Current Events > This is why nerds shouldn't be able to help people.

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Me: I can't get this display to work on my new PC
Nerd: Give me your whole entire computer specs, the ram, the os and service pack version, what type of ram, mother board and pins on it, what cable you're using, what kind of ram, PSU, GPU, does your mobo have a PCI-E slot, also ram, monitor you're using, bias settings, please neatly organize it on an spreadsheet so I can better assist you. ALSO RAM


Me: Bro I don't think you need all that.
Nerd: Yes I do. I can't help you if I don't know those info.
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Would you prefer if they asked whether or not it was plugged in?
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FuriousFox posted...

Would you prefer if they asked whether or not it was plugged in?

Someone who actually knows what might be wrong wouldn't need specs.

FuriousFox posted...

Would you prefer if they asked whether or not it was plugged in?

So it's either ask really dumb obvious questions to make the user feel stupid or ask extremely needless nerd questions the user don't understand to make him feel stupid. Gotcha.
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fake vegy topic
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>has no fucking clue how to get his display to work
>turns down advice from someone trying to help
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Veggeta_MAX posted...

bias settings

lol
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LordFarquad1312 posted...

I hope he didn't help you in the end.

I got him all the info. He never responded back. I'm still the evil person I know.
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They need as much information as they can get so that they can narrow down the problem. Saying your display isn't working, doesn't really help and without all this other information, it would take them longer to help fix your problem as they would have to troubleshoot a ton of shit.

Bok_Choi posted...

>has no fucking clue how to get his display to work
>turns down advice from someone trying to help

You're missing the point completely and I am not surprised.
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CommonStar posted...

They need as much information as they can get so that they can narrow down the problem. Saying your display isn't working, doesn't really help and without all this other information, it would take them longer to help fix your problem as they would have to troubleshoot a ton of shit.

Pretty sure you don't need RAM information for a display error.
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Veggeta_MAX posted...

CommonStar posted...

They need as much information as they can get so that they can narrow down the problem. Saying your display isn't working, doesn't really help and without all this other information, it would take them longer to help fix your problem as they would have to troubleshoot a ton of shit.

Pretty sure you don't need RAM information for a display error.

Uh...yes you do. Sometimes faulty ram can cause multiple issues which can result in display issues.

Veggeta_MAX posted...

Pretty sure you don't need RAM information for a display error.

More sure than the person you asked for help?
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CommonStar posted...

Uh...yes you do. Sometimes faulty ram can cause multiple issues which can result in display issues.

If it was a RAM issue I'm pretty sure it would have caused all other noticeable issues before a display issue. I mean I'm sure you know that too.
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Bok_Choi posted...

Veggeta_MAX posted...

Pretty sure you don't need RAM information for a display error.

More sure than the person you asked for help?

If my front lights on my car stopped working are you going to ask for the specs of my engine?
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So RAM = a car's engine now?
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Bok_Choi posted...

So RAM = a car's engine now?

Veggeta_MAX posted...

You're missing the point completely and I am not surprised.

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Although the information in OP is very excessive, an IT professional would definitely need some information about steps taken.
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Veggeta_MAX posted...

Bok_Choi posted...

So RAM = a car's engine now?

Veggeta_MAX posted...

You're missing the point completely and I am not surprised.

You're the one making false equivalencies here, not me

As I understand RAM can have adverse effects on your comp performance and in my experience helping people and listening to people with computer things often RAM is the problem that clashes with the other parts of the build or was installed incorrectly or is faulty

If I needed help and was asking someone for it, I don't think I would consider a far reach that RAM might be the issue (but I'm smart and I know he's probably just trying to get a see for my build even if, as Vermander said, the OP's requested information was probably excessive)
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Let me explain:

The point of the topic isn't literally or even technically about the products I'm talking. Those are just examples of something small, basic and minor that needs a little support. Enter the nerd; who replies with the guise of "I'm trying to help" but the truth is, much like every nerd tries to do with no self awareness, he's just trying to find a way to look superior asking for needless and extreme information to sound smart when in fact the nerd himself don't really care.
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Something tells me this friend isn't real and that you're just amalgamating different people you dislike on the internet lmfao

but on the off-chance you're being serious right now

Well maybe you should learn to frame and convey yourself better and more accurately, TC, instead of sounding like a sorry ingrate.
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I don't understand, you asked someone for help but don't want to give information??

Why would you do that?
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Veggeta_MAX posted...

bias settings

Mine's set to anti-skub
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Bok_Choi posted...

Something tells me this friend isn't real and that you're just amalgamating different people you dislike on the internet lmfao

"It's not real because I haven't seen or experienced it yet"

Bok_Choi posted...

Well maybe you should learn to frame and convey yourself better and more accurately, TC, instead of sounding like a sorry ingrate.

Why do nerds take everything so literally and technically? Why is my fault you understood me wrong? You need to sop taking everything face value. That's also a very bad nerd trait, it's not wonder this topic hit your nerve.
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untrustful posted...

I don't understand, you asked someone for help but don't want to give information??

Why would you do that?

Read post 21
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Bok_Choi posted...

fake vegy topic

I've been in the business for 5 years and never asked someone for all that info for a display problem nor have ever heard anyone do so. Whoever is helping you probably doesn't like you.

Also, you're pretty sure of yourself for a guy who can't figure out the problem.
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Veggeta_MAX posted...

Why is my fault you understood me wrong?

"why is it my fault that i conveyed myself a certain way causing not only bok_Choi but others in the topic to presume im an ungrateful brat"
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voldothegr8 posted...

