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MemeDaddy
08/20/17 9:41:14 AM
#1:


Let's take the newest episode for example:
1. Zeno is omnipotent but can't see Dyspo and Hit fighting, but GP and angels can.
2. Goku needing to put his fingers to his forehead to use Instant Transmission, despite using it while charging a Kamehameha many times and even using it in succession while fighting.
3. Dyspo can apparently move faster than light, but Hit attacks him without Time Skip? The fuck? Is Hit faster than light? Does that mean Goku is too?
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Funkydog
08/20/17 9:46:50 AM
#2:


Hit was tricking dypso into thinking he was using time skip when he wasn't and then using it when expected it was a trick etc. Dypso had hyper hearing to be able to hear their muscle movements apparently?

Dypso likely could tell goku would use it regardless.

Dunno bout omni king.
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CurzonDax
08/20/17 9:48:42 AM
#3:


Zeno can not fight. Why is that so hard to understand? If he wants to destroy someone he erases the. End of story.
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DK9292
08/20/17 9:49:18 AM
#4:


Because Toei care more about being entertaining than being consistent.

Check out Toyotoro's manga instead.
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gamepimp12
08/20/17 9:51:42 AM
#5:


DK9292 posted...
Because Toei care more about being entertaining than being consistent.

Check out Toyotoro's manga instead.


And toyotoro's manga so concerned bout being consistent it's boring in comparison.

It's annoying tbh
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DK9292
08/20/17 9:52:50 AM
#6:


gamepimp12 posted...
DK9292 posted...
Because Toei care more about being entertaining than being consistent.

Check out Toyotoro's manga instead.


And toyotoro's manga so concerned bout being consistent it's boring in comparison.

It's annoying tbh

Depends on what you want out of the story.

The anime is flashy and all about fights. The manga is consistent and discusses what the anime glosses over.
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MemeDaddy
08/20/17 9:55:07 AM
#7:


Funkydog posted...
Hit was tricking dypso into thinking he was using time skip when he wasn't and then using it when expected it was a trick etc. Dypso had hyper hearing to be able to hear their muscle movements apparently?

Dypso likely could tell goku would use it regardless.

Dunno bout omni king.

Yeah obviously he was tricking Dyspo, but that still means that Hit is faster than light.

DK9292 posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
DK9292 posted...
Because Toei care more about being entertaining than being consistent.

Check out Toyotoro's manga instead.


And toyotoro's manga so concerned bout being consistent it's boring in comparison.

It's annoying tbh

Depends on what you want out of the story.

The anime is flashy and all about fights. The manga is consistent and discusses what the anime glosses over.

If by flashy, you mean invisible explosions and speed lines then sure.

For an action series, it's pretty terribly animated.
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gamepimp12
08/20/17 9:56:02 AM
#8:


My point was that you can be both, but with dbs it's either or.
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Ricemills
08/20/17 9:56:53 AM
#9:


remember when goku doesnt know what a kiss is?
now it got worse, apparently he's absent at gohan's birth too.
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Funkydog
08/20/17 9:57:00 AM
#10:


MemeDaddy posted...
Yeah obviously he was tricking Dyspo, but that still means that Hit is faster than light.

Well, no. Just means he was baiting him and he fell for it.
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gamepimp12
08/20/17 9:57:15 AM
#11:


MemeDaddy posted...
Funkydog posted...
Hit was tricking dypso into thinking he was using time skip when he wasn't and then using it when expected it was a trick etc. Dypso had hyper hearing to be able to hear their muscle movements apparently?

Dypso likely could tell goku would use it regardless.

Dunno bout omni king.

Yeah obviously he was tricking Dyspo, but that still means that Hit is faster than light.

DK9292 posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
DK9292 posted...
Because Toei care more about being entertaining than being consistent.

Check out Toyotoro's manga instead.


And toyotoro's manga so concerned bout being consistent it's boring in comparison.

It's annoying tbh

Depends on what you want out of the story.

