Current Events > Weird how Trump leads a party that intentionally disenfranchises minorities

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Horus_Leftfield
08/16/17 12:12:45 PM
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And he also refuses to blame white supremacists too

Strange coincidence
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Questionmarktarius
08/16/17 12:15:05 PM
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intentionally disenfranchises minorities

[citation needed]
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Hinakuluiau
08/16/17 12:16:17 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
intentionally disenfranchises minorities

[citation needed]

The multiple cases of voter disenfranchisement being struck down, with key Republicans admitting they are trying to prevent minorities from voting, don't count?
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Caution999
08/16/17 12:17:16 PM
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Except he condemned them.

You are fake news.
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muchdran
08/16/17 12:18:17 PM
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Liberal nonsense
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Horus_Leftfield
08/16/17 12:19:42 PM
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Caution999 posted...
Except he condemned them.

You are fake news.


Lol, suuuuure
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Antifar
08/16/17 12:20:54 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
intentionally disenfranchises minorities

[citation needed]

This happened yesterday

https://twitter.com/_justinlevitt_/status/897579759667879936
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Caution999
08/16/17 12:22:25 PM
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The alt-left are starting a new Civil War over the statue of figures from the Civil War.

WEW LAD
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Horus_Leftfield
08/16/17 12:28:13 PM
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Caution999 posted...
The alt-left are starting a new Civil War over the statue of figures from the Civil War.

WEW LAD

At least you'll be able to tell war stories to your grandkids about all the days you spent trolling for Trump on a video game forum. You must be so proud.
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Questionmarktarius
08/16/17 12:31:10 PM
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Antifar posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
intentionally disenfranchises minorities

[citation needed]

This happened yesterday

https://twitter.com/_justinlevitt_/status/897579759667879936

Gerrymandering doesn't actually deny anyone the right to vote, regardless of how flagrant it is.
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Antifar
08/16/17 12:32:57 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Gerrymandering doesn't actually deny anyone the right to vote, regardless of how flagrant it is.

Last year:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/29/the-smoking-gun-proving-north-carolina-republicans-tried-to-disenfranchise-black-voters/?utm_term=.1d12b485133a
In particular, the court found that North Carolina lawmakers requested data on racial differences in voting behaviors in the state. "This data showed that African Americans disproportionately lacked the most common kind of photo ID, those issued by the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV)," the judges wrote.

So the legislators made it so that the only acceptable forms of voter identification were the ones disproportionately used by white people. "With race data in hand, the legislature amended the bill to exclude many of the alternative photo IDs used by African Americans," the judges wrote. "The bill retained only the kinds of IDs that white North Carolinians were more likely to possess."

The data also showed that black voters were more likely to make use of early voting — particularly the first seven days out of North Carolina's 17-day voting period. So lawmakers eliminated these seven days of voting. "After receipt of this racial data, the General Assembly amended the bill to eliminate the first week of early voting, shortening the total early voting period from seventeen to ten days," the court found.

Most strikingly, the judges point to a "smoking gun" in North Carolina's justification for the law, proving discriminatory intent. The state argued in court that "counties with Sunday voting in 2014 were disproportionately black" and "disproportionately Democratic," and said it did away with Sunday voting as a result.

"Thus, in what comes as close to a smoking gun as we are likely to see in modern times, the State’s very justification for a challenged statute hinges explicitly on race — specifically its concern that African Americans, who had overwhelmingly voted for Democrats, had too much access to the franchise," the judges write in their decision.

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Horus_Leftfield
08/16/17 12:33:23 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Antifar posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
intentionally disenfranchises minorities

[citation needed]

This happened yesterday

https://twitter.com/_justinlevitt_/status/897579759667879936

Gerrymandering doesn't actually deny anyone the right to vote, regardless of how flagrant it is.

No, it just cuts out the middleman by denying people representation for their views full stop.
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prince_leo
08/16/17 12:34:29 PM
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Caution999 posted...
The alt-left are starting a new Civil War over the statue of figures from the Civil War.

WEW LAD

that's really not a good defense. if it truly is about "just some statues" then getting rid of them is obviously a nonissue, especially when compared to civil war 2.0
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Questionmarktarius
08/16/17 12:35:58 PM
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Horus_Leftfield posted...
No, it just cuts out the middleman by denying people representation for their views full stop.

How, exactly?
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TheKingOf-Kings
08/16/17 12:37:46 PM
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Horus_Leftfield posted...
Caution999 posted...
The alt-left are starting a new Civil War over the statue of figures from the Civil War.

WEW LAD

At least you'll be able to tell war stories to your grandkids about all the days you spent trolling for Trump on a video game forum. You must be so proud.


C'mon now. He isn't gonna have any kids.
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cjsdowg
08/16/17 12:38:03 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...

How, exactly?


Do you know what Gerrymandering is ?
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Horus_Leftfield
08/16/17 12:39:02 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
No, it just cuts out the middleman by denying people representation for their views full stop.

How, exactly?

