Current Events > I have never understood the whole "homosexuality is a choice" argument

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CountessRolab 08/21/17 2:55:00 PM #1:	It doesnt make any sense. It implies that gay people are actually straight and are just having gay sex for lulz. lolwtf? Plus, why would anyone choose to be part of a minority group that is routinely discriminated against. It is such an irrational and absurd argument. EDIT: Topic inspired by this: http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/21/politics/kfile-sam-clovis-lgbt-comments/index.html --- https://i.imgur.com/Ux7l21R.jpg <cite>CountessRolab posted [p:885185317] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote>It doesnt make any sense. It implies that gay people are actually straight and are just having gay sex for lulz. lolwtf? Plus, why would anyone choose to be part of a minority group that is routinely discriminated against. It is such an irrational and absurd argument. EDIT: Topic inspired by this: http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/21/politics/kfile-sam-clovis-lgbt-comments/index.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Onepunch-Man 08/21/17 2:56:44 PM #3:	CountessRolab posted... Plus, why would anyone choose to be part of a minority group that is routinely discriminated against. Attention? IDK --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AADp5ujz81Y <cite>Onepunch-Man posted [p:885185400] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote><cite>CountessRolab posted...</cite> <quote> Plus, why would anyone choose to be part of a minority group that is routinely discriminated against.</quote> Attention? IDK</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CountessRolab 08/21/17 2:57:59 PM #4:	Onepunch-Man posted... CountessRolab posted... Plus, why would anyone choose to be part of a minority group that is routinely discriminated against. Attention? IDK There are far better ways to get attention that dont attract hate crimes. --- https://i.imgur.com/Ux7l21R.jpg <cite>CountessRolab posted [p:885185463] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote><cite>Onepunch-Man posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CountessRolab posted...</cite> <quote> Plus, why would anyone choose to be part of a minority group that is routinely discriminated against.</quote> Attention? IDK</quote> There are far better ways to get attention that dont attract hate crimes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DreadedWave 08/21/17 2:58:26 PM #5:	I've never understood why it matters. People should be free to bump their genitals with whoever they want without questioning why. --- http://i.imgur.com/ngBbHlM.png <cite>DreadedWave posted [p:885185487] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote>I've never understood why it matters. People should be free to bump their genitals with whoever they want without questioning why.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Onepunch-Man 08/21/17 2:59:15 PM #6:	CountessRolab posted... Onepunch-Man posted... CountessRolab posted... Plus, why would anyone choose to be part of a minority group that is routinely discriminated against. Attention? IDK There are far better ways to get attention that dont attract hate crimes. Are there really though? --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AADp5ujz81Y <cite>Onepunch-Man posted [p:885185530] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote><cite>CountessRolab posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Onepunch-Man posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CountessRolab posted...</cite> <quote> Plus, why would anyone choose to be part of a minority group that is routinely discriminated against.</quote> Attention? IDK</quote> There are far better ways to get attention that dont attract hate crimes.</quote> Are there really though?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkdamental 08/21/17 2:59:15 PM #7:	It's a choice in the way that we all sit down and make a conscious, carefully deliberated decision to start liking the flavours of certain foods. --- Slaughterhouse 5 Cattle 0 <cite>Funkdamental posted [p:885185533] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote>It's a choice in the way that we all sit down and make a conscious, carefully deliberated decision to start liking the flavours of certain foods.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 08/21/17 3:02:15 PM #9:	I always thought that to be an indicator that they may be gay. You know how I know it's not a choice? I don't have the impulse to act on. Maybe, they have the impulse, so they think it's a choice. --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:885185708] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote>I always thought that to be an indicator that they may be gay. You know how I know it's not a choice? I don't have the impulse to act on. Maybe, they have the impulse, so they think it's a choice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 08/21/17 3:02:49 PM #10:	Asherlee10 posted... There is nothing to understand about the 'choice' argument because it's absurd and you stated why. The actual act of, uh, "doing it", however, is defintitely a choice. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:885185739] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>There is nothing to understand about the 'choice' argument because it's absurd and you stated why.