Current Events > "The more you do something, the easier it gets".

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Yaridovich posted...

I offered to help but it seems like you're more determined to just complain than anything else.

See.

If my problems don't magically disappear, then it's my fault.

Fine. I give up. Again. Until next month when my deadline's looming and the EXACT SAME FUCKING THING happens.

EDIT: And for the record, you didn't offer to help. You just wanted to read my writing.
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Can I see some of your writing? Please? Let's get this ball fuck rolling!
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DK9292 posted...

And everything's half-assed because I have to wait until the last minute of my deadline, because when I try to write anything BEFOREHAND and get what I WANT written my body just refuses to obey.

Try breaking the story down into parts with smaller scale tasks to complete on a schedule that is more broken down. The bigger the task the harder it looks and it starts to look like no progress is being made if you don't have smaller goals along the way.

Maybe instead of writing a small story a month, maybe write an opening on week one then the conflict set up week 2, etc.

Also when you go to write just right something, anything. You cannot do worse then not writing. Even if you have to delete everything you wrote on a day that still makes your story better by giving you another chance to get the right ideas out.
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DK9292 posted...

And for the record, you didn't offer to help. You just wanted to read my writing.

But that is how one could help. Perhaps you are not telling people what your actual problem is. Because you have been given a lot of advice in this topic. And not just "keep at it". I notice you conviently ignoring the actual advice.

If your problem is anxiety there is nothing CE can do about that. You need a therapist. You need a doctor. Not writing advice.

If you have actual writing problems, talking to others about your writing, your ideas and what you're trying to accomplish is the only real help they can give. You have to start by actually sharing your work.
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King Rial posted...

You have to start by actually sharing your work.

I don't believe that's true.

And even if I did, I don't think I can. I write under a pseudonym, and I don't want people to make the connection. Heck, only reason I'm even asking is because I'm just desperate to stop feeling like a failure about it.

Or is the part where you immediately start yelling about how I "clearly don't want advice" like every time before?
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DK9292 posted...

King Rial posted...

You have to start by actually sharing your work.

I don't believe that's true.

And even if I did, I don't think I can. I write under a pseudonym, and I don't want people to make the connection. Heck, only reason I'm even asking is because I'm just desperate to stop feeling like a failure about it.

Or is the part where you immediately start yelling about how I "clearly don't want advice" like every time before?

Okay bro whatever

Having fun keeping yourself down for the rest of your life.
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Yaridovich posted...

DK9292 posted...

King Rial posted...

You have to start by actually sharing your work.

I don't believe that's true.

And even if I did, I don't think I can. I write under a pseudonym, and I don't want people to make the connection. Heck, only reason I'm even asking is because I'm just desperate to stop feeling like a failure about it.

Or is the part where you immediately start yelling about how I "clearly don't want advice" like every time before?

Okay bro whatever

Having fun keeping yourself down for the rest of your life.

See.
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you do nothing but bitch and moan all of the time lmao

no one gives a shit about your pity parties. If you don't wanna help yourself and find more enjoyment in lashing out at people trying to help you then quit fucking trying.
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megamanzero1000 posted...

Turtlebread posted...

Repetition is seriously over-rated when it comes to learning new things.

The biggest improvements come from concious refinements of technique.

wtf does this even mean, should give an example while you're at it

It means rather than doing the same shit over and over in the hope of getting better you should be mindful of how you're doing it.

For example if you're having trouble playing a line on guitar it might not be that you haven't played it enough, it might be that your picking technique is shitty. No amount of repetition will help you unless you change how you're doing it in the first place.
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iosifsvoboda posted...

m but o

improving getting harder and topic title are not mutually exclusive, things can get harder but they still get easier every time you try, even if a little bit.

Edit: dunno why gfaqs botched the quote.
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DK9292 posted...

I don't believe that's true.

And even if I did, I don't think I can. I write under a pseudonym, and I don't want people to make the connection. Heck, only reason I'm even asking is because I'm just desperate to stop feeling like a failure about it.

Or is the part where you immediately start yelling about how I "clearly don't want advice" like every time before?

It is true, even if you don't want to believe it.

I don't think we've ever talked before, so there is no 'every time before' and I don't yell at people when helping them. Only for punchlines to jokes.

So, the first thing you need to do is share your work. You've decided not to take that advice.

The second thing people over the internet that don't know you personally can do to help you is tell you to take a beginners writing class. Either online or at your local learning annex.

And again, you really do need some competent professional mental help. If only to help you realize how much you focus on negativeness and ignore the positives. If you don't believe me, I can point out a few instances of you doing it in this very topic alone. You even preemptively brace yourself for negatives that aren't coming and then take whatever response you get in a negative way. That's unhealthy, and no one here is in a position to help with that. You need a good therapist.
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King Rial posted...

You need a good therapist.

Stop saying that. It's just an easy way to dismiss me, and you know it.