The anime is flashy and all about fights. The manga is consistent and discusses what the anime glosses over.

If by flashy, you mean invisible explosions and speed lines then sure.

For an action series, it's pretty terribly animated.



Not really, it's animation isn't much better or worse than other ongoing weekly series.
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Unsugarized_Foo
08/20/17 9:57:39 AM
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Goku does the finger thing to concentrate, I guess he doesn't really need to focus that hard when it's within sight

Now when he's flying around light years away is another story
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MemeDaddy
08/20/17 9:58:26 AM
#13:


Funkydog posted...
MemeDaddy posted...
Yeah obviously he was tricking Dyspo, but that still means that Hit is faster than light.

Well, no. Just means he was baiting him and he fell for it.

To be able to hit Dyspo, he would need to be faster than light.

I don't see any explanation around this.

If Dyspo moves at that speed, he could easily dodge anything slower than light.
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gamepimp12
08/20/17 9:58:53 AM
#14:


Funkydog posted...
MemeDaddy posted...
Yeah obviously he was tricking Dyspo, but that still means that Hit is faster than light.

Well, no. Just means he was baiting him and he fell for it.



Dyspo top speed is faster than light

Hits time skip is faster than that.

The only thing is the activation of timeskip is near instant.
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MemeDaddy
08/20/17 9:58:54 AM
#15:


gamepimp12 posted...
Not really, it's animation isn't much better or worse than other ongoing weekly series.

My Hero Academia is much better animated.
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gamepimp12
08/20/17 9:59:25 AM
#16:


MemeDaddy posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
Not really, it's animation isn't much better or worse than other ongoing weekly series.

My Hero Academia is much better animated.



My hero isn't a weekly ongoing series.
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MemeDaddy
08/20/17 10:00:46 AM
#17:


gamepimp12 posted...
Funkydog posted...
MemeDaddy posted...
Yeah obviously he was tricking Dyspo, but that still means that Hit is faster than light.

Well, no. Just means he was baiting him and he fell for it.



Dyspo top speed is faster than light

Hits time skip is faster than that.

The only thing is the activation of timeskip is near instant.

Goku's been able to break Time Skip after activation so that would mean he's faster than light as well.

It doesn't really make sense when you consider how much time in the ToP has passed.
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MemeDaddy
08/20/17 10:01:23 AM
#18:


gamepimp12 posted...
MemeDaddy posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
Not really, it's animation isn't much better or worse than other ongoing weekly series.

My Hero Academia is much better animated.



My hero isn't a weekly ongoing series.

I could've sworn it aired weekly but it just had a break recently.
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Funkydog
08/20/17 10:02:39 AM
#19:


gamepimp12 posted...
Funkydog posted...
MemeDaddy posted...
Yeah obviously he was tricking Dyspo, but that still means that Hit is faster than light.

Well, no. Just means he was baiting him and he fell for it.



Dyspo top speed is faster than light

Hits time skip is faster than that.

The only thing is the activation of timeskip is near instant.

Well, yeah, I guess using his timeskip he can be. But that's nothing new, he was always able to move at that speed - but Hit himself isn't that fast and Dypso was clearly faster than Hit's ability to use it.

Basically, it's all nonsense and just meant to be flashy fun. Not much taking it at anything more than face value.
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NurseRedHeart
08/20/17 10:03:47 AM
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DBZ dudes were faster than light since Radditz
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MemeDaddy
08/20/17 10:05:21 AM
#21:


NurseRedHeart posted...
DBZ dudes were faster than light since Radditz

Why would Dyspo moving faster than light even be mentioned now then?

Not that I doubt it, just add that to the list of inconsistencies
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gamepimp12
08/20/17 10:13:45 AM
#22:


MemeDaddy posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
MemeDaddy posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
Not really, it's animation isn't much better or worse than other ongoing weekly series.

My Hero Academia is much better animated.



My hero isn't a weekly ongoing series.

