Current Events > Charlottesville counter protesters did have permits.

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CurzonDax
08/16/17 11:10:02 AM
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You had a group on the other side that came charging in without a permit and they were very, very violent.

False. Both sides applied for permits and both were approved.
Kessler's (http://www.nbc29.com/story/36115819/judge-grants-injunction-jason-kessler-can-have-unite-the-right-rally-at-emancipation-park) was initially revoked because he wanted the Rally at Emancipation Park which the city believed was too small for the expected crowd size. They asked him to move it to McIntyre Park but he refused. A judge later re-approved his permit.

The counter-protest was organized by the Peoples Action for Racial Justice. They were granted two permits for two parks. McGuffey Park and Justice Park. (http://www.nbc29.com/story/36099395/city-of-charlottesville-grants-two-permits-for-counterprotests-of-unite-the-right)

All of those people — Excuse me — I’ve condemned neo-Nazis. I’ve condemned many different groups. But not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists by any stretch. Those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue, Robert E. Lee.


Absolutely false.
The Unite The Right rally was organized by Jason Kessler (https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/jason-kessler), a white supremacist.
And it replicated a similar event held in May which included Richard Spencer to protest the removal of Confederate Statues and the renaming of the park. He also described that event as a white nationalist rally.(http://archive.is/p72Qx)

The sole purpose of the Unite The Right rally was a neo-Nazi rally organized by neo-Nazis.
Trump lied (he claims he watched these events "very closely") on these key points. It's undeniable that he is defending the White Nationalists and White Supremacists.

There's still a lot of debate about whether this was a Nazi event. David Duke and Richard Spencer were booked to speak.
They've also held several events in Charlottesville in the past year. One event in May was called "Save Lee and Jackson" and you can see how the organizers and attendees viewed it under the twitter hashtag #saveleeandjackson.

Here's a short promo video of that event from the Alt-Right. (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVFhC4kuYDU
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Here's Richard Spencer's speech at that event. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM_5ZteCIaY&feature=youtu.be)

Millenials are arising in a period when no one at that dinner table are connected to the second world war. That might seem meaningless but it is absolutely profound and meaningful. It means that they are able to get out from under this massive black cloud, this massive anvil of guilt that has been weighing down out people. This great black cloud that hangs over us called Hitler or Auschwits or the Holocaust or what have you. We don't need to question the accuracy of the history. Because at the end of the day, facts don't matter.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-syXRg6TRE

Here's Domigo, Spencer and Duke's speeches from the same event.

This is more than just a Confederate monument. This is images of white people. This is images of white heroes, images of white warriors, that are being torn down to attack and demoralize our people. Make us think that we don't have a future. They don't want us to have a future. They want to destroy our future. They want to replace us with some sort of mixed muddy people that would just be easy consumers that won't stand up for themselves.

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NeonOctopus
08/16/17 11:10:50 AM
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iPhone_7
08/16/17 11:13:55 AM
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A big basket of deplorables.
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CurzonDax
08/16/17 11:14:32 AM
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lol, wut? That was so random.
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luigi13579
08/16/17 11:19:56 AM
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I didn't know that about the permits.

On the other point, it doesn't take a genius to work out that the protest wasn't just about the statue, given the fucking Nazi flags and shit. If it was one or two people, maybe, but with so many people, that clearly wasn't the case. I don't see how anyone could pretend otherwise.
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That_Happened
08/16/17 11:21:02 AM
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Where did the altercations take place? Because it doesn't seem like they had permits for the same parks.
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iPhone_7
08/16/17 11:24:27 AM
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It was an event organized by white supremacists and named The Unite The Right Rally. of course it wasn't just random people protesting in support of a Confederate statue like some are trying to claim.
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somethingtofear
08/16/17 11:47:20 AM
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I normally wouldn't be such a skeptic about the details but I had looked all over for information in regards to any permits for the counter protesters and gave up yesterday. Everywhere else has a copy of the permits for the white supremacy group (including this source), but this is the first instance I've seen of them having one and then there is no transcript of it.
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