Even if it was true, I can't afford it and my family would never forgive me.
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Summary of topic:

TC makes angry complaint about the idea that putting hard work into something tends to pay dividends.

Upon being asked for explanation, TC explains that he barely writes anything at all.

TC is provided with a variety of suggestions and offers of help.

TC disregards/refuses these because they would require him to actually put in some ****ing effort.

TC starts lashing out at others because he wants some sort of instant fix even though the very original argued point was about putting in hard work to improve.

Jesus.

ArchiePeck posted...

Summary of topic:

TC makes angry complaint about the idea that putting hard work into something tends to pay dividends.

Upon being asked for explanation, TC explains that he barely writes anything at all.

TC is provided with a variety of suggestions and offers of help.

TC disregards/refuses these because they would require him to actually put in some ****ing effort.

TC starts lashing out at others because he wants some sort of instant fix even though the very original argued point was about putting in hard work to improve.

Jesus.

Wrong, but you don't fucking care, do you?

So go ahead. It's easier to shit on me if that's how you want to look at it, isn't it?
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DK9292 posted...

ArchiePeck posted...

Summary of topic:

TC makes angry complaint about the idea that putting hard work into something tends to pay dividends.

Upon being asked for explanation, TC explains that he barely writes anything at all.

TC is provided with a variety of suggestions and offers of help.

TC disregards/refuses these because they would require him to actually put in some ****ing effort.

TC starts lashing out at others because he wants some sort of instant fix even though the very original argued point was about putting in hard work to improve.

Jesus.

Wrong, but you don't fucking care, do you?

So go ahead. It's easier to shit on me if that's how you want to look at it, isn't it?

well, most of your responses in the topic have been to single sentences from multiple sentence posts, giving the impression that you didn't even read the rest
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DK9292 posted...

Stop saying that. It's just an easy way to dismiss me, and you know it.

Even if it was true, I can't afford it and my family would never forgive me.

I'm trying to help you. I don't know your situation, but if you are being serious, then you do need therapy. I don't understand how your family would never forgive you. When you are sick, general you need a doctor to help you. I'm not dismissing anything. If I were, I wouldn't bother typing out any of this. I don't know where you live, but if you are in the US, Canada, England, South Africa, Australia, Germany, Norway, Finland, Sweden, or a number of other 1st world nation, I can point you to some free mental health services, and no one in your family would ever find out about it.

And you didn't address the writing class advice.



But please, do me a favor.

Try this excercise.

Take everything you read from me at face value. Ignore everyone else for a bit, and just focus on me. My words. What I've typed. Because I don't use big words or doublespeak. And I don't try to hide my meaning behind coy responses or insults. I haven't dismissed anything you've said, and I haven't given any generic responses. Don't try to dig and read into what I am saying and simply read the words for what they mean in a literal sense. I'm not trying to trick you, and I don't want to hurt you or waste either of ours time.

Look at what I have said to you, then look at your responses. Did you address every point I made, or did you single out a lone thought and dismiss everything else?

You can PM me personally if you need to talk to someone, and I personally feel you do.
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King Rial posted...

But please, do me a favor.

Try this excercise.

Take everything you read from me at face value. Ignore everyone else for a bit, and just focus on me. My words. What I've typed. Because I don't use big words or doublespeak. And I don't try to hide my meaning behind coy responses or insults. I haven't dismissed anything you've said, and I haven't given any generic responses. Don't try to dig and read into what I am saying and simply read the words for what they mean in a literal sense. I'm not trying to trick you, and I don't want to hurt you or waste either of ours time.

You must really think I'm stupid if I'm going to believe you on this.

You can say you "don't use doublespeak, coy responses, insults etc" but that's what anyone would say. Because those things are exactly the tools EVERYONE uses on message boards to get away with blatant insults. Careful word choice and tone that aren't carried over when taken out of context, so to a mod or admin they seem perfectly innocent. Don't tell me you've never seen it; "I guess reading comprehension isn't your strong suit" sounds like a perfectly rational observation when you know it's used to mean "I guess you're just too stupid to understand what I've typed."

And you're telling me to wilfully ignore that. To give YOU the advantage, so you can insult me and I can't respond in kind, to drag me into an argument while you can sit back and pretend to be the good guy. And it'll end with the same thing that ALWAYS happens when I ask for help; you'll call me crazy, call me an asshole, or pretend I don't actually want help.

And you want to know the absolute worst part?

I'm going to do it. Because I'm that desperate, I'm going to wilfully walk into your trap and likely humiliate myself in front of everyone reading this topic. Hell, not as if I didn't already do that just for asking for fucking help in the first place.

So fine. Go ahead. But don't think for a second I don't see what you're doing.



