Board 8 > POLL: What do you think about the google memo?

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foolm0r0n 08/23/17 11:31:55 AM #101:	Metal_DK posted... When you combine that with the fact that dying alone is the number one fear our generation has Wait for real? That would explain some things but that's a weird stat --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:885302063] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Metal_DK posted...</cite> <quote>When you combine that with the fact that dying alone is the number one fear our generation has </quote> Wait for real? That would explain some things but that's a weird stat</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 08/23/17 11:32:15 AM #102:	Peace___Frog posted... Fwiw, anecdotally, my mother was plenty open to dating a man who made less than her. Many guys she went on dates with were, in her words, "visibly bothered" when she told them she had an mba. Very few men want to be with a woman who is more educated than they are. And @HanOfTheNekos can confirm that it's not because my mom is fugly. Misogynist men who are intimated by independent and educated women are likely to be just as much a reason why women don't procreate with men who earn less than they do as women tending to not be attracted to unmotivated losers with no ambition. Not saying its a factor, but a lot of it is also fear. Men at all age ranges throughout their lives USUALLY have been rejected by women of higher status. When I asked out women just 1 to 2 years older than me in my early 20s, i was rejected. 1-2 years younger? Still rejected often but much less so. Similarly for money this applies. Some of it is on men. I do think the conversation needs to be about women's expectations of men in this equality driven world though --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:885302073] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote>Fwiw, anecdotally, my mother was plenty open to dating a man who made less than her. Many guys she went on dates with were, in her words, "visibly bothered" when she told them she had an mba. Very few men want to be with a woman who is more educated than they are. And @HanOfTheNekos can confirm that it's not because my mom is fugly. Misogynist men who are intimated by independent and educated women are likely to be just as much a reason why women don't procreate with men who earn less than they do as women tending to not be attracted to unmotivated losers with no ambition.</quote> Not saying its a factor, but a lot of it is also fear. Men at all age ranges throughout their lives USUALLY have been rejected by women of higher status. When I asked out women just 1 to 2 years older than me in my early 20s, i was rejected. 1-2 years younger? Still rejected often but much less so. Similarly for money this applies. Some of it is on men. I do think the conversation needs to be about women's expectations of men in this equality driven world though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 08/23/17 11:33:16 AM #103:	foolm0r0n posted... Metal_DK posted... When you combine that with the fact that dying alone is the number one fear our generation has Wait for real? That would explain some things but that's a weird stat I mean its that vice article, but other places have echoed the same thing. It also was common amongst gen xers. --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:885302132] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Metal_DK posted...</cite> <quote>When you combine that with the fact that dying alone is the number one fear our generation has </quote> Wait for real? That would explain some things but that's a weird stat</quote> I mean its that vice article, but other places have echoed the same thing. It also was common amongst gen xers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/23/17 11:36:41 AM #104:	Metal_DK posted... The only way we can get rid of a patriarchy is if women approach men 50% of the time, date men younger than them 50% of the time, less educated, lesser earning, pay for them, etc. Welcome to third wave feminism --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:885302301] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Metal_DK posted...</cite> <quote>The only way we can get rid of a patriarchy is if women approach men 50% of the time, date men younger than them 50% of the time, less educated, lesser earning, pay for them, etc. </quote> Welcome to third wave feminism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 08/23/17 11:37:03 AM #105:	Metal_DK posted... When I asked out women just 1 to 2 years older than me in my early 20s, i was rejected. 1-2 years younger? Still rejected often but much less so. I feel like there's more to this story than you're bringing forward. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:885302317] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Metal_DK posted...</cite> <quote>When I asked out women just 1 to 2 years older than me in my early 20s, i was rejected. 1-2 years younger? Still rejected often but much less so.</quote> I feel like there's more to this story than you're bringing forward.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 08/23/17 11:38:28 AM #106:	I do think age is a weird sensitivity that a lot of people have to dating (again this is shared strongly by all genders). I make a ton of money and girls don't really care much about that, but if I reveal that I am 2-4 years younger than them they are often disgusted. Maybe it's because it's a difference between perception and reality but it still shouldn't be such a big deal. I just need to get on that Extha 18 year old level... --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:885302375] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote>I do think age is a weird sensitivity that a lot of people have to dating (again this is shared strongly by all genders). I make a ton of money and girls don't really care much about that, but if I reveal that I am 2-4 years younger than them they are often disgusted. Maybe it's because it's a difference between perception and reality but it still shouldn't be such a big deal. I just need to get on that Extha 18 year old level...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WhoopsyDaisy 08/23/17 11:42:52 AM #107:	foolm0r0n posted... WhoopsyDaisy posted... I'm answering a question from like 5 posts ago lol Without any of the context of the this whole topic and larger conversation that has been happening across many topics. Like, you should know what the rebuttal to your post is. what is the rebuttal to the fact that a researcher found a single non-gender variable that explains the entire gap in performance between the genders --- senorhousemouse "I feel like you can't be a real person" - OmarsComin <cite>WhoopsyDaisy posted [p:885302589] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WhoopsyDaisy posted...</cite> <quote>I'm answering a question from like 5 posts ago lol</quote> Without any of the context of the this whole topic and larger conversation that has been happening across many topics. Like, you should know what the rebuttal to your post is.