Current Events > Would you hire a known nazi for a job if he was the best candidate?

(+) Yeah! (+)

And yes. This isn't 1984 and we are not thought police. If his views don't impact his work at all, it shouldn't matter. People trying to justify "no" by saying "a nazi is never the best candidate" or whatever are missing the point.
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Coolppl Owns posted...

EndOfDiscOne posted...

Axiom posted...

Why would any employer hire a walking liability

I mean they do it all the time. Imagine if people stopped hiring pregnant women or people with chronic health problems (which is illegal). They're going to cost the employer in the future. That's a liability.

are you comparing pregnant women to nazis brah

lo fucking l

I'm talking about liabilities objectively, but get offended.
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EndOfDiscOne posted...

If his views don't impact his work at all,

By virtue of being public, they impact those he has to work with.
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The usual suspects saying yes.

Hell no. Nazis don't deserve jobs.
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"Separate the art from the artist".

If he is truly the most qualified at the job, then I would hire him. But, I'd make it very clear that any sort of HR violation would result in immediate expulsion.
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Nope.

If he or she is publicly known as a Nazi, then most if not all of his coworkers wouldn't want to deal with him or her because as a general rule people don't like Nazis. At the very least it would create a very uncomfortable environment to work in. That's not even getting into my personal second-guessing of any judgement decisions this Nazi would make regarding the work of fellow employees.

Second, I'm a public accountant. Most people hired have to deal with clients every day. Do you know what would be a fantastic way to lose a client's business? Having them find out that you put a publicly known Nazi on their job. Sweet, there goes a $100k of work.

Finally, the company itself would just look bad if they found out that it was knowingly employing a publicly known Nazi. Because again, people don't like Nazis.

I know that some people are saying that "the best qualified person wouldn't be a Nazi" is a cop-out answer, but honestly, it isn't. Nazism has such an incredibly strong, negative connotation with the average person that the simply being public about sharing Nazi beliefs is going to taint everything that that person does. It does in fact make them less-qualified.
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No. Purely on the virtue of being a nazi and a known one makes him negatively affecting my other employees. My ability to separate the work from the views is irrelevant to people's ability to do so, and I'd rather not have to spend my time defending a known Nazi.
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In a situation where it doesn't affect work and he isn't doing anything criminal, of course.
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Like, hiring managers already don't hire people if they feel like they wouldn't get along with the team dynamic. Is this really any different?

Getting a job has never been purely about skill
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a known nazi cannot be the best candidate for a job.

a former nazi, sure, I'd be willing to discuss things if I could be convinced they no longer believed that shit.
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ChromaticAngel posted...

a known nazi cannot be the best candidate for a job.

what if the job is "Head Nazi?"
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CrimsonRage posted...

People voting yes clearly don't plan on having lawyers or accountants in their workplace. :p

Not sure what this means since I'm a CPA at an accounting firm. I don't of any nazis here but we are all good at putting personal feelings aside to work professionally.
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EndOfDiscOne posted...

CrimsonRage posted...

People voting yes clearly don't plan on having lawyers or accountants in their workplace. :p

Not sure what this means since I'm a CPA at an accounting firm. I don't of any nazis here but we are all good at putting personal feelings aside to work professionally.

accounting firms especially big 4 and national are all about diversity and inclusivity so i highly doubt they would hire a known fucking nazi
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LittleScootaIoo posted...

glitteringfairy posted...

Nepsy posted...

Yes, it's better than hiring based on a diversity quota.

This

Though if the company has the cash money to take risks on underqualification, more power to them I guess.

Hiring this guy can potentially cost them a lot more.
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MattSFfrd posted...

ChromaticAngel posted...

a known nazi cannot be the best candidate for a job.

what if the job is "Head Nazi?"

I would not manage or work in such a business that had that kind of position.
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EndOfDiscOne posted...

CrimsonRage posted...

People voting yes clearly don't plan on having lawyers or accountants in their workplace. :p

Not sure what this means since I'm a CPA at an accounting firm. I don't of any nazis here but we are all good at putting personal feelings aside to work professionally.

So am I. Just ignoring the coworker piece. How would your client's feel if they new the CPA assigned to their business was a publicly known Nazi? Do you think they would be okay with that?