Also, you're pretty sure of yourself for a guy who can't figure the problem out.

I am. Would you think going to ask for help would be the absolute last thing to do? The last thing you want is some dude whose just trying to throw around their ego under the guise of true hero.
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Bok_Choi posted...

Veggeta_MAX posted...

Why is my fault you understood me wrong?

"why is it my fault that i conveyed myself a certain way causing not only bok_Choi but others in the topic to presume im an ungrateful brat"

"Others agrees with me so you are wrong!"

Another nerd trait. I hope someday you can do things without needing validation from others.
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Veggeta_MAX posted...

Another nerd trait. I hope someday you can do things without needing validation from others.

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Why doesn't context matter to you?
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Mystery_Mission posted...

Bok_Choi posted...

fake vegy topic

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That's why you should always have your specs in your sig. That ain't so laughable now, huh? :P

*trollface.jpg*

Vermander posted...

Although the information in OP is very excessive, an IT professional would definitely need some information about steps taken.

OP wrote the post like he was exaggerating what he was asked so I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't ask for all of that. I mean, does anyone even ask if your motherboard has a PCI-e slot nowadays? I thought that was pretty standard.
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SGT_Conti posted...

Vermander posted...

Although the information in OP is very excessive, an IT professional would definitely need some information about steps taken.

OP wrote the post like he was exaggerating what he was asked so I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't ask for all of that. I mean, does anyone even ask if your motherboard has a PCI-e slot nowadays? I thought that was pretty standard.

i mean one can only guess who tc's contemporaries are, if they even exist
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SGT_Conti posted...

Vermander posted...

Although the information in OP is very excessive, an IT professional would definitely need some information about steps taken.

OP wrote the post like he was exaggerating what he was asked so I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't ask for all of that. I mean, does anyone even ask if your motherboard has a PCI-e slot nowadays? I thought that was pretty standard.

It was exaggerative lmao if you can't tell that then I dunno what to tell you.
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Bok_Choi posted...

SGT_Conti posted...

Vermander posted...

Although the information in OP is very excessive, an IT professional would definitely need some information about steps taken.

OP wrote the post like he was exaggerating what he was asked so I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't ask for all of that. I mean, does anyone even ask if your motherboard has a PCI-e slot nowadays? I thought that was pretty standard.

i mean one can only guess who tc's contemporaries are, if they even exist

I have already done explained to you the point of my topic, why you still confused?
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While I kind of almost sort of maybe understand the point you're getting at TC, the truth is the best way to assess most PC issues is to get as much base amount of information as possible to whittle down the potential scenarios that could be causing the issue, as computers are very complicated and stuff. Also because generally users are dumbasses who don't do even the most basic of troubleshooting themselves before deciding that their computer is broken and needs a rocket scientist's insight to repair.

Like if you work in IT at all, you'd be painfully familiar with the kind of customer who thinks he's above the basic troubleshooting, but also gets annoyed when you start talking technical at him, like you're supposed to be a fucking mindreader who understands his particular level of savvy. (Spoilers: that's nearly every customer)
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Veggeta_MAX posted...

Bok_Choi posted...

Veggeta_MAX posted...

Pretty sure you don't need RAM information for a display error.

More sure than the person you asked for help?

If my front lights on my car stopped working are you going to ask for the specs of my engine?

They probably would ask for make model and year. Which will reliably get the specs of your engine

Checkmate inferior vegy
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pinky0926 posted...

While I kind of almost sort of maybe understand the point you're getting at TC, the truth is the best way to assess most PC issues is to get as much base amount of information as possible to whittle down the potential scenarios that could be causing the issue, as computers are very complicated and stuff. Also because generally users are dumbasses who don't do even the most basic of troubleshooting themselves before deciding that their computer is broken and needs a rocket scientist's insight to repair.

Like if you work in IT at all, you'd be painfully familiar with the kind of customer who thinks he's above the basic troubleshooting, but also gets annoyed when you start talking technical at him, like you're supposed to be a fucking mindreader who understands his particular level of savvy. (Spoilers: that's nearly every customer)

It's just being tactful. You can get people to fix easy and simple obvious things without making them feel like a dumbass even if they are one.
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Veggeta_MAX posted...

It's just being tactful. You can get people to fix easy and simple obvious things without making them feel like a dumbass even if they are one.

The very fact that PC literate nerds tend to be the opposite of tactful but also the only people skilled to do that particular work is the very reason I have a job. Takes a special kind of brain to be able to intimately understand SQL, and not usually the kind of brain that is good at picking up on social etiquette.

Also, if you spend a lot of time fixing PCs, you give up on being tactful and start focusing on being efficient. And the most efficient way to tackle those kinds of problems is to eliminate as many questions as possible.
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Bok_Choi posted...

Mystery_Mission posted...

Bok_Choi posted...

fake vegy topic

Whose alt is this?
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pinky0926 posted...

The very fact that PC literate nerds tend to be the opposite of tactful but also the only people skilled to do that particular work is the very reason I have a job. Takes a special kind of brain to be able to intimately understand SQL, and not usually the kind of brain that is good at picking up on social etiquette.

Also, if you spend a lot of time fixing PCs, you give up on being tactful and start focusing on being efficient. And the most efficient way to tackle those kinds of problems is to eliminate as many questions as possible.

That's basically Linus Torvalds to a T.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/01/linus-torvalds-on-why-he-isnt-nice-i-dont-care-about-you/

Lol.

He does play to that stereotype a bit though. He's not really a bad guy at all. He just cares about his profession.