</quote> what is the rebuttal to the fact that a researcher found a single non-gender variable that explains the entire gap in performance between the genders</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CelesMyUserName 08/23/17 11:43:08 AM #108:	I find that being a cute boy has attracted me to certain women my only post in this topic --- http://i.imgur.com/U7qSWmn.jpg something something hung something horse something <cite>CelesMyUserName posted [p:885302602] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote>I find that being a cute boy has attracted me to certain women my only post in this topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 08/23/17 11:45:07 AM #109:	Jakyl25 posted... Metal_DK posted... The only way we can get rid of a patriarchy is if women approach men 50% of the time, date men younger than them 50% of the time, less educated, lesser earning, pay for them, etc. Welcome to third wave feminism I mean even amongst millennials (where 3rd wave feminism is most prominent), you can't deny that women still seem to want the same thing every prior generation of women want. Men to be 1 to like 6 years older, make a similar amount if not more, similar education level or higher, and tall. Thats been the path to a positive life for a man since....a long ass time. Peace___Frog posted... Metal_DK posted... When I asked out women just 1 to 2 years older than me in my early 20s, i was rejected. 1-2 years younger? Still rejected often but much less so. I feel like there's more to this story than you're bringing forward. Nothing different really. Its different now that im in my late 20s/early 30s, but thats because men at my age are more established, and women in their early to mid 30s are more open to slightly younger i suppose (still not much younger but maybe a year or two). When you are in your early/mid 20s? Nah the vast majority of women want to date older men. --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:885302704] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Metal_DK posted...</cite> <quote>The only way we can get rid of a patriarchy is if women approach men 50% of the time, date men younger than them 50% of the time, less educated, lesser earning, pay for them, etc. </quote> Welcome to third wave feminism</quote> I mean even amongst millennials (where 3rd wave feminism is most prominent), you can't deny that women still seem to want the same thing every prior generation of women want. Men to be 1 to like 6 years older, make a similar amount if not more, similar education level or higher, and tall. Thats been the path to a positive life for a man since....a long ass time. <cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Metal_DK posted...</cite> <quote>When I asked out women just 1 to 2 years older than me in my early 20s, i was rejected. 1-2 years younger? Still rejected often but much less so.</quote> I feel like there's more to this story than you're bringing forward.</quote> Nothing different really. Its different now that im in my late 20s/early 30s, but thats because men at my age are more established, and women in their early to mid 30s are more open to slightly younger i suppose (still not much younger but maybe a year or two). When you are in your early/mid 20s? Nah the vast majority of women want to date older men.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 08/23/17 11:45:37 AM #110:	WhoopsyDaisy posted... what is the rebuttal to the fact that a researcher found a single non-gender variable that explains the entire gap in performance between the genders That it's still just explaining the "what" and not the "why", which is why it doesn't explain any of the contradictory examples --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:885302721] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>WhoopsyDaisy posted...</cite> <quote>what is the rebuttal to the fact that a researcher found a single non-gender variable that explains the entire gap in performance between the genders</quote> That it's still just explaining the "what" and not the "why", which is why it doesn't explain any of the contradictory examples</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/23/17 11:57:35 AM #111:	Metal_DK posted... I mean even amongst millennials (where 3rd wave feminism is most prominent), you can't deny that women still seem to want the same thing every prior generation of women want. Men to be 1 to like 6 years older, make a similar amount if not more, similar education level or higher, and tall. Thats been the path to a positive life for a man since....a long ass time. I think everyone probably wants similar education level. Do men want less educated women? The rest of your claims, for however much they still apply, are waning, and patriarchal society established the trends in the first place. Why historically have women wanted well to do men? Possibly because women weren't generally allowed to have successful careers until just a few generations ago maybe? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:885303322] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Metal_DK posted...</cite> <quote>I mean even amongst millennials (where 3rd wave feminism is most prominent), you can't deny that women still seem to want the same thing every prior generation of women want. Men to be 1 to like 6 years older, make a similar amount if not more, similar education level or higher, and tall. Thats been the path to a positive life for a man since....a long ass time.</quote> I think everyone probably wants similar education level. Do men want less educated women? The rest of your claims, for however much they still apply, are waning, and patriarchal society established the trends in the first place. Why historically have women wanted well to do men? Possibly because women weren't generally allowed to have successful careers until just a few generations ago maybe?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WhoopsyDaisy 08/23/17 12:04:42 PM #112:	foolm0r0n posted... WhoopsyDaisy posted... what is the rebuttal to the fact that a researcher found a single non-gender variable that explains the entire gap in performance between the genders That it's still just explaining the "what" and not the "why", which is why it doesn't explain any of the contradictory examples It actually kind of explains a lot of gender differences. It even explains why software used to have so many women: the price of failure was a lot higher and you couldn't just learn by experimentation. The price of mistakes is higher in teaching, nursing, and law. It explains why there are more male musicians than female musicians too; music involves sucking for a very very long time before you're at all listenable. And female singers are more common than other kinds of female musicians because basically all hearing adult humans have thousands of hours of singing practice, and it doesn't feel like failure when you're singing badly in the shower or whatever. --- senorhousemouse "I feel like you can't be a real person" - OmarsComin <cite>WhoopsyDaisy posted [p:885303680] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WhoopsyDaisy posted...</cite> <quote>what is the rebuttal to the fact that a researcher found a single non-gender variable that explains the entire gap in performance between the genders</quote> That it's still just explaining the "what" and not the "why", which is why it doesn't explain any of the contradictory examples</quote> It actually kind of explains a lot of gender differences. It even explains why software used to have so many women: the price of failure was a lot higher and you couldn't just learn by experimentation. The price of mistakes is higher in teaching, nursing, and law. It explains why there are more male musicians than female musicians too; music involves sucking for a very very long time before you're at all listenable. And female singers are more common than other kinds of female musicians because basically all hearing adult humans have thousands of hours of singing practice, and it doesn't feel like failure when you're singing badly in the shower or whatever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 08/23/17 12:34:54 PM #113:	Jakyl25 posted... I think everyone probably wants similar education level. Do men want less educated women? The rest of your claims, for however much they still apply, are waning, and patriarchal society established the trends in the first place. Why historically have women wanted well to do men? Possibly because women weren't generally allowed to have successful careers until just a few generations ago maybe? 