Current Events > So if Mayweather is boxing's current GOAT

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And if McGreggor wins the fight, does that automatically make McGreggor the current boxing GOAT despite not having a 1 career fight in boxing? Or will Mayweather still be considered the best current boxer despite losing to a boxing amateur?

Best not to overthink it. This is a boxing match between an active mma champ and a retired boxing champ.

The result will have zero impact on their lives besides the money earned.
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salandrews posted...

Best not to overthink it. This is a boxing match between an active mma champ and a retired boxing champ.

The result will have zero impact on their lives besides the money earned.

That.

And Floyd is retired anyways. I mean yeah he's boxing Mac but he retired a couple years ago. Somehow didn't even see retired in that post.
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CanuckCowboy posted...

salandrews posted...

Best not to overthink it. This is a boxing match between an active mma champ and a retired boxing champ.

The result will have zero impact on their lives besides the money earned.

That.

And Floyd is retired anyways. I mean yeah he's boxing Mac but he retired a couple years ago. Somehow didn't even see retired in that post.

Wasn't the pacquiao fight only like 2 years ago?

I don't see how he's the boxing GOAT when he dodged all the best fighters until they were past their primes but this is just for money. I seriously doubt that Conner ever does a boxing fight again and with the biggest payday of his life coming who knows how long he'll even continue with the UFC. Hell he was threatening to retire last year.
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dj4242 posted...

I don't see how he's the boxing GOAT when he dodged all the best fighters until they were past their primes but this is just for money. I seriously doubt that Conner ever does a boxing fight again and with the biggest payday of his life coming who knows how long he'll even continue with the UFC. Hell he was threatening to retire last year.

I'm not the biggest fan of Mayweather at all, but he didn't dodge all the best fighters. He fought De La Hoya in his prime, Cotto, Mosley. He ducked Pacquiao till Pac was burnt out, which sucked. I agree he cherry picked fighters the last 5 years, and if he gets the 50-0 record it doesn't mean anything. But the first 40 fights or so of his career were legit.

dj4242 posted...

I don't see how he's the boxing GOAT when he dodged all the best fighters until they were past their primes but this is just for money. I seriously doubt that Conner ever does a boxing fight again and with the biggest payday of his life coming who knows how long he'll even continue with the UFC. Hell he was threatening to retire last year.

He's undefeated and that by itself is respectable. He's got the probably the best defensive boxing and that again is respectable.

But he's no GOAT. I'm no boxing expert just someone who follows it casually, more than average joe but less than boxing gym rats, and I'd never hold him up with Ali, Tyson, Sugar ray, or some of the others who are less well rounded but compensated with focus on one strength.
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Mayweather is a welter weight. Any heavy weight like Tyson would have killed him.
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Tanoomba posted...

Mayweather is a welter weight. Any heavy weight like Tyson would have killed him.

Im not saying he should fight people of tysons weight.
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You realize those two terms are incompatible, right? The "current" "Greatest of All Time" lol
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salandrews posted...

Tanoomba posted...

Mayweather is a welter weight. Any heavy weight like Tyson would have killed him.

Im not saying he should fight people of tysons weight.

I just think applying the term "GOAT" to any boxer that isn't a heavyweight is just silly. I mean, it's like claiming to be the best college football team ever, which I guess is impressive, but there's a whole level beyond that.
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Its harder to measure skill over strength.

Heavyweights have the ability to truly be the best as they have the weight to land the heaviest blows and can have as much skill as any other class.

GGG for instance is fighting at middleweight with Canelo on sept 16. His fights and record have him shaping up to be the 2nd coming of Tyson.
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Tanoomba posted...

salandrews posted...

Tanoomba posted...

Mayweather is a welter weight. Any heavy weight like Tyson would have killed him.

Im not saying he should fight people of tysons weight.

I just think applying the term "GOAT" to any boxer that isn't a heavyweight is just silly. I mean, it's like claiming to be the best college football team ever, which I guess is impressive, but there's a whole level beyond that.

GOAT doesn't mean who's the physically strongest, it's for the most dominant and skilled fighter. Sure, any heavyweight would kill Mayweather as would any Welterweight would kill Mighty Mouse. Doesn't change gears the fact that at their weight they are the most dominant fighters in the world.
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dj4242 posted...

I don't see how he's the boxing GOAT when he dodged all the best fighters until they were past their primes but this is just for money. I seriously doubt that Conner ever does a boxing fight again and with the biggest payday of his life coming who knows how long he'll even continue with the UFC. Hell he was threatening to retire last year.