</quote> The actual act of, uh, "doing it", however, is defintitely a choice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkdamental 08/21/17 3:03:04 PM #11:	Onepunch-Man posted... CountessRolab posted... Plus, why would anyone choose to be part of a minority group that is routinely discriminated against. Attention? IDK Gay people obviously just can't resist the fun of being persecuted, arrested, imprisoned, tortured and murdered if it earns them minor celeb status. --- Slaughterhouse 5 Cattle 0 <cite>Funkdamental posted [p:885185750] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote><cite>Onepunch-Man posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CountessRolab posted...</cite> <quote> Plus, why would anyone choose to be part of a minority group that is routinely discriminated against.</quote> Attention? IDK</quote> Gay people obviously just can't resist the fun of being persecuted, arrested, imprisoned, tortured and murdered if it earns them minor celeb status.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 08/21/17 3:03:38 PM #13:	Questionmarktarius posted... Asherlee10 posted... There is nothing to understand about the 'choice' argument because it's absurd and you stated why. The actual act of, uh, "doing it", however, is defintitely a choice. And? --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:885185780] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>There is nothing to understand about the 'choice' argument because it's absurd and you stated why.</quote> The actual act of, uh, "doing it", however, is defintitely a choice.</quote> And?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CountessRolab 08/21/17 3:05:58 PM #16:	Questionmarktarius posted... Asherlee10 posted... There is nothing to understand about the 'choice' argument because it's absurd and you stated why. The actual act of, uh, "doing it", however, is defintitely a choice. Getting turned on isnt. --- https://i.imgur.com/Ux7l21R.jpg <cite>CountessRolab posted [p:885185922] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>There is nothing to understand about the 'choice' argument because it's absurd and you stated why.</quote> The actual act of, uh, "doing it", however, is defintitely a choice.</quote> Getting turned on isnt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmk 08/21/17 3:08:05 PM #17:	The "is it a choice???" argument is stupid from the getgo because it doesn't matter; if it WAS a choice, it still wouldn't be okay to discriminate against them. Like, it doesn't matter at all. People just need to give up trying to find excuses and loopholes to be a bigoted dick really. Fuckin'... People doing crap that doesn't affect you or harm anyone, choice or not, doesn't concern you. You bothered by, feel free to piss off. --- I am snazzier, hot, hot rant. Warily slight as. Croak rush, OK? Weirder, almighty make out. ::) <cite>Tmk posted [p:885186041] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote>The "is it a choice???" argument is stupid from the getgo because it doesn't matter; if it WAS a choice, it still wouldn't be okay to discriminate against them. Like, it doesn't matter at all. People just need to give up trying to find excuses and loopholes to be a bigoted dick really. Fuckin'... People doing crap that doesn't affect you or harm anyone, choice or not, doesn't concern you. You bothered by, feel free to piss off.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CountessRolab 08/21/17 3:09:14 PM #18:	Also, this topic was inspired by this: http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/21/politics/kfile-sam-clovis-lgbt-comments/index.html --- https://i.imgur.com/Ux7l21R.jpg <cite>CountessRolab posted [p:885186105] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote>Also, this topic was inspired by this: http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/21/politics/kfile-sam-clovis-lgbt-comments/index.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/21/17 3:10:32 PM #19:	If it's not a choice, what is it? It's not genetic. It's not a personality trait (and if it was, it'd be a choice, anyway). And, if not a choice, explain all those gay people that didn't realize they were gay until they were in their 40's, with spouses and kids. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:885186187] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote>If it's not a choice, what is it? It's not genetic. It's not a personality trait (and if it was, it'd be a choice, anyway). And, if not a choice, explain all those gay people that didn't realize they were gay until they were in their 40's, with spouses and kids.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePieReborn 08/21/17 3:12:14 PM #21:	I would figure a behavior built upon a mixture of predisposed biological tendencies and tendencies acquired from individual responses to the world around us. Granted, well outside of my academic niche on that one. --- Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire! <cite>ThePieReborn posted [p:885186289] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote>I would figure a behavior built upon a mixture of predisposed biological tendencies and tendencies acquired from individual responses to the world around us. Granted, well outside of my academic niche on that one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmk 08/21/17 3:12:36 PM #23:	darkjedilink posted... If it's not a choice, what is it? It's not genetic. It's not a personality trait (and if it was, it'd be a choice, anyway). And, if not a choice, explain all those gay people that didn't realize they were gay until they were in their 40's, with spouses and kids. Dude, preferences, sexual or otherwise, aren't a choice. If they are, let's all choose to find TV static SUPER arousing and give the porn industry a scare. --- I am snazzier, hot, hot rant. Warily slight as. Croak rush, OK? Weirder, almighty make out. ::) <cite>Tmk posted [p:885186312] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>If it's not a choice, what is it? It's not genetic. It's not a personality trait (and if it was, it'd be a choice, anyway). And, if not a choice, explain all those gay people that didn't realize they were gay until they were in their 40's, with spouses and kids.