1) I dont think they care as much. Its not a bad thing, but there is a lot more proof that men CAN find less educated women attractive 2) They arent really waning. You are seeing marriage rates plummet a lot faster than people accepting these new changes 3) This is pretty much the whole "once women have the good jobs" argument that 2nd wavers say and continues to be echoed. Its been more or less untrue, with most people going the single or being in a permanent "eh dating" stage at best rather than actually seeing a woman who makes upper 5 figs/low 100k range marry the man making 35k. Across all socioeconomic levels women still prefer a high earning man, men dont care nearly as much. No offense, but when somebody says the "once x gets y z will happen!" prediction I just view it as desire and not truth. "Once the government assumes the wealth it will distribute it evenly" "Once there are no regulations and low taxes on mega corps they will create jobs!" "Once women have the good jobs theyll marry the men with bad ones!" Human behavior hasn't really changed that much over generations. I don't even know if its possible to do so. --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:885305282] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>I think everyone probably wants similar education level. Do men want less educated women? The rest of your claims, for however much they still apply, are waning, and patriarchal society established the trends in the first place. Why historically have women wanted well to do men? Possibly because women weren't generally allowed to have successful careers until just a few generations ago maybe?</quote> 1) I dont think they care as much. Its not a bad thing, but there is a lot more proof that men CAN find less educated women attractive 2) They arent really waning. You are seeing marriage rates plummet a lot faster than people accepting these new changes 3) This is pretty much the whole "once women have the good jobs" argument that 2nd wavers say and continues to be echoed. Its been more or less untrue, with most people going the single or being in a permanent "eh dating" stage at best rather than actually seeing a woman who makes upper 5 figs/low 100k range marry the man making 35k. Across all socioeconomic levels women still prefer a high earning man, men dont care nearly as much. No offense, but when somebody says the "once x gets y z will happen!" prediction I just view it as desire and not truth. "Once the government assumes the wealth it will distribute it evenly" "Once there are no regulations and low taxes on mega corps they will create jobs!" "Once women have the good jobs theyll marry the men with bad ones!" Human behavior hasn't really changed that much over generations. I don't even know if its possible to do so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/23/17 12:48:16 PM #114:	Metal_DK posted... 2) They arent really waning. You are seeing marriage rates plummet a lot faster than people accepting these new changes Doesn't that kind of fly in the face of society's biggest fear being "dying alone"? If marriage rates are declining, maybe more people are realizing that your self worth should not come from an external source --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:885305984] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Metal_DK posted...</cite> <quote>2) They arent really waning. You are seeing marriage rates plummet a lot faster than people accepting these new changes</quote> Doesn't that kind of fly in the face of society's biggest fear being "dying alone"? If marriage rates are declining, maybe more people are realizing that your self worth should not come from an external source</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trdl23 08/23/17 12:50:24 PM #115:	WhoopsyDaisy posted... And female singers are more common than other kinds of female musicians because basically all hearing adult humans have thousands of hours of singing practice, and it doesn't feel like failure when you're singing badly in the shower or whatever. I'm a singer and what the flying fuck is this sentence --- E come vivo? Vivo! <cite>trdl23 posted [p:885306097] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>WhoopsyDaisy posted...</cite> <quote>And female singers are more common than other kinds of female musicians because basically all hearing adult humans have thousands of hours of singing practice, and it doesn't feel like failure when you're singing badly in the shower or whatever.</quote> I'm a singer and what the flying fuck is this sentence</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 08/23/17 12:51:32 PM #116:	WhoopsyDaisy posted... It actually kind of explains a lot of gender differences Doesn't explain India, or why many non-tech science fields like math have way stronger female representation. And still you're explaining only the what, not WHY women are so anti-snag. Is it the DNA? --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:885306153] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>WhoopsyDaisy posted...</cite> <quote>It actually kind of explains a lot of gender differences</quote> Doesn't explain India, or why many non-tech science fields like math have way stronger female representation. And still you're explaining only the what, not WHY women are so anti-snag. Is it the DNA?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 08/23/17 12:58:03 PM #117:	Jakyl25 posted... Metal_DK posted... 2) They arent really waning. You are seeing marriage rates plummet a lot faster than people accepting these new changes Doesn't that kind of fly in the face of society's biggest fear being "dying alone"? If marriage rates are declining, maybe more people are realizing that your self worth should not come from an external source No. Marriage rates are declining because people are angry and bitter at everyone due to their own unhappiness. We keep saying we want change but nobody really steps up and practices the change at their own personal level. Leftist women and men (which younger people are more likely to be, and 20/30 somethings are the ones most looking for love and not being alone) Women: "End gender roles, down with the patriarchy!" "The things i want most in a man is to be slightly older, ambitious, has a solid stable job, tall", aka a patriarchy. Men: "All women are beautiful, stop slut shaming/fat shaming! I want women to be in positions of power". Still wants a relatively thin woman who hasn't slept with 50 men, and (yes, i agree with some others who have said this here) he makes more money than (again i agree this is partially due to insecurity). I think the right wing is more often wrong than the left ideologically, but i do think the one area the right deserves praise is they seem to be at least more honest about what they want in the opposite sex, which is a very important aspect to society. Ghostbusters hate, gamergate, Trump himself, etc are all symptoms of the problem. They are the male side of this unhappiness/fear of dying alone/anger showing. Destructive and stupid imo, but when I say my piece it usually gets immediately disregarded. Thanks to everyone itt for having some pretty good discussion honestly. --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:885306474] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Metal_DK posted...