What you're fighting for isn't good and you aren't good for doing it.

Don't continue.
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Antifar
08/16/17 12:40:31 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
How, exactly?

Here's what the court said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/us/texas-districts-unconstitutional.html
In a 107-page ruling — part of a long-running legal battle — a three-judge panel of the United States District Court for the Western District of Texas found that District 27, which includes Corpus Christi, had been drawn to deny voters in a heavily Hispanic county “their opportunity to elect a candidate of their choice,” and that race had been the primary factor in drawing District 35, a narrow strip that stretches from San Antonio to Austin.

The judges, however, upheld the validity of other districts, including ones that had been challenged in Houston and in the Dallas/Fort Worth area.

The panel, in San Antonio, ruled that state officials had adopted the map in question in 2013 as part of a deliberate strategy to maintain “discrimination or unconstitutional effects” while preventing voters from challenging those effects. If Texas legislators do not begin a redistricting process, the court will hold a hearing on Sept. 5 to discuss remedies.

Ken Paxton, the Texas attorney general, said in a statement that his office would ask the United States Supreme Court to hear the case. Opponents of the districts that the court upheld could also seek Supreme Court review.

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Caution999
08/16/17 12:41:45 PM
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TheKingOf-Kings posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
Caution999 posted...
The alt-left are starting a new Civil War over the statue of figures from the Civil War.

WEW LAD

At least you'll be able to tell war stories to your grandkids about all the days you spent trolling for Trump on a video game forum. You must be so proud.


C'mon now. He isn't gonna have any kids.



"I can't contribute anything to the topic at hand, so I'll attack his character! ZING!"
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Questionmarktarius
08/16/17 12:43:38 PM
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Antifar posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
How, exactly?

Here's what the court said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/us/texas-districts-unconstitutional.html
In a 107-page ruling — part of a long-running legal battle — a three-judge panel of the United States District Court for the Western District of Texas found that District 27, which includes Corpus Christi, had been drawn to deny voters in a heavily Hispanic county “their opportunity to elect a candidate of their choice,” and that race had been the primary factor in drawing District 35, a narrow strip that stretches from San Antonio to Austin.

The judges, however, upheld the validity of other districts, including ones that had been challenged in Houston and in the Dallas/Fort Worth area.

The panel, in San Antonio, ruled that state officials had adopted the map in question in 2013 as part of a deliberate strategy to maintain “discrimination or unconstitutional effects” while preventing voters from challenging those effects. If Texas legislators do not begin a redistricting process, the court will hold a hearing on Sept. 5 to discuss remedies.

Ken Paxton, the Texas attorney general, said in a statement that his office would ask the United States Supreme Court to hear the case. Opponents of the districts that the court upheld could also seek Supreme Court review.

And look what happens when we "fix" that:
http://www.newsweek.com/how-gerrymandering-black-districts-backfired-south-498036

If "fair representation" involves blatant segregation, under the assumption that an ethnic demographic will vote nigh-identically, who's the real racists here?
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Horus_Leftfield
08/16/17 12:45:29 PM
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Caution999 posted...
TheKingOf-Kings posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
Caution999 posted...
The alt-left are starting a new Civil War over the statue of figures from the Civil War.

WEW LAD

At least you'll be able to tell war stories to your grandkids about all the days you spent trolling for Trump on a video game forum. You must be so proud.


C'mon now. He isn't gonna have any kids.



"I can't contribute anything to the topic at hand, so I'll attack his character! ZING!"

He wasn't attacking your character. He was only mocking you.

There is actually no need to attack your character. We can already see it for what it is.
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Caution999
08/16/17 12:46:30 PM
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I have you tagged as fake news now ;)
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Questionmarktarius
08/16/17 12:46:39 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Jesus fuck what is wrong with you?

Is racial segregation bad, or not?
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Horus_Leftfield
08/16/17 12:50:34 PM
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Institutional racism is what the GOP is best at these days. It's why they can't bring themselves to admit it exists.
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Questionmarktarius
08/16/17 12:55:46 PM
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Horus_Leftfield posted...
Institutional racism is what the GOP is best at these days.

If you want a better example, I just gave you that newsweek article. "Malicious compliance" at its best.

Yet still obnoxious gerrymandering no more disenfranchises minorities than the electoral system disenfranchises republican voters in California, or the entire two-party system disfranchises the Green Party. The right to vote still fully exists.
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Caution999
08/16/17 12:58:19 PM
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Horus_Leftfield posted...
Institutional racism is what the GOP is best at these days. It's why they can't bring themselves to admit it exists.



Congrats. The MSM has brain-washed you into thinking the other side is run by Nazis.
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Horus_Leftfield
08/16/17 4:03:48 PM
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Caution999 posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
Institutional racism is what the GOP is best at these days. It's why they can't bring themselves to admit it exists.



Congrats. The MSM has brain-washed you into thinking the other side is run by Nazis.


w/e dude.
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Horus_Leftfield
08/17/17 12:05:54 PM
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I'm sick of this shit.
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