Current Events > Vermont Man fired from Uno Pizzeria in South Burlington for attending rally

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JohnLennon6
08/22/17 12:24:44 AM
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https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2017/08/17/vermont-man-fired-for-participating-in-white-supremacist-rally

BURLINGTON, Vt. (AP) — A Vermont man has been fired from his job after participating in the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

The Burlington Free Press reports that 28-year-old Ryan Roy of Burlington is shown in a Vice News documentary carrying a torch during a protest of the removal of a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee.

Roy says he favors white nationalism and separation based on race. He was fired from his job at Pizzeria Uno and Grill in South Burlington for participating in the rally.

He says ‘‘there’s nothing wrong with white people standing up for their own interest and identity.’’

Roy blames the violent clashes in Charlottesville on counterprotesters. A woman was killed when a man rammed his car into a crowd of counterdemonstrators Saturday.


Aren't American citizens supposed to have the freedom of speech? Why should somebody be fired for sticking up for what they believe in? He didn't even have a good paying job, so what's the point?
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literal_garbage
08/22/17 12:25:50 AM
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Isn't America supposed to have a free market?
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Bok_Choi
08/22/17 12:26:57 AM
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JohnLennon6 posted...
Aren't American citizens supposed to have the freedom of speech?

Yes. I'd say he expressed himself quite freely by attending that rally unimpeded (except by counter-protestors)

JohnLennon6 posted...
Why should somebody be fired for sticking up for what they believe in?

Because what he believes in doesn't align with the company's values

JohnLennon6 posted...
He didn't even have a good paying job, so what's the point?

what he believes in doesn't align with the company's values

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Phantom_Nook
08/22/17 12:27:34 AM
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Fair, next.
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dj4242
08/22/17 12:27:59 AM
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I hope all antifa members get fired
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Sylph
08/22/17 12:28:09 AM
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You have the right to say what you want to say, but society has the right to tell you to off as well. This is the way it does it, by ostracizing you into submission. Enjoy it, or move to your own special hate communities, white supremacists!
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ManSpread
08/22/17 12:28:10 AM
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Raikuro
08/22/17 12:34:38 AM
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Freedom of speech just means you won't be arrested for speaking. There are still repercussions to sharing stupid ideals that are perfectly legal reactions.
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PinkiePie462
08/22/17 12:35:52 AM
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dj4242 posted...
I hope all antifa members get fired


They wear masks AND don't even have jobs.
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GeneralZhao
08/22/17 12:36:30 AM
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ManSpread posted...
Freedom of speech isnt freedom of consequences


so many people need to understand this. Freedom of speech protects you from the government
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MabusIncarnate
08/22/17 12:40:30 AM
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Unbelievable.

I haven't seen an Uno pizza place since I was a kid like 25 years ago. I had no idea they still existed.
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Sylph
08/22/17 12:41:26 AM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
Unbelievable.

I haven't seen an Uno pizza place since I was a kid like 25 years ago. I had no idea they still existed.

They don't, now. This guy was their only remaining employee.
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MabusIncarnate
08/22/17 12:42:04 AM
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Sylph posted...
MabusIncarnate posted...
Unbelievable.

I haven't seen an Uno pizza place since I was a kid like 25 years ago. I had no idea they still existed.

They don't, now. This guy was their only remaining employee.

Ohh so it was like that last Blockbuster that has that twitter page. Makes sense.
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ToonLinkWithGun
08/22/17 12:47:34 AM
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This is what the government wants. Soon it won't be just Nazis fired. Soon it will be anyone who has different opinions from what "Society" sees as right. All it takes is an extreme to make something okay before it becomes "if you disagree you don't get to eat."
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Dathrowed1
08/22/17 12:49:08 AM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
This is what the government wants. Soon it won't be just Nazis fired. Soon it will be anyone who has different opinions from what "Society" sees as right. All it takes is an extreme to make something okay before it becomes "if you disagree you don't get to eat."

Don't be surprised if there's an inquisition.
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SilkPanties
08/22/17 12:50:45 AM
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GeneralZhao posted...
ManSpread posted...
Freedom of speech isnt freedom of consequences


so many people need to understand this. Freedom of speech protects you from the government


Its supposed to anyways..
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Raikuro
08/22/17 12:52:40 AM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
This is what the government wants. Soon it won't be just Nazis fired. Soon it will be anyone who has different opinions from what "Society" sees as right. All it takes is an extreme to make something okay before it becomes "if you disagree you don't get to eat."

lol imagine using the "First they came for the socialists" quote to defend Nazis.
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MabusIncarnate
08/22/17 12:53:10 AM
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Maybe he can go work for the coat factory now.
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_Near_
08/22/17 12:54:16 AM
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JL6 topic
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Antifar
08/22/17 12:54:32 AM
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JohnLennon6 posted...
Why should somebody be fired for sticking up for what they believe in?

Because capital hates that shit.
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Antifar
08/22/17 12:55:45 AM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
This is what the government wants. Soon it won't be just Nazis fired. Soon it will be anyone who has different opinions from what "Society" sees as right. All it takes is an extreme to make something okay before it becomes "if you disagree you don't get to eat."