</cite> <quote>2) They arent really waning. You are seeing marriage rates plummet a lot faster than people accepting these new changes</quote> Doesn't that kind of fly in the face of society's biggest fear being "dying alone"? If marriage rates are declining, maybe more people are realizing that your self worth should not come from an external source</quote> No. Marriage rates are declining because people are angry and bitter at everyone due to their own unhappiness. We keep saying we want change but nobody really steps up and practices the change at their own personal level. Leftist women and men (which younger people are more likely to be, and 20/30 somethings are the ones most looking for love and not being alone) Women: "End gender roles, down with the patriarchy!" "The things i want most in a man is to be slightly older, ambitious, has a solid stable job, tall", aka a patriarchy. Men: "All women are beautiful, stop slut shaming/fat shaming! I want women to be in positions of power". Still wants a relatively thin woman who hasn't slept with 50 men, and (yes, i agree with some others who have said this here) he makes more money than (again i agree this is partially due to insecurity). I think the right wing is more often wrong than the left ideologically, but i do think the one area the right deserves praise is they seem to be at least more honest about what they want in the opposite sex, which is a very important aspect to society. Ghostbusters hate, gamergate, Trump himself, etc are all symptoms of the problem. They are the male side of this unhappiness/fear of dying alone/anger showing. Destructive and stupid imo, but when I say my piece it usually gets immediately disregarded. Thanks to everyone itt for having some pretty good discussion honestly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 08/23/17 12:59:47 PM #118:	Marriage rates are declining because marriage was a massive bubble for so long. People aren't marrying people they don't want to anymore, so the rates are normalizing. Only when marriage and birth rates get so low that it starts messing up the economy/society like in Japan can you start blaming your precious casual revolution. --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:885306561] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote>Marriage rates are declining because marriage was a massive bubble for so long. People aren't marrying people they don't want to anymore, so the rates are normalizing. Only when marriage and birth rates get so low that it starts messing up the economy/society like in Japan can you start blaming your precious casual revolution.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 08/23/17 1:01:44 PM #119:	Metal_DK posted... Ghostbusters hate, gamergate, Trump himself, etc are all symptoms of the problem It's funny to blame all these on loser virgins but this stuff doesn't actually stop if the losers get laid. Just look at the ones on B8. They almost all get laid (sorry Wang), between occasionally and very often, and it doesn't change a single thing. There's also tons of loser virgins that don't fall for that stuff. --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:885306676] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Metal_DK posted...</cite> <quote>Ghostbusters hate, gamergate, Trump himself, etc are all symptoms of the problem</quote> It's funny to blame all these on loser virgins but this stuff doesn't actually stop if the losers get laid. Just look at the ones on B8. They almost all get laid (sorry Wang), between occasionally and very often, and it doesn't change a single thing. There's also tons of loser virgins that don't fall for that stuff.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/23/17 1:20:01 PM #120:	Metal_DK posted... Jakyl25 posted... Metal_DK posted... 2) They arent really waning. You are seeing marriage rates plummet a lot faster than people accepting these new changes Doesn't that kind of fly in the face of society's biggest fear being "dying alone"? If marriage rates are declining, maybe more people are realizing that your self worth should not come from an external source No. Marriage rates are declining because people are angry and bitter at everyone due to their own unhappiness. We keep saying we want change but nobody really steps up and practices the change at their own personal level. Leftist women and men (which younger people are more likely to be, and 20/30 somethings are the ones most looking for love and not being alone) Women: "End gender roles, down with the patriarchy!" "The things i want most in a man is to be slightly older, ambitious, has a solid stable job, tall", aka a patriarchy. Men: "All women are beautiful, stop slut shaming/fat shaming! I want women to be in positions of power". Still wants a relatively thin woman who hasn't slept with 50 men, and (yes, i agree with some others who have said this here) he makes more money than (again i agree this is partially due to insecurity). I think the right wing is more often wrong than the left ideologically, but i do think the one area the right deserves praise is they seem to be at least more honest about what they want in the opposite sex, which is a very important aspect to society. Ghostbusters hate, gamergate, Trump himself, etc are all symptoms of the problem. They are the male side of this unhappiness/fear of dying alone/anger showing. Destructive and stupid imo, but when I say my piece it usually gets immediately disregarded. Thanks to everyone itt for having some pretty good discussion honestly. So I'm reading this as "young leftists are gonna be perpetually unhappy because they're intellectually arguing against their instincts." Is that right? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:885307751] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Metal_DK posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Metal_DK posted...</cite> <quote>2) They arent really waning. You are seeing marriage rates plummet a lot faster than people accepting these new changes</quote> Doesn't that kind of fly in the face of society's biggest fear being "dying alone"? If marriage rates are declining, maybe more people are realizing that your self worth should not come from an external source</quote> No. Marriage rates are declining because people are angry and bitter at everyone due to their own unhappiness. We keep saying we want change but nobody really steps up and practices the change at their own personal level. Leftist women and men (which younger people are more likely to be, and 20/30 somethings are the ones most looking for love and not being alone) Women: "End gender roles, down with the patriarchy!" "The things i want most in a man is to be slightly older, ambitious, has a solid stable job, tall", aka a patriarchy. Men: "All women are beautiful, stop slut shaming/fat shaming! I want women to be in positions of power". Still wants a relatively thin woman who hasn't slept with 50 men, and (yes, i agree with some others who have said this here) he makes more money than (again i agree this is partially due to insecurity). I think the right wing is more often wrong than the left ideologically, but i do think the one area the right deserves praise is they seem to be at least more honest about what they want in the opposite sex, which is a very important aspect to society. Ghostbusters hate, gamergate, Trump himself, etc are all symptoms of the problem. They are the male side of this unhappiness/fear of dying alone/anger showing. Destructive and stupid imo, but when I say my piece it usually gets immediately disregarded. Thanks to everyone itt for having some pretty good discussion honestly.