And as for "addressing every point", I know that I didn't post a response to everything everyone's posted. But that doesn't mean I didn't read them, and didn't make a conscious decision NOT to respond. I've read everything in this topic so far, but I'm not going to reply to someone who's dismissing or avoiding the problem, someone who's insulting me, or someone who's just blatantly taking the piss.
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King Rial posted...

You need a good therapist.

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This guy has to be trolling. Ignoring and dismissing everyone elses advice and valid points then claiming they are the ones dismissing him? If the guy doesn't have a few screws loose, then he decided to take joe40001's gimmick of wanting CE's help, but never doing of their suggestions and paired it with Xsquader's gimmick of thinking everyone has it out for him. Fucking masterful, if you ask me.
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DK9292 posted...

You must really think I'm stupid if I'm going to believe you on this.

You can say you "don't use doublespeak, coy responses, insults etc" but that's what anyone would say. Because those things are exactly the tools EVERYONE uses on message boards to get away with blatant insults. Careful word choice and tone that aren't carried over when taken out of context, so to a mod or admin they seem perfectly innocent. Don't tell me you've never seen it; "I guess reading comprehension isn't your strong suit" sounds like a perfectly rational observation when you know it's used to mean "I guess you're just too stupid to understand what I've typed."

And you're telling me to wilfully ignore that. To give YOU the advantage, so you can insult me and I can't respond in kind, to drag me into an argument while you can sit back and pretend to be the good guy. And it'll end with the same thing that ALWAYS happens when I ask for help; you'll call me crazy, call me an asshole, or pretend I don't actually want help.

Well, you don't know me, it seems. nor do you know my reputation. But I don't insult people. I don't troll. Ever. I just don't have the desire nor the ability. You are factually wrong to claim those are tools "EVERYONE" uses, because I have a lengthy friends list of people who simply don't do that. DragonPick has never once trolled me or insulted me. KogaSteelfang doesn't insult, berate or troll me either. And I can go on. There are plenty of people that don't do that. If you have been reading what I have said, you will notice I haven't done the things you are being fearful of. I say to take my words at face value, because outside of my joke topics(which are largely ignored) I say what I mean and I mean what I say. I don't call people names. Certainly not "crazy" or "asshole". If I take what you are saying at face value, and I do, and you do the same with me, there will be no arguing. Even if we don't see things the same way.

>And you want to know the absolute worst part?

I'm going to do it. Because I'm that desperate, I'm going to wilfully walk into your trap and likely humiliate myself in front of everyone reading this topic. Hell, not as if I didn't already do that just for asking for fucking help in the first place.

So fine. Go ahead. But don't think for a second I don't see what you're doing.



And as for "addressing every point", I know that I didn't post a response to everything everyone's posted. But that doesn't mean I didn't read them, and didn't make a conscious decision NOT to respond. I've read everything in this topic so far, but I'm not going to reply to someone who's dismissing or avoiding the problem, someone who's insulting me, or someone who's just blatantly taking the piss.

If you feel as though I've dismissed you at any point, I'd like you to point it out and we can discuss why you feel it was a dismissal. Same for insulting you or anything else.

I mentioned that you can contact me, and you can. We don't have to do this on CE. You can PM me. I talk with other CEmen. Understandably, you would not know this. That is because I keep private messages private. No one on CE has to see what we discuss.

In fact, I absolutely suggest that we talk via PM. That way you can ignore all of the negativity of CE, and you don't need to worry about someone trying to get under your skin.
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Just so I understand you fully, are you trying to say that you reach a mental wall when it comes to creating stories? Like you'll have it all planned out in your head but despite you trying for a while, it never comes out the way you thought? Or you're simply not able ot express any of it? Try to tell me about this wall if you can.

Almost like having a great drawing in your mind but not being able to transfer it to paper.

I don't want to parrot stuff you've probably heard. Just try to explain your problem a bit more so we can give better advice.

I'd say it's not all necessarily repetition that improves skill. I feel one needs to observe others. People have a few ways of learning. Some need to do, some need to watch and some need to be told things.
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Turtlebread posted...

Repetition is seriously over-rated when it comes to learning new things.

The biggest improvements come from concious refinements of technique.

Aye. Repetition is only a part if it.
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Conflict posted...

God damn dude you're insufferable as fuck

You literally lash out at people that are trying to help you

Yeah he's either a gimmick or he has some sort of personality disorder.

King Rial posted...

In fact, I absolutely suggest that we talk via PM.

Alright.

RedWhiteBlue posted...

Could you please explain what you mean when you say you can't write? Are you physically struggling to put your words down? Are you struggling with how to continue your current chapter?

Ki_cat_ posted...

Just so I understand you fully, are you trying to say that you reach a mental wall when it comes to creating stories? Like you'll have it all planned out in your head but despite you trying for a while, it never comes out the way you thought? Or you're simply not able ot express any of it?

Yes, to all. I'm either completely unable to express it, or I force myself to express it and it doesn't come out how I like it.
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