I could've sworn it aired weekly but it just had a break recently.


It's not an ongoing series in the sense it's seasonal and not year long.


You'll want to compare super to bleach naruto one piece

All things known for inconsistent animation
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MemeDaddy
08/20/17 10:37:40 AM
#23:


Why should only weekly series be compared?

DB has a fuck ton of filler, it's not like they don't cut massive corners
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uwnim
08/20/17 10:48:07 AM
#24:


MemeDaddy posted...

To be able to hit Dyspo, he would need to be faster than light.

I don't see any explanation around this.

If Dyspo moves at that speed, he could easily dodge anything slower than light.

Dyspo tends to move in straight lines it was mentioned in the episode. Makes him predictable so slower but better fighters can attack where he will be.
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Go_Totodile
08/20/17 10:48:31 AM
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Wasn't TC supposed to close his account?
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gamepimp12
08/20/17 10:51:38 AM
#26:


MemeDaddy posted...
Why should only weekly series be compared?

DB has a fuck ton of filler, it's not like they don't cut massive corners


1. The difference in development time is pretty significant.

2. dragon ball got away with most of this with the extended power up and charge times
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MemeDaddy
08/20/17 10:53:36 AM
#27:


gamepimp12 posted...
MemeDaddy posted...
Why should only weekly series be compared?

DB has a fuck ton of filler, it's not like they don't cut massive corners


1. The difference in development time is pretty significant.

2. dragon ball got away with most of this with the extended power up and charge times

Why does that even matter? I'm comparing final product, I don't give a shit how long it takes to produce an episode. It has no affect on my viewing. DB is an action series that's poorly animated, that's the bottom line.

Fights often fall into the pit of invisible explosions and speed lines. Last week's episode was pretty bad for that.
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gamepimp12
08/20/17 10:57:54 AM
#28:


perspective is pretty big deal and that's what I was mentioning.

Is super poorly animated ? Yes

Is it compared to shows of the same format not harder ?
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MemeDaddy
08/20/17 10:59:30 AM
#29:


gamepimp12 posted...
perspective is pretty big deal and that's what I was mentioning.

Is super poorly animated ? Yes

Is it compared to shows of the same format not harder ?

Even if it's better by comparison (to shows I don't even watch), why would that have any bearing on me watching Super?
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gamepimp12
08/20/17 11:55:28 AM
#30:


MemeDaddy posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
perspective is pretty big deal and that's what I was mentioning.

Is super poorly animated ? Yes

Is it compared to shows of the same format not really ?

Even if it's better by comparison (to shows I don't even watch), why would that have any bearing on me watching Super?


Because now you're informed you expectations are unrealistic
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Knowledge_King
08/20/17 6:44:52 PM
#31:


NurseRedHeart posted...
DBZ dudes were faster than light since Radditz


Untrue.

And um...you don't have to be light speed to hit someone who's light speed.
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mehmeh1
08/20/17 6:54:06 PM
#32:


MemeDaddy posted...
Funkydog posted...
Hit was tricking dypso into thinking he was using time skip when he wasn't and then using it when expected it was a trick etc. Dypso had hyper hearing to be able to hear their muscle movements apparently?

Dypso likely could tell goku would use it regardless.

Dunno bout omni king.

Yeah obviously he was tricking Dyspo, but that still means that Hit is faster than light.

DK9292 posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
DK9292 posted...
Because Toei care more about being entertaining than being consistent.

Check out Toyotoro's manga instead.


And toyotoro's manga so concerned bout being consistent it's boring in comparison.

It's annoying tbh

Depends on what you want out of the story.

The anime is flashy and all about fights. The manga is consistent and discusses what the anime glosses over.

If by flashy, you mean invisible explosions and speed lines then sure.

For an action series, it's pretty terribly animated.

come on, the animation has gotten WAY better since the second half of the u6 saga, with some exceptions (pretty much anything that has to do with kitano, and strangely enough last week's episode)
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