</quote> So I'm reading this as "young leftists are gonna be perpetually unhappy because they're intellectually arguing against their instincts." Is that right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 08/23/17 1:46:49 PM #121:	foolm0r0n posted... Marriage rates are declining because marriage was a massive bubble for so long. People aren't marrying people they don't want to anymore, so the rates are normalizing. They still want to. People just can't find what they are attracted to anymore. People fear dying alone. They clearly want to be with people. It's not just marriage, it's relationships in general throughout the west. foolm0r0n posted... It's funny to blame all these on loser virgins but this stuff doesn't actually stop if the losers get laid. Just look at the ones on B8. They almost all get laid (sorry Wang), between occasionally and very often, and it doesn't change a single thing. There's also tons of loser virgins that don't fall for that stuff. Most of them are lying about their success, and it's still infrequent. And also there are some who don't fall for it, but the number is getting smaller, partially because of social media. --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:885309285] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>Marriage rates are declining because marriage was a massive bubble for so long. People aren't marrying people they don't want to anymore, so the rates are normalizing.</quote> They still want to. People just can't find what they are attracted to anymore. People fear dying alone. They clearly want to be with people. It's not just marriage, it's relationships in general throughout the west. <cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>It's funny to blame all these on loser virgins but this stuff doesn't actually stop if the losers get laid. Just look at the ones on B8. They almost all get laid (sorry Wang), between occasionally and very often, and it doesn't change a single thing. There's also tons of loser virgins that don't fall for that stuff.</quote> Most of them are lying about their success, and it's still infrequent. And also there are some who don't fall for it, but the number is getting smaller, partially because of social media.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HashtagSEP 08/23/17 1:49:35 PM #122:	Metal_DK posted... Most of them are lying about their success, and it's still infrequent. "This doesn't fit my narrative so I'm just going to be a douche" Okay --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig <cite>HashtagSEP posted [p:885309465] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Metal_DK posted...</cite> <quote>Most of them are lying about their success, and it's still infrequent.</quote> "This doesn't fit my narrative so I'm just going to be a douche" Okay</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 08/23/17 1:57:04 PM #123:	Metal_DK posted... They still want to. People just can't find what they are attracted to anymore. People fear dying alone. They clearly want to be with people. It's not just marriage, it's relationships in general throughout the west. In my experience, people who want to be married found a way pretty fast. Even those who want a relationship find it pretty fast, unless they are SUPER undesirable. The major conflicts are people who want to get married or settle down, but not enough to give up their career goals. Yes they want to be with other people, but that's not the #1 priority like it was in the past. Is that a problem? Probably not, unless like I said it becomes like Japan. And this is a largely economic problem anyways. If you didn't have to choose between career and marriage/kids, there's no dilemma. --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:885309930] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Metal_DK posted...</cite> <quote>They still want to. People just can't find what they are attracted to anymore. People fear dying alone. They clearly want to be with people. It's not just marriage, it's relationships in general throughout the west.</quote> In my experience, people who want to be married found a way pretty fast. Even those who want a relationship find it pretty fast, unless they are SUPER undesirable. The major conflicts are people who want to get married or settle down, but not enough to give up their career goals. Yes they want to be with other people, but that's not the #1 priority like it was in the past. Is that a problem? Probably not, unless like I said it becomes like Japan. And this is a largely economic problem anyways. If you didn't have to choose between career and marriage/kids, there's no dilemma.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 08/23/17 1:57:37 PM #124:	HashtagSEP posted... Metal_DK posted... Most of them are lying about their success, and it's still infrequent. "This doesn't fit my narrative so I'm just going to be a douche" Okay People don't lie on the Internet about how cool they are/bench press/success? There are more lies on the Internet than truths and it's not even close --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:885309968] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>HashtagSEP posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Metal_DK posted...</cite> <quote>Most of them are lying about their success, and it's still infrequent.</quote> "This doesn't fit my narrative so I'm just going to be a douche" Okay</quote> People don't lie on the Internet about how cool they are/bench press/success? There are more lies on the Internet than truths and it's not even close</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 08/23/17 1:59:56 PM #125:	We're not talking about some dude on r/AskReddit trying to claim he's some casanova. We're talking about people we've known for a decade who we have on facebook and such. There's no lying. --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:885310125] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote>We're not talking about some dude on r/AskReddit trying to claim he's some casanova. We're talking about people we've known for a decade who we have on facebook and such. There's no lying.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HashtagSEP 08/23/17 2:00:04 PM #126:	Metal_DK posted... HashtagSEP posted... Metal_DK posted... Most of them are lying about their success, and it's still infrequent. "This doesn't fit my narrative so I'm just going to be a douche" Okay Pee don't lie on the Internet about how cool they are/bench press/success? There are more lies on the Internet than truths and it's not even close He gave a pretty direct example and you just sidestepped it by going "They're lying, I'm right." That's not exactly filling your argument with credibility. --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig <cite>HashtagSEP posted [p:885310134] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Metal_DK posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HashtagSEP posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Metal_DK posted...</cite> <quote>Most of them are lying about their success, and it's still infrequent.</quote> "This doesn't fit my narrative so I'm just going to be a douche" Okay</quote> Pee don't lie on the Internet about how cool they are/bench press/success? There are more lies on the Internet than truths and it's not even close</quote> He gave a pretty direct example and you just sidestepped it by going "They're lying, I'm right." That's not exactly filling your argument with credibility.