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Horus_Leftfield
08/18/17 11:53:48 AM
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Muffinz0rz
08/18/17 11:55:12 AM
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What do you mean it never ends? The video is one minute, so it ends after one minute.
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Simon_Petrikov
08/18/17 11:55:40 AM
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That's just terrible. I wish these guys wouldn't resist, for their own safety. I can't imagine what it's like being in that situation, but you can't give the cops a reason to do further damage.
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Schwarber
08/18/17 11:56:13 AM
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Nomadic View
08/18/17 11:56:47 AM
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Without even watching it I bet it was someone that didn't comply with lawful orders.
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Antifar
08/18/17 11:58:19 AM
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Nomadic View posted...
Without even watching it I bet it was someone that didn't comply with lawful orders.

Even if that were the case it doesn't justify what happens in the video.
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TheVipaGTS
08/18/17 11:59:01 AM
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Nomadic View posted...
Without even watching it I bet it was someone that didn't comply with lawful orders.


UFC style multi-punches were not warranted there and you fuckin know it...
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Horus_Leftfield
08/18/17 11:59:05 AM
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Simon_Petrikov posted...
That's just terrible. I wish these guys wouldn't resist, for their own safety. I can't imagine what it's like being in that situation, but you can't give the cops a reason to do further damage.

How do you know he resisted
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the_cajun88
08/18/17 12:00:11 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Nomadic View posted...
Without even watching it I bet it was someone that didn't comply with lawful orders.


UFC style multi-punches were not warranted there and you fuckin know it...


He doesn't even know what happened because he didn't watch the video.
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Questionmarktarius
08/18/17 12:02:16 PM
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Horus_Leftfield posted...
Simon_Petrikov posted...
That's just terrible. I wish these guys wouldn't resist, for their own safety. I can't imagine what it's like being in that situation, but you can't give the cops a reason to do further damage.

How do you know he resisted

How do you know he didn't?

All we have is sixty seconds of a brawl, with no context.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
08/18/17 12:02:50 PM
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Nomadic View posted...
Without even watching it I bet it was someone that didn't comply with lawful orders.


Video starts after hes on the ground resisting and is wrestling with cops. Cop gets in full mount because the guy twisted around, so instead of taking punches, he deals em because there ain't much else you can do in that position.

Don't fucking resist.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
08/18/17 12:05:17 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Nomadic View posted...
Without even watching it I bet it was someone that didn't comply with lawful orders.


UFC style multi-punches were not warranted there and you fuckin know it...


The cop was originally on his back trying to cuff, the man twisted around and put him in full mount, now the man has access to the officer's gun, is keeping his hands up and capable of swinging back, how do you handle that starting from there?
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Anarchy_Juiblex
08/18/17 12:07:29 PM
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Also, listen to the audio, the guys SO was telling him to listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOa7XHFNQzk

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Simon_Petrikov
08/18/17 12:15:28 PM
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Horus_Leftfield posted...
How do you know he resisted

He was flailing around. Partially due to how the were handling him, sure.
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OpheliaAdenade
08/18/17 12:16:54 PM
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Just doing whatever the police tell you to do. :u it is easier that way.
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BootyGif
08/18/17 12:19:27 PM
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this doesnt seem like brutality at all. this is a dude resisting arrest.
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untrustful
08/18/17 12:25:39 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Also, listen to the audio, the guys SO was telling him to listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOa7XHFNQzk

wtf are they doing to him!?

You just see this police officer punching this guy left and right like a cartoon. Throws like 7 punches after a brief period, then after another period another punch. This guy has been on the floor this entire time. Then the woman gets too close, is instructed to back away, and then is arrested/restrained and taken away like the man later.

I'm sorry, I don't see justification for throwing so many punches to the guy's face to restrain him.
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Horus_Leftfield
08/18/17 12:27:11 PM
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The woman was arrested later on for videotaping too
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That_Happened
08/18/17 12:27:12 PM
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untrustful posted...
I'm sorry, I don't see justification for throwing so many punches to the guy's face to restrain him.