</quote> Dude, preferences, sexual or otherwise, aren't a choice. If they are, let's all choose to find TV static SUPER arousing and give the porn industry a scare.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DreadedWave 08/21/17 3:12:45 PM #24:	CountessRolab posted... Also, this topic was inspired by this: http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/21/politics/kfile-sam-clovis-lgbt-comments/index.html --- http://i.imgur.com/ngBbHlM.png <cite>DreadedWave posted [p:885186321] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote><cite>CountessRolab posted...</cite> <quote>Also, this topic was inspired by this: http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/21/politics/kfile-sam-clovis-lgbt-comments/index.html</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 08/21/17 3:13:06 PM #25:	CountessRolab posted... Also, this topic was inspired by this: http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/21/politics/kfile-sam-clovis-lgbt-comments/index.html http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170821112647-kfile-sam-clovis-again-large-169.jpg Now there's a man who clearly has no idea of the difference between desire and behavior. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:885186340] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote><cite>CountessRolab posted...</cite> <quote>Also, this topic was inspired by this: http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/21/politics/kfile-sam-clovis-lgbt-comments/index.html</quote> <quote>http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170821112647-kfile-sam-clovis-again-large-169.jpg</quote> Now there's a man who clearly has no idea of the difference between desire and behavior.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 08/21/17 3:13:11 PM #26:	it shouldn't matter if it's a choice or not --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:885186347] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote>it shouldn't matter if it's a choice or not</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DreadedWave 08/21/17 3:15:21 PM #28:	averagejoel posted... it shouldn't matter if it's a choice or not That's how I think but unfortunately it always will. --- http://i.imgur.com/ngBbHlM.png <cite>DreadedWave posted [p:885186490] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>it shouldn't matter if it's a choice or not</quote> That's how I think but unfortunately it always will.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/21/17 3:20:04 PM #29:	CountessRolab posted... Questionmarktarius posted... Asherlee10 posted... There is nothing to understand about the 'choice' argument because it's absurd and you stated why. The actual act of, uh, "doing it", however, is defintitely a choice. Getting turned on isnt. So a straight person turned on by his gay roommates sex noises isn't straight? Or a gay person listening to a hetero gangbang? Or are you suggesting everyone is actually bisexual? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:885186770] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote><cite>CountessRolab posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>There is nothing to understand about the 'choice' argument because it's absurd and you stated why.</quote> The actual act of, uh, "doing it", however, is defintitely a choice.</quote> Getting turned on isnt.</quote> So a straight person turned on by his gay roommates sex noises isn't straight? Or a gay person listening to a hetero gangbang? Or are you suggesting everyone is actually bisexual?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DreadedWave 08/21/17 3:23:18 PM #30:	Also sexuality is weird. I consider myself gay but I've been turned on by M/M porn. I don't think narrowing it down to "What makes you hot and bothered" is logical thing to do. --- http://i.imgur.com/ngBbHlM.png <cite>DreadedWave posted [p:885186979] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote>Also sexuality is weird. I consider myself gay but I've been turned on by M/M porn. I don't think narrowing it down to "What makes you hot and bothered" is logical thing to do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CountessRolab 08/21/17 3:23:54 PM #31:	darkjedilink posted... CountessRolab posted... Questionmarktarius posted... Asherlee10 posted... There is nothing to understand about the 'choice' argument because it's absurd and you stated why. The actual act of, uh, "doing it", however, is defintitely a choice. Getting turned on isnt. So a straight person turned on by his gay roommates sex noises isn't straight? Or a gay person listening to a hetero gangbang? Or are you suggesting everyone is actually bisexual? Apparently you are. Not really sure what point you are trying to make here. --- https://i.imgur.com/Ux7l21R.jpg <cite>CountessRolab posted [p:885187011] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CountessRolab posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>There is nothing to understand about the 'choice' argument because it's absurd and you stated why.