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 08/23/17 2:06:18 PM #127:	foolm0r0n posted... We're not talking about some dude on r/AskReddit trying to claim he's some casanova. We're talking about people we've known for a decade who we have on facebook and such. There's no lying. Aren't a lot of people here friends with Ulti on facebook? --- Ulti was right <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:885310486] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>We're not talking about some dude on r/AskReddit trying to claim he's some casanova. We're talking about people we've known for a decade who we have on facebook and such. There's no lying.</quote> Aren't a lot of people here friends with Ulti on facebook?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 08/23/17 2:09:06 PM #128:	foolm0r0n posted... We're not talking about some dude on r/AskReddit trying to claim he's some casanova. We're talking about people we've known for a decade who we have on facebook and such. There's no lying. Oh cmon. You really think everyone on B8 is just straight up honest with their lives? You really think people are honest with their lives on fucking facebook? Facebook is everyones highlight reel. Nobody posts the vast majority of their life on it. Just the stuff that gets likes for their dopamine rush. Hence the "he was always so pleasant, how could he do this to himself" mentality a lot of times when shit happens. HashtagSEP posted... He gave a pretty direct example and you just sidestepped it by going "They're lying, I'm right." That's not exactly filling your argument with credibility. He said his example. Not the vast majority of how the internet works. foolm0r0n posted... In my experience, people who want to be married found a way pretty fast. Even those who want a relationship find it pretty fast, unless they are SUPER undesirable. This isn't really true anymore. Its why this type of stuff is the norm. https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3bj5yv/youre-single-because-there-arent-enough-men-253 http://elitedaily.com/dating/49-ways-were-never-dating/1028277/ https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/wd7vj9/why-arent-millennials-fucking http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/love-sex/why-millenials-stopped-having-sex-a7123736.html I mean this notion that everyone who wants a relationship except the super undesirable are in one is straight up false. People are more miserable than ever. Its not even just millennials. --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:885310656] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>We're not talking about some dude on r/AskReddit trying to claim he's some casanova. We're talking about people we've known for a decade who we have on facebook and such. There's no lying.</quote> Oh cmon. You really think everyone on B8 is just straight up honest with their lives? You really think people are honest with their lives on fucking facebook? Facebook is everyones highlight reel. Nobody posts the vast majority of their life on it. Just the stuff that gets likes for their dopamine rush. Hence the "he was always so pleasant, how could he do this to himself" mentality a lot of times when shit happens. <cite>HashtagSEP posted...</cite> <quote>He gave a pretty direct example and you just sidestepped it by going "They're lying, I'm right." That's not exactly filling your argument with credibility.</quote> He said his example. Not the vast majority of how the internet works. <cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>In my experience, people who want to be married found a way pretty fast. Even those who want a relationship find it pretty fast, unless they are SUPER undesirable.</quote> This isn't really true anymore. Its why this type of stuff is the norm. https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3bj5yv/youre-single-because-there-arent-enough-men-253 http://elitedaily.com/dating/49-ways-were-never-dating/1028277/ https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/wd7vj9/why-arent-millennials-fucking http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/love-sex/why-millenials-stopped-having-sex-a7123736.html I mean this notion that everyone who wants a relationship except the super undesirable are in one is straight up false. People are more miserable than ever. Its not even just millennials.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HashtagSEP 08/23/17 2:11:41 PM #129:	Metal_DK posted... Oh cmon. You really think everyone on B8 is just straight up honest with their lives? You really think people are honest with their lives on fucking facebook? Facebook is everyones highlight reel. Nobody posts the vast majority of their life on it. Just the stuff that gets likes for their dopamine rush. Hence the "he was always so pleasant, how could he do this to himself" mentality a lot of times when shit happens. So, yes. You're sticking with "This doesn't fit my narrative, so I'm going to be a douche and call B8 a bunch of liars" Cool --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig <cite>HashtagSEP posted [p:885310817] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Metal_DK posted...</cite> <quote>Oh cmon. You really think everyone on B8 is just straight up honest with their lives? You really think people are honest with their lives on fucking facebook? Facebook is everyones highlight reel. Nobody posts the vast majority of their life on it. Just the stuff that gets likes for their dopamine rush. Hence the "he was always so pleasant, how could he do this to himself" mentality a lot of times when shit happens.</quote> So, yes. You're sticking with "This doesn't fit my narrative, so I'm going to be a douche and call B8 a bunch of liars" Cool</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 08/23/17 2:12:28 PM #130:	http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/technology/study-reveals-almost-everybody-lies-6644960 https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2016/04/07/over-75-of-people-lie-on-social-media/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/9927749/Its-not-just-women-everyone-lies-on-Facebook.html https://www.dailydot.com/via/biggest-lies-everyone-tells-facebook/ --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:885310863] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote>http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/technology/study-reveals-almost-everybody-lies-6644960 https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2016/04/07/over-75-of-people-lie-on-social-media/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/9927749/Its-not-just-women-everyone-lies-on-Facebook.html https://www.dailydot.com/via/biggest-lies-everyone-tells-facebook/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 08/23/17 2:12:47 PM #131:	Taking the 2007 theories a little far I think --- Such a lust for revenge <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:885310886] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote>Taking the 2007 theories a little far I think</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HashtagSEP 08/23/17 2:13:11 PM #132:	If they're doing it enough to make up a "highlight reel" on Facebook, then that just kinda proves foolmo's example. --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig <cite>HashtagSEP posted [p:885310915] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote>If they're doing it enough to make up a "highlight reel" on Facebook, then that just kinda proves foolmo's example.