I assume you're in favor of strong unions and collectively bargained protections for workers? Or, at the very least, a safety net for those who can't make a living on the market?
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Darmik
08/22/17 12:57:33 AM
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JohnLennon6 posted...
Why should somebody be fired for sticking up for what they believe in?


Because he's a white supremacist Nazi
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Zikten
08/22/17 12:58:18 AM
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Bok_Choi posted...
Because what he believes in doesn't align with the company's values

Companies don't have values. They just follow what the majority of their customers believe in. If public opinion changed and white supremecy took over the country, the company would make ads praising racism
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Bok_Choi
08/22/17 1:02:11 AM
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Zikten posted...
Companies don't have values

Chick fil A closes on Sundays

Corporations are people too
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hockeybub89
08/22/17 1:03:30 AM
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Just because you have freedom of speech doesn't mean people have to associate with you if they think you are a shithead based on your speech.
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Zikten
08/22/17 1:05:24 AM
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Bok_Choi posted...
Zikten posted...
Companies don't have values

Chick fil A closes on Sundays

Corporations are people too

Maybe that's an exception. But I believe that around 90% of companies only care about profits
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hockeybub89
08/22/17 1:07:32 AM
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Conflict posted...
Why do right-wingers have a glaring tendency to not understand what freedom of speech actually entails

You mean it doesn't let me say racist shit without fear of judgement?
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Zeeak4444
08/22/17 1:10:11 AM
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Dathrowed1 posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
This is what the government wants. Soon it won't be just Nazis fired. Soon it will be anyone who has different opinions from what "Society" sees as right. All it takes is an extreme to make something okay before it becomes "if you disagree you don't get to eat."

Don't be surprised if there's an inquisition.

I DIDNT EXPECT THE (Spanish) INQUISITION
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The Great Muta 22
08/22/17 1:10:42 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
You mean it doesn't let me say racist shit without fear of judgement?


What do you mean real life isn't the same as trolling behind an internet pseudonym?
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Bok_Choi
08/22/17 1:11:46 AM
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Zikten posted...
Maybe that's an exception. But I believe that around 90% of companies only care about profits

ow the edge
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ToonLinkWithGun
08/22/17 1:15:15 AM
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Antifar posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
This is what the government wants. Soon it won't be just Nazis fired. Soon it will be anyone who has different opinions from what "Society" sees as right. All it takes is an extreme to make something okay before it becomes "if you disagree you don't get to eat."

I assume you're in favor of strong unions and collectively bargained protections for workers? Or, at the very least, a safety net for those who can't make a living on the market?

I'm for the the original meaning of why America was founded. Never has every human had the same opinion on everything, but we are going downhill in the name of "tolerance" and the Charlotsville shit wasn't the start.
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Bok_Choi
08/22/17 1:27:23 AM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
but we are going downhill in the name of "tolerance" and the Charlotsville shit wasn't the start.

lmfao yeah
the status quo should be some people are discriminated against and others have more privilege

you know

instead of everyone having privilege and there being no discrimination
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Darmik
08/22/17 1:30:16 AM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Antifar posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
This is what the government wants. Soon it won't be just Nazis fired. Soon it will be anyone who has different opinions from what "Society" sees as right. All it takes is an extreme to make something okay before it becomes "if you disagree you don't get to eat."

I assume you're in favor of strong unions and collectively bargained protections for workers? Or, at the very least, a safety net for those who can't make a living on the market?

I'm for the the original meaning of why America was founded. Never has every human had the same opinion on everything, but we are going downhill in the name of "tolerance" and the Charlotsville shit wasn't the start.


lol you completely dodged his question
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Questionmarktarius
08/22/17 11:34:31 AM
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At-will employment is at-will employment.
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Horus_Leftfield
08/22/17 11:35:41 AM
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Good
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Unquestionable
08/22/17 11:44:32 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
At-will employment is at-will employment.


a.k.a fuck the workers all power to the company. Can't say it bothers me in the case of firing known white supremacists but it's still one of the worst things capitalism has brought us
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Questionmarktarius
08/22/17 11:54:42 AM
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Unquestionable posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
At-will employment is at-will employment.


a.k.a fuck the workers all power to the company. Can't say it bothers me in the case of firing known white supremacists but it's still one of the worst things capitalism has brought us

At-will employment means the employee is also free to end employment, at will.
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Solar_Crimson
08/22/17 11:56:00 AM
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JohnLennon6 posted...
Aren't American citizens supposed to have the freedom of speech?

That only applies to what the government can do, not private corporations.

Corporations are free to trim the fat if said fat will bring negative attention to their establishment.
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Solar_Crimson
08/22/17 11:59:53 AM
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Conflict posted...
Why do right-wingers have a glaring tendency to not understand what freedom of speech actually entails

Yeah, I've noticed this as well. Plus, it's always the people who want to get away with saying whatever nasty thing they want pulling that card.
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TheBiggerWiggle
08/22/17 12:29:13 PM
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Fair, next.

Imagine being 28 and working at a pizza place.
Imagine being a nazi.
Imagine hiding behind an alt on gamefaqs.com
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