Current Events > "The more you do something, the easier it gets".

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What bullshit.
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How long have you been shitposting and do you even notice anymore?

Canuklehead posted...

How long have you been shitposting and do you even notice anymore?

Because it has gotten too easy for him.
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It's true and false. The basics get easier the more you do them but once you reach a certain proficiency, improvement gets harder
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Repetition is seriously over-rated when it comes to learning new things.

The biggest improvements come from concious refinements of technique.
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Turtlebread posted...

The biggest improvements come from concious refinements of technique.

Unfortunately this cannot be taught. It's a natural talent.
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Veggeta X posted...

Turtlebread posted...

The biggest improvements come from concious refinements of technique.

Unfortunately this cannot be taught. It's a natural talent.

RedWhiteBlue posted...

Turtlebread posted...

Repetition is seriously over-rated when it comes to learning new things.

The biggest improvements come from concious refinements of technique.

This, and it's hard to find people that understand this.

So basically I'm beyond help.
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TC is right. When I first started killing people I would feel bad. Now murder is easy.

Jk mods
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Veggeta X posted...

Turtlebread posted...

The biggest improvements come from concious refinements of technique.

Unfortunately this cannot be taught. It's a natural talent.

the losers mentality

yes, if you aren't "born" with the skill it can be trained and developed. Put the time and effort in, and don't be defeatist about it and you'll be okay.
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Veggeta X posted...

Turtlebread posted...

The biggest improvements come from concious refinements of technique.

Unfortunately this cannot be taught. It's a natural talent.

Absolute defeatist nonsense to give quitters self validation.

If your attitude going into something is "I can" or "I can't", that's probably what's going to happen.

DK9292 posted...

So basically I'm beyond help.

So let's say your job is making hamburgers. You're taught how to do it and you've done it enough that it becomes easy to you right? Well the next step up is to make the process even easier and make it streamlined. Instead of doing it the way you know how to do it, think outside the box and try to find a way to make it easier. The term work smarter, not harder comes to play. You just gotta open your mind a little. Brainstorming and critical thinking.
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Roxborough4Ever posted...

Veggeta X posted...

Turtlebread posted...

The biggest improvements come from concious refinements of technique.

Unfortunately this cannot be taught. It's a natural talent.

the losers mentality

yes, if you aren't "born" with the skill it can be trained and developed. Put the time and effort in, and don't be defeatist about it and you'll be okay.

By that logic there should be some 5'4 guys in the NBA. I wonder why there aren't any.
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Veggeta X posted...

So let's say your job is making hamburgers. You're taught how to do it and you've done it enough that it becomes easy to you right?

Wrong.

That's the point of the fucking topic.
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The more you do something, the more you realise that your prior opinion that you knew something about such things was total nonsense, and you've barely scratched the tip of the iceberg of knowledge on the given topic.
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I had trouble drawing circles and straight lines, I practiced them 100s of times for several weeks and I got much better.
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So no one else has this problem. That you do things repeatedly to get a hang of it and it just doesn't work.

Great. I really am beyond help.
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You are not beyond help, you're just practicing whatever it is you're bad at ineffectively.

Think of what you can already do, drive a car, type on a keyboard etc. You obviously have the capacity to learn.
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Hey don't feel bad. Shaq was a pro basketball player and regarded as one of the best centers ever... and he sucks at free throws. Just find something you are good at.
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voldothegr8 posted...

Roxborough4Ever posted...

Veggeta X posted...

Turtlebread posted...

The biggest improvements come from concious refinements of technique.

Unfortunately this cannot be taught. It's a natural talent.

the losers mentality

yes, if you aren't "born" with the skill it can be trained and developed. Put the time and effort in, and don't be defeatist about it and you'll be okay.

By that logic there should be some 5'4 guys in the NBA. I wonder why there aren't any.

Just because doing something over and over makes it easier doesn't mean that we all have the same ceiling.

DK9292 posted...

So no one else has this problem. That you do things repeatedly to get a hang of it and it just doesn't work.

Great. I really am beyond help.

So what, specifically, are you moaning about and what problems are you encountering?

ArchiePeck posted...

DK9292 posted...

So no one else has this problem. That you do things repeatedly to get a hang of it and it just doesn't work.

Great. I really am beyond help.

So what, specifically, are you moaning about and what problems are you encountering?

My inability to write fiction.

I either get discouraged, second guess myself, and give up, or my body just seems to freeze up when I try to write something even if I KNOW what it is. No matter how many times I force myself to write, it NEVER gets any easier, and I've not improved in all the time I've been writing.
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*sigh* Of course. I say the problem and ask for help, and suddenly everyone goes conveniently silent.
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DK9292 posted...