</quote> The actual act of, uh, "doing it", however, is defintitely a choice.</quote> Getting turned on isnt.</quote> So a straight person turned on by his gay roommates sex noises isn't straight? Or a gay person listening to a hetero gangbang? Or are you suggesting everyone is actually bisexual?</quote> Apparently you are. Not really sure what point you are trying to make here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 08/21/17 3:24:13 PM #32:	darkjedilink posted... If it's not a choice, what is it? It's not genetic. It's not a personality trait (and if it was, it'd be a choice, anyway). And, if not a choice, explain all those gay people that didn't realize they were gay until they were in their 40's, with spouses and kids. There have been plenty of cases of gay people being in straight marriages and having kids and not coming out until later Because of all the discrimation it's easier to just fake being 'normal' --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:885187032] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>If it's not a choice, what is it? It's not genetic. It's not a personality trait (and if it was, it'd be a choice, anyway). And, if not a choice, explain all those gay people that didn't realize they were gay until they were in their 40's, with spouses and kids.</quote> There have been plenty of cases of gay people being in straight marriages and having kids and not coming out until later Because of all the discrimation it's easier to just fake being 'normal'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CountessRolab 08/21/17 3:25:17 PM #33:	Pretty much anyone can get turned on to pretty much anything due to pure sexual stimulation. What you are innately and naturally turned on to is different for everyone though. --- https://i.imgur.com/Ux7l21R.jpg <cite>CountessRolab posted [p:885187100] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote>Pretty much anyone can get turned on to pretty much anything due to pure sexual stimulation. What you are innately and naturally turned on to is different for everyone though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gatorsPENSbucs 08/21/17 3:27:28 PM #35:	Ehh. I've met gay people that said they were gay from day 1 and I've met people that said they were straight and then turned gay. To say 100% of gay people were born gay is just absurb. --- http://m.imgur.com/BtD5etN?r https://m.imgur.com/a/jclul http://i.imgtc.com/etNW2apANm.jpg <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:885187228] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote>Ehh. I've met gay people that said they were gay from day 1 and I've met people that said they were straight and then turned gay. To say 100% of gay people were born gay is just absurb.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CountessRolab 08/21/17 3:27:47 PM #36:	shockthemonkey posted... It's weird how we've (mostly) come to a point where thinking that being gay is a choice and yet people still believe that being trans is a choice or do to upbringing or that some people just want attention. Seems like we've been through this bullshit already and no one learned anything. When people feel uncomfortable about something, they try to delegitimize it and explain it away. --- https://i.imgur.com/Ux7l21R.jpg <cite>CountessRolab posted [p:885187244] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>It's weird how we've (mostly) come to a point where thinking that being gay is a choice and yet people still believe that being trans is a choice or do to upbringing or that some people just want attention. Seems like we've been through this bullshit already and no one learned anything.</quote> When people feel uncomfortable about something, they try to delegitimize it and explain it away.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DreadedWave 08/21/17 3:28:56 PM #37:	gatorsPENSbucs posted... I've met people that said they were straight and then turned gay. They didn't "turn gay" I didn't realize I was gay until I was in my mid twenties. I've had lots of straight sexual encounters before then because I just thought that's how it was supposed to be. --- http://i.imgur.com/ngBbHlM.png <cite>DreadedWave posted [p:885187315] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>I've met people that said they were straight and then turned gay. </quote> They didn't "turn gay" I didn't realize I was gay until I was in my mid twenties. I've had lots of straight sexual encounters before then because I just thought that's how it was supposed to be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CountessRolab 08/21/17 3:29:05 PM #38:	gatorsPENSbucs posted... Ehh. I've met gay people that said they were gay from day 1 and I've met people that said they were straight and then turned gay. To say 100% of gay people were born gay is just absurb. It is more accurate to say that sexuality is fluid and many (but not all) people are just varying degrees of bisexual. