. I mean, that's how they figure it out in the manga. And yes, blackmail is relevant because just having the threat of it looms over him especially when she keeps insisting for him to be "more crazy". Anyway, what do you think of Dexter then? Dexter not only kills people but tortures them. He's also killed a non-violent convict that served his time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 08/26/17 5:58:32 AM #55:	GiftedACIII posted... As I said there are multiple ways around it. If people don't believe her, she can just show it to them. I mean, that's how they figure it out in the manga. And yes, blackmail is relevant because just having the threat of it looms over him especially when she keeps insisting for him to be "more crazy". She can't show them the book that Light has. And no, blackmail isn't relevant because there is zero indication she or Light think of it. Light outright tells her no multiple times in the movie, something he wouldn't do if he was afraid of blackmail. GiftedACIII posted... Anyway, what do you think of Dexter then? Dexter not only kills people but tortures them. He's also killed a non-violent convict that served his time. Yes, he's a murderer too. Dexter is a series that constantly talks about how he's a murderer. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:885472345] in The Death ... [t:75709243]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote> As I said there are multiple ways around it. If people don't believe her, she can just show it to them. I mean, that's how they figure it out in the manga. And yes, blackmail is relevant because just having the threat of it looms over him especially when she keeps insisting for him to be "more crazy".</quote> She can't show them the book that Light has. And no, blackmail isn't relevant because there is zero indication she or Light think of it. Light outright tells her no multiple times in the movie, something he wouldn't do if he was afraid of blackmail. <cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>Anyway, what do you think of Dexter then? Dexter not only kills people but tortures them. He's also killed a non-violent convict that served his time.</quote> Yes, he's a murderer too. Dexter is a series that constantly talks about how he's a murderer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 08/26/17 12:40:53 PM #56:	SubtletyRefuge posted... Pogo_Marimo posted... SubtletyRefuge posted... pegusus123456 posted... IIRC, the rule wasn't that Light had to kill people. Just that he had to keep possession of the Death Note. So Ryuk wasn't goading him into doing s**. Ryuk is much more evil here and also seems to have a lot more freedom too. One of the first thing he tells Light after Light kills the bully is that he wants people dead and that he's only making Light the user for fun. His threats to give the note to someone worse is probably not restricted to only if the Death Note is kept, but rather if he isn't entertained by Light. It entirely removes the interesting foundation of the premise: An ideation of absolute justice executed by someone of total freedom and complicity. As soon as you start compelling* the main character to perform these actions, you slowly remove the responsibility from the act itself. I never said the movie was good. I actually think the opposite. Oh I know. This movie just sounds like it was written by someone with absolutely no critical analysis skills who thinks Death Note is cool because bad dudes died. --- // BEAUTY IS NOT LOVE - LOVE IS NOT MUSIC - MUSIC IS THE BEST - WISDOM IS THE DOMAIN OF THE WIZ--WHICH IS EXTINCT // http://www.last.fm/user/Pogo92 <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:885483913] in The Death ... [t:75709243]...</cite> <quote><cite>SubtletyRefuge posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pogo_Marimo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SubtletyRefuge posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pegusus123456 posted...</cite> <quote>IIRC, the rule wasn't that Light had to kill people. Just that he had to keep possession of the Death Note. So Ryuk wasn't goading him into doing s***.</quote> Ryuk is much more evil here and also seems to have a lot more freedom too. One of the first thing he tells Light after Light kills the bully is that he wants people dead and that he's only making Light the user for fun. His threats to give the note to someone worse is probably not restricted to only if the Death Note is kept, but rather if he isn't entertained by Light.</quote> It entirely removes the interesting foundation of the premise: An ideation of absolute justice executed by someone of total freedom and complicity. As soon as you start compelling the main character to perform these actions, you slowly remove the responsibility from the act itself.</quote> I never said the movie was good. I actually think the opposite.</quote> Oh I know. This movie just sounds like it was written by someone with absolutely no critical analysis skills who thinks Death Note is cool because bad dudes died.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