Lol


Let's hear them?
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Wouldn't mike Tyson destroy mayweather
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Y'all looking too much into the term GOAT. Regardless, Mayweather is The best current boxer. Yes, a good heavyweight boxer might be able to win against Mayweather, but is there any current heavyweight boxers as famous and have such a flawless record as Mayweather? You can't say he's not the current best simply because he's not a heavyweight. You compare his stats to that of a heavyweight boxer in their own division. Not pitting them both in a ring and watching ge heavyweight have a distinct advantage just due to size.

Anyways, if McGreggor beats the best current boxer, does that by default make him one of the best boxers despite only fighting in 1 match?

XXHornDogXX posted...

You can't say he's not the current best simply because he's not a heavyweight

No, but you can say he's not the current best because he's not current. He's retired.

This fight isn't a match. He's not "un-retiring" for this fight. This is a circus and a money-grab, pure and simple. Mayweather being a "current boxer" is only the most technical of formalities, and he's not even coming back to fight another boxer. The only reason this is even going to be a boxing match is because Mayweather would get blown the fuck up and practically killed if it were any other form of fight.
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XXHornDogXX posted...

Y'all looking too much into the term GOAT. Regardless, Mayweather is The best current boxer. Yes, a good heavyweight boxer might be able to win against Mayweather, but is there any current heavyweight boxers as famous and have such a flawless record as Mayweather? You can't say he's not the current best simply because he's not a heavyweight. You compare his stats to that of a heavyweight boxer in their own division. Not pitting them both in a ring and watching ge heavyweight have a distinct advantage just due to size.

Anyways, if McGreggor beats the best current boxer, does that by default make him one of the best boxers despite only fighting in 1 match?

So many people out there have great technique as a quarterback, or basketball player, but will never have a chance to shine simply because of their size. Mayweather would get dominated by a boxer bigger than him, pure and simple.
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Tanoomba posted...

XXHornDogXX posted...

Y'all looking too much into the term GOAT. Regardless, Mayweather is The best current boxer. Yes, a good heavyweight boxer might be able to win against Mayweather, but is there any current heavyweight boxers as famous and have such a flawless record as Mayweather? You can't say he's not the current best simply because he's not a heavyweight. You compare his stats to that of a heavyweight boxer in their own division. Not pitting them both in a ring and watching ge heavyweight have a distinct advantage just due to size.

Anyways, if McGreggor beats the best current boxer, does that by default make him one of the best boxers despite only fighting in 1 match?

So many people out there have great technique as a quarterback, or basketball player, but will never have a chance to shine simply because of their size. Mayweather would get dominated by a boxer bigger than him, pure and simple.

Uh, he kicked Canelo's ass and that guy is as big as Conor and much bigger than Floyd. He's beaten guys who are bigger and hit harder than McGregor while also being actual elite boxers.

Conor is slow as shit compared to any elite boxer of similar weight classes. Canelo and GGG would murder McGregor and both would still lose to Floyd.
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Mayweather's not a current boxer, but he is the GOAT. He beat every big name at the time he came up and easily too. Canelo's dominating and he got tooled by Floyd. No one's as good as Floyd.

McGregor literally can't win so it's weird to discuss. Either way he'd literally die in the ring against Triple G or Canelo.
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TheDarkCircle posted...

dj4242 posted...

I don't see how he's the boxing GOAT when he dodged all the best fighters until they were past their primes but this is just for money. I seriously doubt that Conner ever does a boxing fight again and with the biggest payday of his life coming who knows how long he'll even continue with the UFC. Hell he was threatening to retire last year.

I'm not the biggest fan of Mayweather at all, but he didn't dodge all the best fighters. He fought De La Hoya in his prime, Cotto, Mosley. He ducked Pacquiao till Pac was burnt out, which sucked. I agree he cherry picked fighters the last 5 years, and if he gets the 50-0 record it doesn't mean anything. But the first 40 fights or so of his career were legit.

GTFOH

De La Hoya was not in his prime, his last three fights were against Mayweather (loss), Steve Forbes (a nobody) and Pacqiao (another loss). Oscar was far removed from his prime at the time he fought Mayweather and retired a couple fights later. If anything his prime was probably 8 years before that fight.

Shane Mosley was no longer in his prime during his fight with Mayweather either. Right after that he also lost to Canelo and Manny, went 3-3 and faded into retirement.

I'll give him credit for the fight against Ricky Hatton though. He was undefeated at the time, even if as Hatton fan I believe his prime was a couple years before that fight.
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