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 08/23/17 2:16:07 PM #133:	doesnt prove it at all. People are trying to appear like they are something they arent. People are miserable because of this. --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:885311130] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote>doesnt prove it at all. People are trying to appear like they are something they arent. People are miserable because of this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 08/23/17 2:16:48 PM #134:	HashtagSEP posted... So, yes. You're sticking with "This doesn't fit my narrative, so I'm going to be a douche and call B8 a bunch of liars" Cool I'm going with what just about every study says. Not a narrative. Facts about social media and its effects on society. --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:885311181] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>HashtagSEP posted...</cite> <quote>So, yes. You're sticking with "This doesn't fit my narrative, so I'm going to be a douche and call B8 a bunch of liars" Cool</quote> I'm going with what just about every study says. Not a narrative. Facts about social media and its effects on society.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HashtagSEP 08/23/17 2:22:49 PM #135:	"Studies say people lie on the internet so they must all be lying" Isn't really compelling --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig <cite>HashtagSEP posted [p:885311583] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote>"Studies say people lie on the internet so they must all be lying" Isn't really compelling</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 08/23/17 2:23:52 PM #136:	http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4376992/Men-women-lie-se.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/29/lying-about-sex-common-men-and-women_n_3353446.html https://melmagazine.com/why-men-say-theyve-had-more-sex-partners-than-women-e1ff06aea902 https://www.bustle.com/articles/92645-men-lie-about-their-number-of-sex-partners-to-prove-theyre-masculine-new-study-says-plus --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:885311656] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4376992/Men-women-lie-se.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/29/lying-about-sex-common-men-and-women_n_3353446.html https://melmagazine.com/why-men-say-theyve-had-more-sex-partners-than-women-e1ff06aea902 https://www.bustle.com/articles/92645-men-lie-about-their-number-of-sex-partners-to-prove-theyre-masculine-new-study-says-plus</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 08/23/17 2:24:38 PM #137:	HashtagSEP posted... "Studies say people lie on the internet so they must all be lying" Isn't really compelling I never said all. But most people lie and glorify themselves on the internet yes, even just a little bit. --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:885311700] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>HashtagSEP posted...</cite> <quote>"Studies say people lie on the internet so they must all be lying" Isn't really compelling</quote> I never said all. But most people lie and glorify themselves on the internet yes, even just a little bit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HashtagSEP 08/23/17 2:25:38 PM #138:	Are you capable of actually having an original thought or do you just regurgitate links you find on Google --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig <cite>HashtagSEP posted [p:885311774] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote>Are you capable of actually having an original thought or do you just regurgitate links you find on Google</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 08/23/17 2:26:44 PM #139:	ive had more thoughts itt than you. This discussion was great until you came into it tbh. I get asked for sources so much that I have them. Yes. Sorry if that upsets you. When you go this route in the discussion i know you have nothing to offer anymore. --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:885311858] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote>ive had more thoughts itt than you. This discussion was great until you came into it tbh. I get asked for sources so much that I have them. Yes. Sorry if that upsets you. When you go this route in the discussion i know you have nothing to offer anymore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HashtagSEP 08/23/17 2:28:10 PM #140:	I'm simply questioning your argument based on the fact that you literally dismissed his example with "Most of them are lying because studies say most people on the internet lie." Like, you didn't even take two seconds to account for the people in his example, how we know each other, etc. You just went "Studies say people lie." Instead of taking time to actually think about it or debate it, you just said "You're all lying to each other." --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig <cite>HashtagSEP posted [p:885311949] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote>I'm simply questioning your argument based on the fact that you literally dismissed his example with "Most of them are lying because studies say most people on the internet lie." Like, you didn't even take two seconds to account for the people in his example, how we know each other, etc. You just went "Studies say people lie." Instead of taking time to actually think about it or debate it, you just said "You're all lying to each other."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/23/17 2:29:46 PM #141:	I'm kind of lost as to what core point we're even discussing anymore I feel like I'm lost in a loop of "people say they want this but deep down they want that so when they say they want this it makes them miserable and when they say they want that it makes them miserable and if everyone could just admit that the patriarchy worked we'd all be better off." --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:885312057] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote>I'm kind of lost as to what core point we're even discussing anymore I feel like I'm lost in a loop of "people say they want this but deep down they want that so when they say they want this it makes them miserable and when they say they want that it makes them miserable and if everyone could just admit that the patriarchy worked we'd all be better off."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 08/23/17 2:31:57 PM #142:	HashtagSEP posted... I'm simply questioning your argument based on the fact that you literally dismissed his example with "Most of them are lying because studies say most people on the internet lie." Like, you didn't even take two seconds to account for the people in his example, how we know each other, etc. You just went "Studies say people lie." Im not saying that their entire life theyve shown to you is a lie, sorry if you took it that way. And all he said were just "people im friends with on facebook from b8". Maybe people hes met irl once or twice. People lie on social media. Its just how it works. --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:885312190] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>HashtagSEP posted...</cite> <quote>I'm simply questioning your argument based on the fact that you literally dismissed his example with "Most of them are lying because studies say most people on the internet lie." Like, you didn't even take two seconds to account for the people in his example, how we know each other, etc. You just went "Studies say people lie."</quote> Im not saying that their entire life theyve shown to you is a lie, sorry if you took it that way. And all he said were just "people im friends with on facebook from b8". Maybe people hes met irl once or twice. People lie on social media. Its just how it works.