clearaflagrantj 08/26/17 1:26:13 PM #57:	Pogo_Marimo posted... Oh I know. This movie just sounds like it was written by someone with absolutely no critical analysis skills who thinks Death Note is cool because bad dudes died. Literally having a kid get his head ripped off by a ladder and a dude getting impaled by a steak bone. "Dealer's choice!" They treat the viewer like a idiot with a bloodlust, Death Note is not Saw ffs. <cite>clearaflagrantj posted [p:885485899] in The Death ... [t:75709243]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pogo_Marimo posted...</cite> <quote>Oh I know. This movie just sounds like it was written by someone with absolutely no critical analysis skills who thinks Death Note is cool because bad dudes died.</quote> Literally having a kid get his head ripped off by a ladder and a dude getting impaled by a steak bone. "Dealer's choice!" They treat the viewer like a idiot with a bloodlust, Death Note is not Saw ffs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SoundNetwork 08/26/17 1:29:17 PM #58:	why is mia smarter than light lmao --- http://i.imgur.com/HcKBWZ6.gif <cite>SoundNetwork posted [p:885486033] in The Death ... [t:75709243]...</cite> <quote>why is mia smarter than light lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 08/26/17 1:41:15 PM #59:	A lot of people itt seem to not give Light enough credit. And not sure why it needs to be stated, but if you want your pure old school Death Note, go back and watch it. This movie isn't an exact replica and it isn't intended to be one. As a huge fan of the manga and anime (watched the anime at least 10 times and I have all the manga), I thought it was an okay movie. LOT of problems, and I especially dislike Light's characterization, but I realize he isn't the same character as in the manga. At the very least, the ending gives me hope for a potential sequel in which Kira is more demanding, and maybe they can add a new character to replace Mia that actually acts like Misa from the anime. 5.5 or 6 out of 10 for me. EDIT: Oh, and one part I still don't like at all (aside from Watari in the second half of the movie) was Light's father finding out about Kira in the end. One of my favorite aspects was while L always felt as if he was walking in tandem with Light, Light's father was always a few steps behind and never realized his son's faults even to the grave. I hope they either kill off his father, or Light can somehow wipe his memory or something ,if there is a sequel. --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:885486596] in The Death ... [t:75709243]...</cite> <quote>A lot of people itt seem to not give Light enough credit. And not sure why it needs to be stated, but if you want your pure old school Death Note, go back and watch it. This movie isn't an exact replica and it isn't intended to be one. As a huge fan of the manga and anime (watched the anime at least 10 times and I have all the manga), I thought it was an okay movie. LOT of problems, and I especially dislike Light's characterization, but I realize he isn't the same character as in the manga. At the very least, the ending gives me hope for a potential sequel in which Kira is more demanding, and maybe they can add a new character to replace Mia that actually acts like Misa from the anime. 5.5 or 6 out of 10 for me. EDIT: Oh, and one part I still don't like at all (aside from Watari in the second half of the movie) was Light's father finding out about Kira in the end. One of my favorite aspects was while L always felt as if he was walking in tandem with Light, Light's father was always a few steps behind and never realized his son's faults even to the grave. I hope they either kill off his father, or Light can somehow wipe his memory or something ,if there is a sequel.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezCaughtIt 08/26/17 1:50:03 PM #60:	It was garbage horse shit aside from Ryuk and L --- *The user formally known as freakofnature30* ROCK FLAAAAG AND EAAAAAAAAAGLLLLLLLE <cite>DezCaughtIt posted [p:885486976] in The Death ... [t:75709243]...</cite> <quote>It was garbage horse shit aside from Ryuk and L</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom_Nook 08/27/17 2:10:37 AM #61:	DezCaughtIt posted... It was garbage horse shit aside from Ryuk and L even then, they fucked up L in the end. --- When a girl has sex with a bunch of guys, they call her a slut, but when a guy does it, they call him gay. ~ Antifar <cite>Phantom_Nook posted [p:885521000] in The Death ... [t:75709243]...</cite> <quote><cite>DezCaughtIt posted...</cite> <quote>It was garbage horse shit aside from Ryuk and L</quote> even then, they fucked up L in the end.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezCaughtIt 08/27/17 2:12:06 AM #62:	Phantom_Nook posted... DezCaughtIt posted... It was garbage horse shit aside from Ryuk and L even then, they fucked up L in the end. I know man. Fuck it was a terrible adaptation --- *The user formally known as freakofnature30* ROCK FLAAAAG AND EAAAAAAAAAGLLLLLLLE <cite>DezCaughtIt posted [p:885521049] in The Death ... [t:75709243]...