My client base consists predominately of casinos. They aren't a bunch I would ever describe as PC, yet I'm pretty confident that they would throw quite a fit if they found out their in-charge or even just the audit staff was a Nazi.
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OP, thats just typical antifa logic, you are racist so i'm going to discriminate against you, HAH. I'm not from the US, but from what i saw that shit yesterday was funny af.
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CrimsonRage posted...

EndOfDiscOne posted...

CrimsonRage posted...

People voting yes clearly don't plan on having lawyers or accountants in their workplace. :p

Not sure what this means since I'm a CPA at an accounting firm. I don't of any nazis here but we are all good at putting personal feelings aside to work professionally.

Lawyer and Accountant are common professions for Jews. So people saying yes to hiring Nazis are potentially losing out having the best lawyers and accountants working for them.

Oh, I wasn't even aware of that stereotype. There aren't a whole lot of Jewish people where I live.
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CrimsonRage posted...

glitteringfairy posted...

Nepsy posted...

Yes, it's better than hiring based on a diversity quota.

Would you hire a BLM member if he was the best person for the job and didn't talk about BLM at work, @glitteringfairy? :v

Yes. If I'm running a business I want the best workers I can get
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Anyone running a company knows the cohesiveness of coworkers is one of if not the most important aspects to the business. True, I suppose it would depend ON the actual company, but if it was known someone was a nazi then I can't imagine the vast majority of his coworkers being able to coexist with him. So no, absolutely not
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glitteringfairy posted...

Nepsy posted...

Yes, it's better than hiring based on a diversity quota.

Would that same nazi turn around and hire a black man or a jew that was the best man for the job?
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EndOfDiscOne posted...

CrimsonRage posted...

EndOfDiscOne posted...

CrimsonRage posted...

People voting yes clearly don't plan on having lawyers or accountants in their workplace. :p

Not sure what this means since I'm a CPA at an accounting firm. I don't of any nazis here but we are all good at putting personal feelings aside to work professionally.

Lawyer and Accountant are common professions for Jews. So people saying yes to hiring Nazis are potentially losing out having the best lawyers and accountants working for them.

Oh, I wasn't even aware of that stereotype. There aren't a whole lot of Jewish people where I live.

It's an old stereotype that isn't very applicable anymore. Like I don't think I have a single Jewish coworker in our audit department and I'm not aware of any in our tax department either.
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Zodd3224 posted...

glitteringfairy posted...

Nepsy posted...

Yes, it's better than hiring based on a diversity quota.

Would that same nazi turn around and hire a black man or a jew that was the best man for the job?

@Nepsy
@glitteringfairy
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In the scenario given where I'm the hiring manager, I wouldn't. I'm not going to make that sort of decision for someone else's company.

If it was my own company, I might if I thought I could make some good money by taking advantage of the fact that his beliefs make him mostly unemployable and I could hire him for well below what someone else with his qualifications is worth. It would also depends on other things like how public facing the job is, etc.
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Seeing as how being a nazi is especially bad here

Hell no
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Am I building a holiday camp? If so, yes.
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Bumble_ posted...

Yeah... that took like 10 minutes. Good job.

Yes, the entirely expected: "Well, they weren't true Nazi!1" - defence. Well, here's a quote from wikipedia on the subject.

Operation Paperclip was a secret program of the Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency (JIOA) in which more than 1,600 German scientists, engineers, and technicians, such as Wernher von Braun and his V-2 rocket team, were recruited in post-Nazi Germany and taken to the U.S. for government employment, at the end of World War II; many were members and some were leaders of the Nazi Party

Yes, I'm sure they were all completely innocent in truth, and were just working on that stuff out of fear. Tell yourself that all you like. Me? I'm not quite as deluded as that :).

To be fair, people didn't join the Nazi party because they sympathised with the ideology, they did it to gain power and influence. Sympathising with Nazism now is synonym of racism, but back then it was the most logical choice if you were a white scientist and wanted to get research done. If anything, they're guilty of the bystander effect.

Besides, it's not like the Allies had the moral high-ground either. Sure, there weren't any death camps over here, but eugenics were really popular pretty much everywhere.
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ChromaticAngel posted...

MattSFfrd posted...

ChromaticAngel posted...

a known nazi cannot be the best candidate for a job.

what if the job is "Head Nazi?"

I would not manage or work in such a business that had that kind of position.

it must be awful to go through life with no sense of humor.
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Why wouldn't I?
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JohnLennon6 posted...

Why wouldn't I?

Well I mean I wouldn't expect you to turn down your brethren, Hoth.
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