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale --- https://i.imgur.com/Ux7l21R.jpg <cite>CountessRolab posted [p:885187327] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>Ehh. I've met gay people that said they were gay from day 1 and I've met people that said they were straight and then turned gay. To say 100% of gay people were born gay is just absurb.</quote> It is more accurate to say that sexuality is fluid and many (but not all) people are just varying degrees of bisexual. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 08/21/17 3:31:58 PM #41:	shockthemonkey posted... CountessRolab posted... gatorsPENSbucs posted... Ehh. I've met gay people that said they were gay from day 1 and I've met people that said they were straight and then turned gay. To say 100% of gay people were born gay is just absurb. It is more accurate to say that sexuality is fluid and many (but not all) people are just varying degrees of bisexual. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale Even the Kinsey scale is pretty simplistic. Sexuality is much less of a spectrum and much more of a wide web of things that could arouse a person. not to mention that there's an asexuality spectrum too --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:885187494] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CountessRolab posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>Ehh. I've met gay people that said they were gay from day 1 and I've met people that said they were straight and then turned gay. To say 100% of gay people were born gay is just absurb.</quote> It is more accurate to say that sexuality is fluid and many (but not all) people are just varying degrees of bisexual. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale </quote> Even the Kinsey scale is pretty simplistic. Sexuality is much less of a spectrum and much more of a wide web of things that could arouse a person.</quote> not to mention that there's an asexuality spectrum too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monolith1676 08/21/17 3:32:02 PM #42:	DreadedWave posted... I've never understood why it matters. People should be free to bump their genitals with whoever they want without questioning why. That could be phrased better. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:885187500] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote><cite>DreadedWave posted...</cite> <quote>I've never understood why it matters. People should be free to bump their genitals with whoever they want without questioning why.</quote> That could be phrased better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CountessRolab 08/21/17 3:32:14 PM #44:	shockthemonkey posted... CountessRolab posted... gatorsPENSbucs posted... Ehh. I've met gay people that said they were gay from day 1 and I've met people that said they were straight and then turned gay. To say 100% of gay people were born gay is just absurb. It is more accurate to say that sexuality is fluid and many (but not all) people are just varying degrees of bisexual. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale Even the Kinsey scale is pretty simplistic. Sexuality is much less of a spectrum and much more of a wide web of things that could arouse a person. Honestly, even just using arousal to measure sexuality is pretty inaccurate. You can forcibly get turned on to pretty much anything if it is sexualized enough. --- https://i.imgur.com/Ux7l21R.jpg <cite>CountessRolab posted [p:885187512] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CountessRolab posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>Ehh. I've met gay people that said they were gay from day 1 and I've met people that said they were straight and then turned gay. To say 100% of gay people were born gay is just absurb.</quote> It is more accurate to say that sexuality is fluid and many (but not all) people are just varying degrees of bisexual. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale </quote> Even the Kinsey scale is pretty simplistic. Sexuality is much less of a spectrum and much more of a wide web of things that could arouse a person.</quote> Honestly, even just using arousal to measure sexuality is pretty inaccurate. You can forcibly get turned on to pretty much anything if it is sexualized enough.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kisai 08/21/17 3:35:21 PM #45:	I'm pretty sure they're approaching the idea from, if you had to choose between a man, or a woman, which would you choose? And if you're a gay man, you're going to choose a man. But regardless, it shouldn't matter whether it's a choice or not. ¬_¬ Society shouldn't have a problem with it no matter what. --- WHO MODS THE MODERATORS? <cite>Kisai posted [p:885187693] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure they're approaching the idea from, if you had to choose between a man, or a woman, which would you choose? And if you're a gay man, you're going to choose a man. But regardless, it shouldn't matter whether it's a choice or not. ¬_¬ Society shouldn't have a problem with it no matter what.