</cite> <quote><cite>Phantom_Nook posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DezCaughtIt posted...</cite> <quote>It was garbage horse shit aside from Ryuk and L</quote> even then, they fucked up L in the end.</quote> I know man. Fuck it was a terrible adaptation</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anisoptera 08/27/17 4:03:14 PM #63:	Wow. They showed bloopers in the end credits. <cite>Anisoptera posted [p:885547107] in The Death ... [t:75709243]...</cite> <quote>Wow. They showed bloopers in the end credits.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xelltrix 08/27/17 5:28:37 PM #64:	That thing was hot garbage from start to finish. --- Reading this post may induce one or more of the following: Nausea / Butt-Hurt / Lulz / UM? Syndrome / Angst / Diarrhea <cite>Xelltrix posted [p:885551357] in The Death ... [t:75709243]...</cite> <quote>That thing was hot garbage from start to finish.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anisoptera 08/27/17 10:46:09 PM #65:	It was a somewhat faithful adaptation . Now that we got the origin story and set up out of the way there will be lots of improvement in the second movie. <cite>Anisoptera posted [p:885567931] in The Death ... [t:75709243]...</cite> <quote>It was a somewhat faithful adaptation . Now that we got the origin story and set up out of the way there will be lots of improvement in the second movie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zack_Attackv1 08/27/17 10:51:00 PM #66:	Well color me shocked. </sarcasm> --- http://i.imgur.com/jDpE3nG.jpg http://i.imgur.com/WJxEKX0.jpg <cite>Zack_Attackv1 posted [p:885568205] in The Death ... [t:75709243]...</cite> <quote>Well color me shocked. </sarcasm></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xelltrix 08/27/17 11:19:01 PM #67:	Anisoptera posted... It was a somewhat faithful adaptation wat --- Reading this post may induce one or more of the following: Nausea / Butt-Hurt / Lulz / UM? Syndrome / Angst / Diarrhea <cite>Xelltrix posted [p:885569722] in The Death ... [t:75709243]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anisoptera posted...</cite> <quote>It was a somewhat faithful adaptation </quote> wat</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Doge 08/29/17 3:16:10 AM #68:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCspsmD84jE --- Wow such signature join Dogefaqs today http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1341-dogefaqs <cite>The_Doge posted [p:885639728] in The Death ... [t:75709243]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCspsmD84jE</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/29/17 3:29:56 AM #69:	I figured the ending was sequel bait and that Light is embracing being Kira now. Sequel will probably be about him and L. If they wanted him to be truly sympathetic he wouldn't have kept the book at the end. I know nothing about the other Death Note stuff though. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:885640063] in The Death ... [t:75709243]...</cite> <quote>I figured the ending was sequel bait and that Light is embracing being Kira now. Sequel will probably be about him and L. If they wanted him to be truly sympathetic he wouldn't have kept the book at the end. I know nothing about the other Death Note stuff though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sputnik1337 08/30/17 2:23:11 AM #70:	It was actually pretty fantastic. It captured all the 5edgy2me nonsense that the western audience seems to adore about the manga/anime perfectly. --- a <cite>Sputnik1337 posted [p:885700993] in The Death ... [t:75709243]...</cite> <quote>It was actually pretty fantastic. It captured all the 5edgy2me nonsense that the western audience seems to adore about the manga/anime perfectly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 08/30/17 2:41:58 AM #71:	Darmik posted... I figured the ending was sequel bait and that Light is embracing being Kira now. Sequel will probably be about him and L. If they wanted him to be truly sympathetic he wouldn't have kept the book at the end. I know nothing about the other Death Note stuff though. I assumed it was done for sequel purposes, but still... eww. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to your story! BAWSE! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:885701518] in The Death ... [t:75709243]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>I figured the ending was sequel bait and that Light is embracing being Kira now. Sequel will probably be about him and L. If they wanted him to be truly sympathetic he wouldn't have kept the book at the end. I know nothing about the other Death Note stuff though.</quote> I assumed it was done for sequel purposes, but still... eww.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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