They're probably trying to knock his ass out so they can put him in handcuffs. The fact is the longer the police are out there wrestling with this guy, the longer they're not focusing on their surroundings and can't protect each other. If you don't want an ass kicking, stop resisting. Get the shit sorted out later.
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OpheliaAdenade
08/18/17 12:28:25 PM
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Horus_Leftfield posted...
The woman was arrested later on for videotaping too


is she sharing a jail cell with xsquader?
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YourDrunkFather
08/18/17 12:29:01 PM
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What is the black object that gets pushed away?
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apocalyptic_4
08/18/17 12:30:25 PM
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Don't let this distract you from the fact Cjay sold out gamefaqs after swearing not to.

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Simon_Petrikov
08/18/17 12:31:06 PM
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That_Happened posted...
They're probably trying to knock his ass out so they can put him in handcuffs

That's silly.
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gatorsPENSbucs
08/18/17 12:31:25 PM
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UFC style punches? Lol.

It's awful what they did but it sucks that nobody has the camera rolling when the altercation starts.
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A5modeu5
08/18/17 12:31:53 PM
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YourDrunkFather posted...
What is the black object that gets pushed away?

looks like the officers gun. probably threw it away so that the dude cant grab it?
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That_Happened
08/18/17 12:32:18 PM
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Simon_Petrikov posted...
That_Happened posted...
They're probably trying to knock his ass out so they can put him in handcuffs

That's silly.


Why?
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Horus_Leftfield
08/18/17 12:34:00 PM
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I guess when the police have you on the ground and they're bashing your face in you're just supposed to lie still and take it. God help you if your flight instinct triggers and you kick your legs out, white people will say you're resisting and you deserved the beating you got.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
08/18/17 12:34:09 PM
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Dash cam footage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajCmexBsamQ


http://fox8.com/2017/08/12/euclid-police-release-statement-on-violent-arrest-captured-on-video-shared-on-social-media/

He posted bond on charges of driving under suspension and resisting arrest.
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That_Happened
08/18/17 12:37:23 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Dash cam footage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajCmexBsamQ


Hmmmm.....not seeing what started the altercation here. Do you see something I don't?

Horus_Leftfield posted...
I guess when the police have you on the ground and they're bashing your face in you're just supposed to lie still and take it. God help you if your flight instinct triggers and you kick your legs out, white people will say you're resisting and you deserved the beating you got.


Rather, if you don't resist (in most cases) you won't get to a point where the police are bashing your face in. This may be an exception.
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OpheliaAdenade
08/18/17 12:37:58 PM
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Horus_Leftfield posted...
I guess when the police have you on the ground and they're bashing your face in you're just supposed to lie still and take it. God help you if your flight instinct triggers and you kick your legs out, white people will say you're resisting and you deserved the beating you got.


well, I'm just trying to put it into perspective. If the guy was resisting to begin with, that puts the cop in a rough situation. :u The punching does seem kind of excessive though. You'd think there would be other ways to knock the guy out.
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Horus_Leftfield
08/18/17 12:39:00 PM
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How do you know he was resisting.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
08/18/17 12:41:20 PM
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That_Happened posted...
Do you see something I don't?


When he went to cuff him the man resisted and the cop took no shit immediately because when suspects escalate first, police die.

The man lived, anyone bitching can cry me a fucking river.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
08/18/17 12:42:15 PM
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Horus_Leftfield posted...
How do you know he was resisting.


My eyes, video evidence, the lamentations of his woman.
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That_Happened
08/18/17 12:42:50 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
That_Happened posted...
Do you see something I don't?


When he went to cuff him the man resisted and the cop took no shit immediately because when suspects escalate first, police die.

The man lived, anyone bitching can cry me a fucking river.


The cop said "face away from me, face away from me." The guy was turning around, and the officer shoved him into the car. Unless this guy had a weapon on him, it looks like the officer escalated the situation for no reason. After that the guy resisted, but I'm not sure the altercation even happens without that initial shove from the officer.

Police are supposed to deescalate situations, not make them worse.
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Mist_Turnips
08/18/17 12:45:04 PM
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Horus_Leftfield posted...
How do you know he was resisting.