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 08/23/17 2:34:28 PM #143:	Jakyl25 posted... I'm kind of lost as to what core point we're even discussing anymore I feel like I'm lost in a loop of "people say they want this but deep down they want that so when they say they want this it makes them miserable and when they say they want that it makes them miserable and if everyone could just admit that the patriarchy worked we'd all be better off." This is a really quick way of saying it, but what I'm saying is we can all say we are for equality and 50/50 (or whatever ratio is equality) ratios everywhere between races/genders/etc. But on the individual level people still want the same stuff everyone in the past has wanted. Its quite the conundrum. --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:885312340] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm kind of lost as to what core point we're even discussing anymore I feel like I'm lost in a loop of "people say they want this but deep down they want that so when they say they want this it makes them miserable and when they say they want that it makes them miserable and if everyone could just admit that the patriarchy worked we'd all be better off."</quote> This is a really quick way of saying it, but what I'm saying is we can all say we are for equality and 50/50 (or whatever ratio is equality) ratios everywhere between races/genders/etc. But on the individual level people still want the same stuff everyone in the past has wanted. Its quite the conundrum.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HashtagSEP 08/23/17 2:39:10 PM #144:	Metal_DK posted... And all he said were just "people im friends with on facebook from b8". Maybe people hes met irl once or twice. People lie on social media. Its just how it works. I just think it's not a very convincing argument to go "Your example fails because those people you know are lying to you because studies said so." --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig <cite>HashtagSEP posted [p:885312635] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Metal_DK posted...</cite> <quote>And all he said were just "people im friends with on facebook from b8". Maybe people hes met irl once or twice. People lie on social media. Its just how it works.</quote> I just think it's not a very convincing argument to go "Your example fails because those people you know are lying to you because studies said so."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 08/23/17 2:46:39 PM #145:	Fair enough. Maybe those specific people aren't lying at all on facebook. But studies do show people lie (or exaggerate if that is an easier word choice) on social media. Quite a bit in fact --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:885313128] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote>Fair enough. Maybe those specific people aren't lying at all on facebook. But studies do show people lie (or exaggerate if that is an easier word choice) on social media. Quite a bit in fact</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 08/23/17 3:15:37 PM #146:	Metal_DK posted... Oh cmon Ok you're trying to argue against a handful of anecdotes that I have undeniable evidence for, and posting dumb clickbait articles as evidence In post 117 you lamented being immediately disregarded and wanting to be taken seriously. Do you actually? Because this is how you get "immediately" disregarded --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:885314918] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Metal_DK posted...</cite> <quote>Oh cmon</quote> Ok you're trying to argue against a handful of anecdotes that I have undeniable evidence for, and posting dumb clickbait articles as evidence In post 117 you lamented being immediately disregarded and wanting to be taken seriously. Do you actually? Because this is how you get "immediately" disregarded</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 08/23/17 3:21:55 PM #147:	I guess were just going to have to agree to disagree. I think plenty of people lie and/or exaggerate themselves on social media, and its honestly the norm. Maybe your specific friends are some of the good ones fine, but its more than just "clickbait articles". And just because you lie on social media once doesnt mean you are some awful person. I never once said that. I'd be willing to bet that some of your FB friends/people on B8 have said things that are at least exaggerated to a large degree, yes. I have anecdotes of people misguiding myself and others (and themselves tbh), should my anecdotes be taken as seriously as yours? I mean people mentioned ulti itt and being facebook friends with him. Was he completely honest with what he presented about his life on a month by month or year by year basis? Maybe getting too individually personal with that question idk. Do you really think most people are completely honest on social media, even your specific friends? If so ya we probably aren't getting anywhere, even if we seemed to agree on quite a bit itt. --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:885315305] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote>I guess were just going to have to agree to disagree. I think plenty of people lie and/or exaggerate themselves on social media, and its honestly the norm. Maybe your specific friends are some of the good ones fine, but its more than just "clickbait articles". And just because you lie on social media once doesnt mean you are some awful person. I never once said that. I'd be willing to bet that some of your FB friends/people on B8 have said things that are at least exaggerated to a large degree, yes. I have anecdotes of people misguiding myself and others (and themselves tbh), should my anecdotes be taken as seriously as yours? I mean people mentioned ulti itt and being facebook friends with him. Was he completely honest with what he presented about his life on a month by month or year by year basis? Maybe getting too individually personal with that question idk. Do you really think most people are completely honest on social media, even your specific friends? If so ya we probably aren't getting anywhere, even if we seemed to agree on quite a bit itt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 08/23/17 3:27:13 PM #148:	I'm honestly surprised that everyone is arguing with Metal_DK on this point, and that he has to provide sources to prove that people lie and exaggerate on the internet. Or people are just trolling. --- Ulti was right <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:885315604] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote>I'm honestly surprised that everyone is arguing with Metal_DK on this point, and that he has to provide sources to prove that people lie and exaggerate on the internet. Or people are just trolling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 08/23/17 3:30:12 PM #149:	Metal_DK posted... I guess were just going to have to agree to disagree It's not an opinion --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:885315778] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Metal_DK posted...</cite> <quote>I guess were just going to have to agree to disagree</quote> It's not an opinion</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 08/23/17 3:30:46 PM #150:	I've slept with 400 people in the last hour. Now he has a source. The debate can continue! --- "Reading would be your friend." ~Dave Meltzer <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:885315809] in POLL: What... [t:75686591]...</cite> <quote>I've slept with 400 people in the last hour. Now he has a source. The debate can continue!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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