ArchiePeck posted...

DK9292 posted...

So no one else has this problem. That you do things repeatedly to get a hang of it and it just doesn't work.

Great. I really am beyond help.

So what, specifically, are you moaning about and what problems are you encountering?

My inability to write fiction.

I either get discouraged, second guess myself, and give up, or my body just seems to freeze up when I try to write something even if I KNOW what it is. No matter how many times I force myself to write, it NEVER gets any easier, and I've not improved in all the time I've been writing.

Get a fucking coach or tutor or whatever for proper techniques and thought process. Hell I'm sure there's gigs and gigs worth of youtube vids that can help.
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DK9292 posted...

ArchiePeck posted...

DK9292 posted...

So no one else has this problem. That you do things repeatedly to get a hang of it and it just doesn't work.

Great. I really am beyond help.

So what, specifically, are you moaning about and what problems are you encountering?

My inability to write fiction.

I either get discouraged, second guess myself, and give up, or my body just seems to freeze up when I try to write something even if I KNOW what it is. No matter how many times I force myself to write, it NEVER gets any easier, and I've not improved in all the time I've been writing.

There will be writers groups/clubs in your area. Find them on Facebook and check em out. You'll get lots of tips and confidence simply from discussing your ideas.

What specifically are you nervous about when it comes to just writing say, short stories? You have to get to the root of your anxiety and figure out what's stopping you from just going for it. Remember: you don't need to write a philosophical masterpiece your first time out. Just write something quick and fun. Think of an emotion or idea you want to express, and from there, figure out who your characters are, what they'll be like, and how they'll react to situations you put them. Also, I recommend reading as much as you can as you write. There are patterns to how books are structured and you'll start to pick up on it.

Also recommend Stephen Kings "On Writing" book. It has a lot of helpful advice about writing habits and structure as well.
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Turtlebread posted...

Repetition is seriously over-rated when it comes to learning new things.

The biggest improvements come from concious refinements of technique.

wtf does this even mean, should give an example while you're at it

DK9292 posted...

ArchiePeck posted...

DK9292 posted...

So no one else has this problem. That you do things repeatedly to get a hang of it and it just doesn't work.

Great. I really am beyond help.

So what, specifically, are you moaning about and what problems are you encountering?

My inability to write fiction.

I either get discouraged, second guess myself, and give up, or my body just seems to freeze up when I try to write something even if I KNOW what it is. No matter how many times I force myself to write, it NEVER gets any easier, and I've not improved in all the time I've been writing.

read more fiction. and non-fiction too. think about why you like the things you do.

you need to force yourself to write. hell, there are roleplaying communities everywhere online if you need to start smaller. there's even one on gamefaqs that I've been fairly involved in.

but write a lot. set goals and deadlines - maybe 1 new short story a month
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averagejoel posted...

set goals and deadlines - maybe 1 new short story a month

For fuck's sake...

I've been doing that. THAT EXACT THING. And it's NOT HELPING.
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Can I read some of your stuff? I'd be willing to help! I love writing!
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DK9292 posted...

averagejoel posted...

set goals and deadlines - maybe 1 new short story a month

For fuck's sake...

I've been doing that. THAT EXACT THING. And it's NOT HELPING.

In what way? Are you not meeting your deadlines? Or are you just generally unsatisfied with the writing in general?
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this board is so fucking negative...
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ArchiePeck posted...

Veggeta X posted...

Turtlebread posted...

The biggest improvements come from concious refinements of technique.

Unfortunately this cannot be taught. It's a natural talent.

Absolute defeatist nonsense to give quitters self validation.

If your attitude going into something is "I can" or "I can't", that's probably what's going to happen.

You should test that out with flying...
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DK9292 posted...

averagejoel posted...

set goals and deadlines - maybe 1 new short story a month

For fuck's sake...

I've been doing that. THAT EXACT THING. And it's NOT HELPING.

if you continue writing, you will improve. either do it, or don't.
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_Goggalor_ posted...

DK9292 posted...

averagejoel posted...

set goals and deadlines - maybe 1 new short story a month

For fuck's sake...

I've been doing that. THAT EXACT THING. And it's NOT HELPING.

In what way? Are you not meeting your deadlines? Or are you just generally unsatisfied with the writing in general?

Both. And I can't force myself to write; it's not gotten easier, or simpler, if anything it's gotten harder. I haven't approved AT ALL ever since I first started.
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averagejoel posted...

DK9292 posted...

averagejoel posted...

set goals and deadlines - maybe 1 new short story a month

For fuck's sake...

I've been doing that. THAT EXACT THING. And it's NOT HELPING.

if you continue writing, you will improve. either do it, or don't.