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmk 08/21/17 3:38:19 PM #46:	shockthemonkey posted... It's weird how we've (mostly) come to a point where thinking that being gay is a choice and yet people still believe that being trans is a choice or do to upbringing or that some people just want attention. Seems like we've been through this bullshit already and no one learned anything. This is part of why I'm against the argument altogether if whether or not it's a choice, as the deciding factor for if it's "okay" because we're not addressing the root problem then, and the next demonised group has to go through the same BS. The root problem is some people see consenting adults living differently from them, and have a kneejerk reaction to think that's bad, and wrong. Badong, if you will. "they can't help it!" to appease these people was always a flawed compromise because it supports the notion the only reason it should be okay for two men to have sex is because they can't help it. As though it's some debilitating illness or something they got dealt in a bad hand in the game of life so don't criticise them for it! >_> --- I am snazzier, hot, hot rant. Warily slight as. Croak rush, OK? Weirder, almighty make out. ::) <cite>Tmk posted [p:885187876] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>It's weird how we've (mostly) come to a point where thinking that being gay is a choice and yet people still believe that being trans is a choice or do to upbringing or that some people just want attention. Seems like we've been through this bullshit already and no one learned anything.</quote> This is part of why I'm against the argument altogether if whether or not it's a choice, as the deciding factor for if it's "okay" because we're not addressing the root problem then, and the next demonised group has to go through the same BS. The root problem is some people see consenting adults living differently from them, and have a kneejerk reaction to think that's bad, and wrong. Badong, if you will. "they can't help it!" to appease these people was always a flawed compromise because it supports the notion the only reason it should be okay for two men to have sex is because they can't help it. As though it's some debilitating illness or something they got dealt in a bad hand in the game of life so don't criticise them for it! >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cartwheel_Kick 08/21/17 4:04:45 PM #49:	LordRazziel posted... I always thought that to be an indicator that they may be gay. You know how I know it's not a choice? I don't have the impulse to act on. Maybe, they have the impulse, so they think it's a choice. Yeah they're probably bi at a certain proportion suppress their homo urges and act only on their hetero ones, and think gay people just chose the dark side --- dude, you NEVER tell people about the girl you're banging. that's the fastest way to unbang her. -Steve Nick <cite>Cartwheel_Kick posted [p:885189336] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>I always thought that to be an indicator that they may be gay. You know how I know it's not a choice? I don't have the impulse to act on. Maybe, they have the impulse, so they think it's a choice.</quote> Yeah they're probably bi at a certain proportion suppress their homo urges and act only on their hetero ones, and think gay people just chose the dark side</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 08/21/17 4:36:19 PM #50:	So what about a guy in jail, connects with another guy, they both get out and continue with their connection. So that guy was gay his whole life? I agree that it doesn't matter one bit and people should be free to like whoever they want, but I'll never agree that every gay person in this world was born that way. --- http://m.imgur.com/BtD5etN?r https://m.imgur.com/a/jclul http://i.imgtc.com/etNW2apANm.jpg <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:885191081] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote>So what about a guy in jail, connects with another guy, they both get out and continue with their connection. So that guy was gay his whole life? I agree that it doesn't matter one bit and people should be free to like whoever they want, but I'll never agree that every gay person in this world was born that way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 08/21/17 9:12:49 PM #51:	Tmk posted... The "is it a choice???" argument is stupid from the getgo because it doesn't matter; if it WAS a choice, it still wouldn't be okay to discriminate against them. Like, it doesn't matter at all. People just need to give up trying to find excuses and loopholes to be a bigoted dick really. Fuckin'... People doing crap that doesn't affect you or harm anyone, choice or not, doesn't concern you. You bothered by, feel free to piss off. Words of wisdom, Lloyd. Words of wisdom. This is why I have always liked tmk. He always tries to take a step back for a better perspective. tips giant foam 10 gallon hat --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f**in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:885206824] in I have nev... [t:75693888]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmk posted...</cite> <quote>The "is it a choice???" argument is stupid from the getgo because it doesn't matter; if it WAS a choice, it still wouldn't be okay to discriminate against them. Like, it doesn't matter at all. People just need to give up trying to find excuses and loopholes to be a bigoted dick really. Fuckin'... People doing crap that doesn't affect you or harm anyone, choice or not, doesn't concern you. You bothered by, feel free to piss off.</quote> Words of wisdom, Lloyd. Words of wisdom. This is why I have always liked tmk. He always tries to take a step back for a better perspective. tips giant foam 10 gallon hat*</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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