That thing that happens in 95% of these scenarios?
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Ammonitida
08/18/17 12:45:09 PM
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It doesn't look like he resisted in the beginning. The cop appears to push him into the car.
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Ammonitida
08/18/17 12:45:54 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
How do you know he was resisting.


My eyes, video evidence, the lamentations of his woman.


My eyes are not seeing it.
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Questionmarktarius
08/18/17 12:46:07 PM
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OpheliaAdenade posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
I guess when the police have you on the ground and they're bashing your face in you're just supposed to lie still and take it. God help you if your flight instinct triggers and you kick your legs out, white people will say you're resisting and you deserved the beating you got.


well, I'm just trying to put it into perspective. If the guy was resisting to begin with, that puts the cop in a rough situation. :u The punching does seem kind of excessive though. You'd think there would be other ways to knock the guy out.

http://fox8.com/2017/08/12/euclid-police-release-statement-on-violent-arrest-captured-on-video-shared-on-social-media/
Hubbard was ordered out of the car told to face away from the police as he was taken into custody. Police say that Hubbard ignored that order and began to physically resist as the officer took him into custody.


Horus_Leftfield posted...
The woman was arrested later on for videotaping too

Watch the long video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOa7XHFNQzk

This same woman was getting in close, then backing off, then approaching again, all throughout the video. A cameraphone appearing isn't likely to be the reason why she was finally cuffed.
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Horus_Leftfield
08/18/17 12:46:27 PM
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Ammonitida
08/18/17 12:46:51 PM
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Horus_Leftfield posted...
I guess when the police have you on the ground and they're bashing your face in you're just supposed to lie still and take it. God help you if your flight instinct triggers and you kick your legs out, white people will say you're resisting and you deserved the beating you got.


I just love your racism there. Pathetic.
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NinjaWarrior455
08/18/17 12:46:52 PM
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The initial shove by the officer was unnecessary and only escalated the situation.
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TheVipaGTS
08/18/17 12:46:55 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
It doesn't look like he resisted in the beginning. The cop appears to push him into the car.

And bashing his head into the street. I'd be moving to try and defend myself too.
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Horus_Leftfield
08/18/17 12:47:23 PM
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Mist_Turnips posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
How do you know he was resisting.

That thing that happens in 95% of these scenarios?

Yeah if you take the cop's word for it lol.
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Horus_Leftfield
08/18/17 12:47:54 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
I guess when the police have you on the ground and they're bashing your face in you're just supposed to lie still and take it. God help you if your flight instinct triggers and you kick your legs out, white people will say you're resisting and you deserved the beating you got.


I just love your racism there. Pathetic.

Nothing racist about what I said.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
08/18/17 12:47:56 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
The cop appears to push him into the car.


First time seeing an arrest? Yes, they push and hold you against the car so you can't move.
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Ammonitida
08/18/17 12:48:23 PM
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NinjaWarrior455 posted...
The initial shove by the officer was unnecessary and only escalated the situation.


That's my take.
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CurzonDax
08/18/17 12:49:26 PM
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Glad we've settled on the Police can beat the shit out of you for no reason. So if I run from the police or argue does that justify them beating the shit out of me?
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Ammonitida
08/18/17 12:49:36 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Ammonitida posted...
The cop appears to push him into the car.


First time seeing an arrest? Yes, they push and hold you against the car so you can't move.


I've seen plenty. He's pushed into the car unprovoked and then the cop slings him around. This looks bad for the cop.
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That_Happened
08/18/17 12:51:21 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Ammonitida posted...
The cop appears to push him into the car.


First time seeing an arrest? Yes, they push and hold you against the car so you can't move.


I've seen plenty. He's pushed into the car unprovoked and then the cop slings him around. This looks bad for the cop.

Agreed.
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Horus_Leftfield
08/18/17 12:52:35 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Ammonitida posted...
The cop appears to push him into the car.


First time seeing an arrest? Yes, they push and hold you against the car so you can't move.

What probable cause was there for them to make an arrest. What crime did he commit that prompted them to tell him to get out of the car so they could throw him down and brat his face in.

Answer is none. Another racist ass traffic stop for no reason.
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