I've been writing for six goddamn years and I haven't improved at all, you fucking liar.

If it were that simple, I wouldn't be this fucking desperate.
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DK9292 posted...

averagejoel posted...

DK9292 posted...

averagejoel posted...

set goals and deadlines - maybe 1 new short story a month

For fuck's sake...

I've been doing that. THAT EXACT THING. And it's NOT HELPING.

if you continue writing, you will improve. either do it, or don't.

I've been writing for six goddamn years and I haven't improved at all, you fucking liar.

If it were that simple, I wouldn't be this fucking desperate.

then you're doing something wrong. maybe try taking a writing course or something
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averagejoel posted...

then you're doing something wrong.

THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN FUCKING SAYING THIS ENTIRE...

Fuck it

I just

Fuck it
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"fall in love with the process, not the result."
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DK9292 posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

DK9292 posted...

averagejoel posted...

set goals and deadlines - maybe 1 new short story a month

For fuck's sake...

I've been doing that. THAT EXACT THING. And it's NOT HELPING.

In what way? Are you not meeting your deadlines? Or are you just generally unsatisfied with the writing in general?

Both. And I can't force myself to write; it's not gotten easier, or simpler, if anything it's gotten harder. I haven't approved AT ALL ever since I first started.

Okay. So what don't you like about your work? Stepping back to analyze it, what would you say you're failing to convey? Is it the prose? Lack of or too many plot threads? What genre/s?
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ShotOJameson posted...

"fall in love with the process, not the result."

HOW

Stop parroting smart-ass one-liners and tell me HOW.
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DK9292 posted...

averagejoel posted...

then you're doing something wrong.

THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN FUCKING SAYING THIS ENTIRE...

Fuck it

I just

Fuck it

I'm afraid that this is all I can do with the information that you've given me. but like, there are writing and literature classes at most colleges. I suggest taking a few
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DK9292 posted...

ShotOJameson posted...

"fall in love with the process, not the result."

HOW

Stop parroting smart-ass one-liners and tell me HOW.

http://www2.hawaii.edu/~freeman/courses/phil360/16.%20Myth%20of%20Sisyphus.pdf
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DK9292 posted...

ShotOJameson posted...

"fall in love with the process, not the result."

HOW

Stop parroting smart-ass one-liners and tell me HOW.

Wtf are you doing that's so hard

If you told us it could help.
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your mom?
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_Goggalor_ posted...

DK9292 posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

DK9292 posted...

averagejoel posted...

set goals and deadlines - maybe 1 new short story a month

For fuck's sake...

I've been doing that. THAT EXACT THING. And it's NOT HELPING.

In what way? Are you not meeting your deadlines? Or are you just generally unsatisfied with the writing in general?

Both. And I can't force myself to write; it's not gotten easier, or simpler, if anything it's gotten harder. I haven't approved AT ALL ever since I first started.

Okay. So what don't you like about your work? Stepping back to analyze it, what would you say you're failing to convey? Is it the prose? Lack of or too many plot threads? What genre/s?

The fact that it's the EXACT SAME as it's been since I've started.

And everything's half-assed because I have to wait until the last minute of my deadline, because when I try to write anything BEFOREHAND and get what I WANT written my body just refuses to obey.

And whenever I try to get help nobody fucking listens and just shouts the same useless insults at me and bitches about how easy it is and how i must be doing something wrong and giving me the same pointless half-assed advice that doesnt help and no one will just FUCKING LISTEN

This isn't the first time it's happened, and it won't be the last because I'm TOO FUCKING STUPID to just give up
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Structure. Patience as well. I can tell you're quick to get frustrated, which is definitely not conducive to writing. You're tense. I think you're expecting this magic day to come when you pick up a pen or sir down at the computer and you write something amazing. In essence, the monkies left alone will produce Shakespeare or whatever. Only that's not how it works. No one is saying there's some secret self improvement techniques. It's just recognizing what exactly makes you unhappy when you read what you write. What about it do you not like compared to A. What you want it to be and B. Other things you've read.
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_Goggalor_ posted...

I think you're expecting this magic day to come when you pick up a pen or sir down at the computer and you write something amazing.

No, I just want to be able to write WHAT'S IN MY HEAD

But my body just won't.

And everyone keeps saying that you need to write more and more and it'll get easier and I've been writing for years and it DOESN'T, but no one will tell me WHY or HOW. Hell, even in THIS FUCKING TOPIC, people have just given me the "keep writing, it'll get easier" and ignoring the fact that it HASN'T.
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I offered to help but it seems like you're more determined to just complain than anything else.
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